Al Poole

..... no regard for what works.... HEY "your honor" How bout we buy all the houses in YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD and let them move in with you and all yours??? Then you can render aid, comfort, your property, wife and children to rehabilitate them.... IDIOTS

Yeah yeah... "keep it in your pants" What he didn't say was... "cause I want it all for myself" Ya know. musta been a geographical/leadership thing... cause in Detroit 78-79... it wasn't happening.

Jeff is definitly in Issaqah Wa. I KNOW he is one of the good guys. If you want to contact him it would be easy enough. Google him. You'll probably get his web site. Zabasearch him and you'll get his address and phone number. If you want to go on about what he did 20 years ago... Linda is right... not the place. I will presume you have changed tremendously in the past 20 years. Allow that he has too.

I hope "they" can save the building. If not I hope someone salvages the wood interiors. Incredible oak doors and trim. And of course the pipe organ. It would be a real waste if they just turn the dozers loose.

I have no beef with anyone choosing to do what is right in their own eyes... to buy (at wally world) or not to buy ???? that is the question... is it nobler... yada yada yada ... will withholding my 100 to 200 a month spent there really cause them a problem??? Or just cost me more money elsewhere ??? Sure, if we could get 1000's and 1000's of people/consumers to go elsewhere... wally'd change his stripes they're not gonna shop elsewhere and wally's not gonna change.. to each his own. I've never been a "union man" type, but in this case I'd like to see some of the benefits a union could bring to those employees, with out the downside of unions. Keep the whole thing in more balance, with out exploiting the situation. Seems like somebody is always getting shafted somewhere... owners, employees, or consumers, rarely is it owners though. They simply raise prices to consumers. Derailing the thread... My personal vindetta/cause/boycott.... I won't go to the movies that feature actors who: actively/vocally/$$$ support political agendas I disagree with. Just my personal thing. I don't go to see them, 1st run, second run, rent the video, watch it when it comes on TV. Like you don't shop wally.... I don't give them any of my $$$$ either. It's the same... we're voting with our pocket book. (I have a new one now... NO CITGO gasoline. Not like that's hard here in Tulsa, citgo pulled outta here a couple of years ago. But I'll run out before I buy their products knowingly.) That is a fantastic thing about our country we do have choice!!!

Vegan... and you know this how??? Has anyone, PBS?, targeted Target??? anyone gone after them??? Did you know Target is owned by a French company? Did you also know they banned the Salvation Army from their entry last year.... no bell ringers!! I don't know that Target is more ethical than wally. None of us know. And ethics are a matter of interpretation anyway. It ....ed me off that they banned the SA but I still bought some stuff there. I admire those who can afford to boycott wally, and I admire the ones that can't afford to, but do, even more. Belle... my my aren't we condecending... In case you didn't know... there are all kinds of people in this world, many are doing well to keep it together at all. What they look like isn't high on their list of concerns. All is not sweetness and light for most people in this world. You should be ashamed.

SaFari... doesn't matter... it's all a game... even if they change the laws they'll find an excuse to let them out. There's no resolve. These are sick sick sick people. There's only one solution and there's no resolve to implement it.

Abigal I too shop wally, no problem, do they treat their employees "fair" probably not. Can I stretch my dollar shopping there? ABSOLUTELY. Is it ethical to do what they do??? I dunno... If the "slave class" were eliminated, wages and ownership would balance out. We continually hear about the shrinking middle class. It's shrinking because immigrants that lived in a cardboard and tin shack in their country can come here and live in a real apartment with electricty, plumbing, heat and AC. Work less eat better, and "free" health care. What we consider poor, and under-privledged, they consider middle class. They even have a car!! Unheard of in their country except wealthy people. SO business owners can get workers for 5.00 an hour who are happy to get it. It pulls down all wages. Thus shrinking middle class. Conversly if it took $10 an hour to get burger flippers you would see an across the board increase in wages from there up. The balance would come when prices got too high that people started their own businesses because they could do it better cheaper . Mc D couldn't charge 10 for a burger because the guy who has managed his McD store for 8 years would go across the street and sell a better burger with better service for $7.50!! Thus a whole new layer of business and middle class. Supply and demand, competition, will equate to balance in the economy. Balance in owner earnings and wages. Back on topic.. cheap drugs.. ALL FOR IT!!

Watered Garden, Abigail, GREAT POSTS... very honest, good insight too. Want to "fix" wally world? Close the borders, evict the illegals. When you don't have people willing to work for nothing, the employers, every one of them, will HAVE to pay more. They will have to keep offering more $ till someone steps up and says YEAH I'll work for that. Will it "put companies out of business" . Some... but someone will step up and take their place. Cause as long as people want to improve their situation they will work to do it. For someone else, or start their own business. But as long as there are people willing to work for $5.00 an hour, and live 10 to an apartment, AND THINK THE'VE "ARRIVED" you'll see no changes. Close the borders, evict the illegals, there'll be no need for a federally mandated "minimum wage". You'll see $10, $15 $20 an hour in no time. The owners will have to settle for making 500 k this year rather than 900k or 1M !!! But do you think they're gonna close???? NO WAY>

Accusations... sad that society has come to such a point of frustration with the system that retribution is meated out on the strength of accusations alone. False ones are made every day and innocent lives / property destroyed. However... the "innocent" boyfriend... how was he in a position to have the accusation made? Were they living together outside of wedlock? Was he sleeping over regularly?? I think scripture says something about "abstaining from (every?) apperance of evil". I'm not trying to be sanctimonious(sp?) but there is something to be said for living a "moral" lifestyle. Even so being a nation based on "the rule of law" we simply cannot allow this kind of vigalanteism to run rampant. Oh no no no! So... how bout this... when we have ironclad proof, and conviction of said pervert... we mete out apropriate punishment. (Sorry I'm burned out on rehab for these offenders). Let's get retribution. No, 15 years out in 5 back molesting and raping. H ll NO. Lets take em out and shoot em, hang em, personally I like the African way... let's stone em! NO WAIT... I know... instead of turning these freaks loose after 5 yrs served how bout we hold the parlole boards accountable if they repeat??? Yeah, rapist serves 3 yrs on 10... gets out, rapes again... sue the parole board... and the prison shrink... YEAH that's it!!! Nawwwwwwww we gotta rehabilitate the poor unfortunate guy... after all it really ain't his fault!

Geez... Yo Dot... howYOUdoin...... One of the posts here reminds me of a girl in my corpse... her brother Br*ce was in your corpse 11th... maybe you remember her if you think about it. She was blonde, wonderfully beautiful in the wholesome healthy girl next door way. Engaged to a 13th guy who went on to become a rc with the initials J*** K****.... Anyway the strangest thing happened, she went out on lightbearers our "senior" year and came back a complete emotional wreck. Had a TOTAL mental breakdown. Was taken away to P** L***'s apartment and sorta held incommunicado. My (then) wife Linda had been one of her closest friends and wasn't allowed anywhere near her. Sadly I don't remember what became of her. I think she was "taken away" by her brother B*uce. The profile fits. Do you know about this event.... (And to those who don't know me This is not a request for sordid details )

Okay...... so what's the new clue??

Man..... Evan.... What some people won't do to get a remodel.... !!! But seriously just how much did you have to pay that home school kid to get that lady to hit your house!! DANG!!! Just kidding I hope you know!!! Seen any good egg tosses lately??????? LOL!!!

Kellie, you were fun to look at but you really were in over your head... Taylor... please choose something that works for you.... PLEASE! Kat ... WOW Chris......... shave that stupid zig zag Elliot....... who woulda thunk!! Paris .... really

This poster isn't Freud.... it's FRAUD! There's a certain xway that comes arouund every so often with a story. Newest incarnation. Go back and reread the very first post in the first version. But hey... look at all the rsponses!!! You're getting better.

Rhino, No offense was taken by any means, YES I was truly fortunate to have had a father like mine, and regret to this day that I didn't enjoy his company more in my adult years. But he moved from his home upon being drafted in 42 and never returned.... he understood and never ever made us feel bad that we "left home". I guess I have the "look at the bright side attitude" because a) dwelling on any other aspect does me NO good and b) I ALWAYS kept an eye on what's really going on here. Oddly enough Jeff Mohn taught me that very early on. So I never swallowed... ALL of the twi lie. "In spite of not because of" emmmm I think that's a matter of perspective, yes for some people, no for others. I know I had inate talents developed in the way corps. You could say were the talents developed or did you just get confidece because you were allowed to use those talents... who knows??? how many agngels CAN dance on the head of a pin???? You categorically say "the way corps was a bad thing to do". ... emmm maybe for you. But there may be those that disagree. It's always relative. You make very valid points about an organization "we built". Yet at the same time I reallly don't remember being promised anything by twi in a phyisical/financial reward sense. I posted long ago on some topic that the "doers" rise to the top no matter what endeavor they undertake. I've seen it time and again. Some people are achievers. It's what they are gonna do, no matter what. Others are for whatever reasons gonna be foot soldiers so to speak... and many of those will complain that they aren't generals, all the while not willing to do what it takes to be a general. That's just the way life and people is/are. I also believe many capable achievers were shelved / discouraged in twi, very unfortunate. BUT it's people. My wife and I attended a very large church here in Tulsa that was built by an individual. The church is "under" his ministry name... "----- ------ ministries" . It took about 5 services before I couldn't stand it anymore. Talk about deja vu!!!! He and his "group" did everything, every service. And this is a BIG BIG church. It's just the way things are. It's corporate, it's churches, it's clubs, organizations. Name it! Yet in all this achievers still manage to rise to the top.... if they're discouraged in one place they find another to excel... or start their own. Lots of companies exist today because the founders said okay ... do it your way.... I'll go elsewhere, see ya at the buy out. Twi was an experience, good for some, horrendus for others. Like I said before... in x# of years we' ll be dust.... then what...... "what... me worry??" Alfred E. Newman

Rhino.... ......long time since I posted in this topic.... been outta town..... Do I know you from our past lives??? Yes I am "Bill's brother" we are so definitly NOT cut from the same cloth other than having the same parents. And absolutely positively YES!! our father was a truely great man, cut from the old school cloth and passed down those old values. One of which was certainly that: ...while you may not be able to control WHAT exactly comes your way ... you are in total control of WHAT you do with it... Just one of many things he taught us. In retro I realize that these lessons, while not quoted scripturally WERE quite scripturally based. Probably why when things got so wierd in twi I was able to cope. While at the same time NOT sucking down the crap they were trying to feed us. I WAS FORTUNATE! in that regard. (Don't ask me why my brother is still in, buying and selling their lies) I could go on and on about my father and what a man he was but I think the point is made. Lesssssssssss Seeeeeeeeeeee now.... You said lots o things, one line stood out... "I sacrificed persuing a college type career for a Christian service type life" Lots of observations from this statement... Sounds bitter... the word sacrificed implying loss... don't blame you... like Stanley Kowalski "I coulda been a contender" There is probably a long list of reasons why you couldn't pick back up on your educational pursuit. I'd feel cheated too. I had a hard road for many years post twi. Just got by check to check, broke more often than not. Made a bunch of money... then went broke again... made some REALLY BAD CHOICES, lost my wife and daughter.... OKAY SO here's the point... EVERYTHING is what you make of it. I chose to take the good use it, learn from the bad, no one, no experience, is worthless. If nothing else you can learn what not to do, how not to be. I see a lot of people post in here that seem to want to wallow in the past.... whatever. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE SINCE THEN (not you specificlly Rhino, don't take this personal..) In retro again... if I'm applying principles ingrained in my character by my father ..... I HONOR HIS LIFE and what he taught me. What a priviledge (sp?)! One other thought about what you said, and excuse me if this is too "wayish". If we are "just passing through" then my mother's plaque she has hanging on her wall still holds true, it says... "only one life twill soon be past... only what's done for Christ will last" I chose to believe that even though twi was/is evil in it's nature, most of the participants were not. And while there we did care, love, minister and.... hold on.... we probably even got some people born again some how!!! WOW what a thought!!! So when all of this world is laid waste, and we stand before the Lord.... maybe you won't feel like you wasted that brief time in your life. Full circle.... am I proud to be "Way Corps?" I donno, and in the immediate context of this topic I haven't had to "do" a resume in some time. BUT if the things I learned/did/experienced in the corpse applied to the position I was applying for I would not hesitate to include it. I DO however have a way with words and interview well. If you're applying for an engineer position I don't know if including twi would be a great idea.

Alright.... Confession time... I AM AL and I'm a....... REALITY SHOW JUNKIE.... "Hi AL"..... so what's the point???? It's a given that the "reality shows" aren't... not really, but I watch "the Apprentice" anyway and I was/am struck by the LOW LOW LOW expectations of "the Donald" on some of the "tasks" assigned. The final task each round has been to organize and execute some large foot event, with the appropriate last minute problems thrown in to upset the finalists and see if they can think on their feet, and how well they recover. etc etc etc THE POINT???? This show features (suppossedly) some of the brightest and best our universities and businesses have produced... yet the Donald makes his choice based on how well they pull off a meeting???? ....... here's the point... something that any way corps person should have been able to do after their 1st year in res. I learned a HeII of o lot in res... albeit was way way way more along the lines of organization, confidense, can do, positive, git r done attitude, than it was "christian leadership training" How sad that so many I see posting here spent so much time, energy, and MONEY on something that they still don't seem to be able to find ANYTHING that benifited them in their life currently. My father once taught me that "you can learn SOMETHING from anything you do if you look for something to learn"