outandabout

I just read the book "The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse." I think I started it years ago and never finished it but I was perusing my bookcase for something to read and pulled this book out. If you ever have a smidgen of any doubt that TWI was abusive, read this book. It screamed TWI all over it even though no actual groups were mentioned. I felt like writing notes all over it and highlighting half of it. The book describes various forms of spiritual abuse and why people don't recognize it, put up with it and can't or won't leave it. It also give advice on how to get over it once you do get out. Now I pulled out "Toxic Faith" and I'm reading that one. This too I bought long ago and never finished. What surprised me was how TWI stuff still affects me somewhat even though it's been over 16 years since I got out. Also how TWI is not alone in its abusive tactics.

Yeah, and to think we were expected to give our whole lives to the "ministry" and we were volunteers. At least at work they pay me. (and I don't get yelled at)

I understand why you feel that way. We have the right to feel our feelings. In TWI we were supposed to "renew our minds" to any emotions that didn't jive with what our leaders thought we SHOULD be feeling. Why did God create us with emotions if we're not supposed to feel them?

I learned how to file in the Way Corps.

Maybe she really did. I still believe there are "devil spirits".

The movie "Bobby" portrays a lost of what it was like in 1968. I do remember that video. It is weird that that year had so much upheaval and stuff going on.

I don't believe that Jesus is God. But I do believe he is our Lord, and in TWI we missed that boat quite a bit. We were told not to talk to Jesus or pray to him, but how can we have a relationship with him if we can't talk to him or pray to him? I now believe that it's ok to do that in order to develop that relationship.

I went to Netflix to request it too.

Looks like pets are "allowed" now.

"Wake me up when it's time to turn the page".

Yeah, and from what I've read, those pictures that were drawn thousands of years ago of half-men, half-animal creatures (i.e. sphinx) weren't just pictures! They were what happened as a result of the genetic engineering that the Nephilim (the offspring of fallen angels and humans) were messing around with.

A REALLY good book about this subject is "The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse" by corps grad Patrick Heron. I bought it off of Amazon.

People have been on staff for 26 years??? Yeee Gawd

Seems pretty top heavy to me. Seems like TWI has become an organizations whose sole purpose is to be an organization and siphon the ABS from the believers to support those at the "top." Seems to me all that weight at the top will cause it to topple one day.

I have read the narcissists are very rarely cured.

How about "Give cheerfully" in order to get blessed but being told that "God won't spit in your direction" unless you give more than 10%. And many of us didn't really have the means to give 10% or more, thus making "cheerful giving" an impossibility.

I'm full of wonder that some people are still in TWI.

Nato, Loved your posts. You are really funny!

I prefer a red robust whine myself - goes good with spaghetti. Then again, of one eats fish, a nice white whine hits the spot.

So what's wrong with whining?

Yeah, I'm sure they get so much traffic that they really need all that legal mumbo jumbo. Like anybody would care enough to steal something off that site

My dog likes carrots. He's not a vegetarian, though.

They need a colon cleanse.

They would have to change everything that's wrong with TWI to have good Way Prod. Then they would have to let the musicians write their own stuff and stay out of it. Good music is written by inspiration and TWI leaves no room it because they have to control everybody, including musicians. (if there are any left, seems like all they've got now is robotic singing ladies.) You can't force music to be written. And there has to be something to write about. Which there isn't. Unless you write something like: I'm so glad to be a robot for The Way. They tell me how to live each day. They tell me what to read and teach. They tell me how to brush my teeth. They tell me where to eat and sleep. They treat me like a little sheep. Oh I'm so glad to be a robot for The Way. There's nothing left for me to say. La dee da dee da......