doriangreen

Thank you guys for everything, honestly just hearing your stories and advice give me hope. sometimes i feel like i am going crazy and doubt whether i really know what i am talking about....i guess that is what twi members try to make you feel. but it is encouraging to hear your advice and wisdom. thank you! (ps i am girl, sorry i know my username makes it kind of confusing) :)

thank you every one! i will keep talking to her and questioning her. and you are right, hopefully what i say will plant seeds in her brain that will grow. thank you everyone, it means a lot

she said she knows weirwille is innocent because she has listened to his sermons and she just knows "he would never do that"

hi everyone. I guess i jut wanted to give an update on my friend. we still have talks every now and again but they are pretty stressful, and they mostly consist of her talking the whole time. i just want to tell her I can't take her seriously....especially when I ask her about weirwille and the ways history of sexual abuse and all she has to say is "i know it is not true". blah! I hate the walls that she has put up...that she probably doesn't even realize she has put up. i hate that she tells me I should not listen to "man" when she only listens to one man. she had uploaded all of pw's books onto my computer a long time ago before i knew what they were so i read through them time and again to understand what she believes...but honestly it is very hard for me to read them without getting angry because it is hard to read lie after lie. all he arguments and "rules of grammar" are weak and infuriating. sorry for that rant. but i guess if you have any advice or encouragment that would be great. i know i need to give this to God and that I have to stop thinking that I can fix this. but i feel i am not doing enough to help her and there is only so much time before she moves in with them.

yeah that is what i was thinking. cause i can hear her sometimes telling them about God and stuff....that is what it seems to me she is doing. but i don't know. it is all very confusing.

yeah the lease is in both our names. i don't know. I don't feel like i need to move out. she isn't like pressuring me to go or anything. and I really have no fear whatsoever that the way is going to suck me in or i will feel the need to take classes. i am very firm in my faith, even more so reading everything about the way and finding verses and explanations that debunk their beliefs on my own. it really has strengthened my faith emmensely. I am going to confront her about the guys and just tell her that I feel convicted and that as christian girls I don't think we should have guys sleeping over. If it gets too crazy then I will find a way to leave. But for now I will just continue being her friend. and I will probably not go to one of her fellowships. thanks for all the advice guys. you really have helped me out in so many ways and I couldn't be more thankful!!! LOVE!

hahaha that made me laugh a lot

well my reasons for going to her fellowship are not because I am looking for answers because I am not. I am strong in what I believe and know is right. I am going because 1) if I go she cannot say when I ask her to come to my church that I have never been to hers 2) so she can't say that I don't understand her fellowship or have never met them or know what they believe. unfortunatley, our lease still has 6 months left so i cannot move out even if i wanted to. but I do think God has placed me here for a reason, and I just have to keep loving her and praying for her. cults are annoying.

i figured as much. she was telling me she wanted me to come to see how the people at her fellowship are good people and I told her i didn't doubt that they weren't. but i also told her if I went i would like her to come to my church with me and she replied "well since I know they won't be speaking truth, i don't know what I would benefit from it". golly, she is so hard to talk to. it is so stressful! and when i told her i would go to see her side of things she said "there is no side, this is the truth and the only way" blah!! but i wasn't saying anything mean towards her , but just listened and asked questions. it is really hard to talk to her anyway with anything regarding God, because she always has to give her two cents and "there is no debating the word" so I can never have a stress free conversation with her about God. also.....she seems to bringing guys over to sleep over a lot....i never really see them but i can hear them. and I guess the way is ok with that? sleeping with guys? because you would think with all the studying she does she would be convicted about that sort of thing but she doesn't seem to think it is wrong at all. i was thinking i might talk to her about it, because I am not really cool with it.

soooo I posted here awhile ago about finding out my roommate is in the way (although it was under a different username) and you know we talked, and it didn't go that well. but just recently my friend (and roommate) went on this retreat with her twig and when she came back she said she needed to talk to me. She told me that God has been telling her that I should go to her fellowship. I told her I would think and pray about it. And I decided that I would go to one, just to show her that i am open to knowing what she believes....looking at both sides persay. so do you think that is a good idea? I have a guy friend who said he would go with me too, so i won't be alone. I don't know....your input would be helpful :) thanks