outandabout

You should write a book.

When The Tribulations happens, maybe they'll blame a lot of what happens on "climate change".

. I think Martindale was possessed.

Beuuuuuutuful Ohiiiiiiooooooooo (I guess you'd have to have been there)

I ended up in Mississippi.

And when you don't "grow spiritually" enough it's your fault.

Sorry you suffered so much. You are right, it was a pattern of abuse, but we were not allowed to honestly express ourselves, so, like you, I thought it was just me that deserved to be yelled at, judged, ordered around, controlled, never appreciated, used by upper leadership and more. Once we were out, from other Ex-Wayfers and Greasespot, that is when we learned we were not alone and it was IT, not us.

way productions - what it is not. Too bad for them.

What's going to happen with RFR croaks? I wonder if they even have any plans for that.

HQ must be hard to exit for the people who have lived there for years and years working for slave wages. Without means to travel and get settled somewhere it would be difficult to leave. I can see people "on the field" leaving. Why they would even still be involved is a mystery to me. I feel sorry for them, the drudgery of getting your house presentable for fellowship or having to drag yourself to meetings and have little time for the things of life, i.e. laundry, grocery shopping, driving kids around, etc. I was talking on the phone to a former WOW sister that I hadn't seen for 30 years or so and she said she went to a Way fellowship and it was "dead".

Distract from the Word? The ugliness of the dresses distracts from the Word! Besides the lyrics are BORING. It's more interesting to think about how ugly the dresses are.

And if you go directly to TWI's actual website, it is BORING. Way Productions is BORING, women in baggy navy blue dresses singing tuneless songs with boring lyrics..... that's all that's left of the music.

That's because they didn't care about babies. They were a hindrance to "Moving the Word."

The thing I've been realizing about TWI is that there is no going beyond the Advanced Class. That was considered the pinnacle of knowledge and spiritual growth. The Corps had classes also in residence but they still mirrored the basic doctrines of TWI. There is nothing new - the same doctrine over and over again. A formed WOW sister of mine that I recently got in touch with said she went to a TWI fellowship recently and it was "dead." I've been reading lots of books by biblical scholars we never heard of in TWI and amazingly, they know a lot! People who have researched the Word for years of their lives that we can learn from. There is no end to what we can learn from God's Word from all the scholars that have researched it and written what they've learned. I'm really happy that now I can learn from who I want to learn from. We were taught that only we had the Truth, and all others teachers and writers were to be avoided lest our minds be tainted with their "wrong doctrine".

This video was shown on "The Soup". The commentator said "This is God. Stop, please stop."

"Just empties floating by" - that's a compassionate way to look at people.

Been a long time since we heard any news about TWI. Must be nothing's changed. Same old stagnant pond I guess.

I do recall not being served ice cream somewhere (was I Lightbearers? not sure) because the guy said "We don't serve cult members" or something like that. Must not have been that traumatic since I've only just thought of it just now.

I was in Yellow Springs after I graduated from Antioch College and I was still hanging around since I had no direction. I was living in a house with a bunch of other people and I met a college WOW and went to Twig. We were close enough to HQ to go there. I met Donnie Fugit and other people. We went to the Sunday night services in the BRC where Dr. Wierwille taught. I had been in many other spiritual things that were contrary to God's Word - things that God strongly disapproves of as recorded in the OT, another spiritual realm other than the true God's. I perceived a totally different spirituality there. I could tell the difference. Then I went to a BOW WOW in West Virginia, even though it was for WOWs. And I experienced the same thing spiritually. I felt that God was bringing me out of the darkness that I thought was light. So I guess that was it. Then I took the class in Columbus and I was in it for good, or so I thought until the late 80's when TWI was so far from when I was first in and all I wanted was out.

Love you too, excie. Onioneater, hello nice to see you!

Thanks!

I miss excathedra. She was a big part of this site. I hope she comes back, and I hope she is ok.

It doesn't come up very much, but I do sometimes mention that I lived in a certain part of the country and then I say that I was in a biblical organization and it was sort of a missionary thing. I also have something of a knowledge of biblical things at work and I say I was in a bible college for a couple of years and I learned a lot there, but I was in the Corps so I can say that. It's been since 1988 that I left, so it's not much of an issue. The longer you are out, the less it comes up.

I just bought the book from Amazon and started reading it last night. It is always very interesting to read another account of the experience of a TWI "member" (since there were no members were there?) I enjoyed The Cult That Snapped and Losing the Way and I find this book very interesting as well. His descriptions of his thought processes at the time remind me of my own state of mind when I was in. It's a little disconcerting in a way but still fascinating.

TWI taught about the different administrations and that different things applied to each one. We were taught that we are in the grace adminstration and the OT law no longer applied. Yet, we were taught to tithe and more even though there is no tithe in the grace period. It was justified in CSBP by saying we should go over and above what the OT requires. (If that's the case, should we be sacrificing horses and cats and dogs as well as sheep and rams? - over and above, you know) They contradicted their own administration teaching in order to rake in the dough. It has been said that at the time of CSBP was written, VP was confronted about not imposing the tithe on the believers but did not heed the exhortation. Thus, we in the grace administratin were put in bondage under the law, which Galations says we shouldn't be.