RottieGrrrl

Song that's very cute. You're obviously familiar with the story. I hope Santa brings you your corvette next year! GRRRL POWER!

Mall certificate (my favorite) otherwise....rottie mug, rottie t-shirt, rottie bumper sticker, rottie figurine, rottie poster. The one thing I really wanted was a rottie key-chain and I didn't get that. Plus I wanted the book "Neverending Story" and I didn't get that. Oh and I got some gloves from a guy at the dog park because I was always complaining about my freezing hands and told him I'm to lazy to go to the store and buy my own. That was sweet of him. Nico got better stuff than I did. Hey Dots that feezer full of meat sounds good to me. One year I got this woman from the offshoot I used to attend some steaks from 1800-LiveLob, and she loved it. GRRRL POWER!

cute comic WhiteDove Nico talked too, she complained about her food. She wants more T-bones. Dots, that sounds a little like Mary Worth to me. But I'm not sure. As kids we used to go into the bathroom, turn out the light, close our eyes and say "I believe in Mary Worth" 50 times and when you open your eyes she's in the mirror. But you could do that anytime, not just Halloween. GRRRL POWER!

But only the pure of heart can hear them. I heard Nico talk! I did! What did yours say? Did you hear? Hmmmm? GRRRL POWER!

Well.....My Mom's church's midnight mass is at 10pm GRRRL POWER!

Thanks exie. I get it now. PI. PEEEE I. That's toooo funny. LOL.! Hope: I'm glad you pointed out what rhymed with speak. I thought of it too. And geek. Hark the herald angels speak, for crying out loud. Gawwwd, to think I was a part of this stuff not too long ago, LOL! This is too funny, rightly divided Christmas Carols, LOL! GRRRL POWER!

what's no Peei? GRRRL POWER!

OH I get it now. Duh. It's supposed to be done to the 12 days of X-mas. I wonder who wrote the revisions? I'm sorry but I still can't get over "Hark the Herald Angels Speak." That's the funniest thing I've heard in awhile. GRRRL POWER!

I knew a guy who had 2 turtles named Flo and Eddie. No really. GRRRL POWER!

I think a dam is a parent. But I still don't like that word bitch for a female. GRRRL POWER!

OMG these are totally cool names. Though I'd like to also hear names you'd think are cool names too, for future pets, not just the fur kids you own now, (thought they're totally cool names, ALL of them) Galen, must we call a female dog a bitch? Can't she be called a Dam? Or is that just a fancy name for bitch? I don't really know. GRRRL POWER!

That other thread got me thinking. I LOVE the name Nico. Nikko, Niko, whatever. Nyx-/Nyxie: Female dog/cat. (Nyx Is Godess of the night, in mythology) Dillinger: Male name, dog. Dracula: Black cat. Vampi: Female cat/black dog. Zeus: Male Dog Hmm, what other names are there? Always nice to compile a list for future fur kids. GRRRL POWER!

Hark the Herald angels speak. OMG that is too much. LOL! I know the off$hit wouldn't sing "Hark the herald angels sing" because it was not rightly divided but I was spared the revision at least. OMG. :)--> GRRRL POWER!

Yeah I have to second what Marked and Avoided said. There is a church just several blocks away from me that I thought looked rather intriguing. It's a "Christadelphia Church" I did a quick search on the internet and found a couple similiarities. Non trinitarians. They have home fellowships, in fact, this little church was one of the few real buildings they had in this country it seems. They mostly operated through home fellowships. (I think they started in England) Now ya gotta remember, this was several years ago when I was still struggling a LOT with Waybrain, and I was searching for something similar to the Way. I remember calling JL (I had attended a couple of CES functions) and asking him if he knew about them. He said yeah, and he said they have some questionable doctrine, they don't believe in the devil, for one. They think all evil is a result of man or something. But he told me whether or not I go is my decision, if I want to check it out, then check it out. Well, I did some more checking on that little church, I decided not too go. But I thought his response was refreshing. Gee, he's actually encouraging me to use my own brain on this? I was almost taken aback. I didn't even think I knew how to anymore! GRRRL POWER!

JT: How thoughtful! I love it! But I don't know what an "El Shaddai" is. I'm kind of a duhhead. Which is why I was never good in the Way classes. WaterB: That is just priceless. Too bad you didn't take a picture of it. I love some of those small towns along the bible belt too. "Jesus lives in Dayton County!" or whatever. You would never see a sign like that out here. STFI is funny. Figures Steve would be the one who would notice what he noticed. ;)--> Yeah ex10 your right about them correcting the error of "Way walk" because they were the ONLY ones I would listen too, and even then it took awhile. Out here in Chicagoland they totally dis CES. Sometimes I wonder if they're so bullheaded out here because they want to be the ones in charge out here. Which is foolish. This area is a lost cause as far as any impact the offshoots are making. It's the same ole people, same ole same ole. Yawn. I know the local offshoot "pastor" even wrote his own book, called something like "One God, the unfinished Reformation" Or something like that. I felt like asking him why he just didn't buy a copy of CES's book instead. Could have saved him the trouble. That's why I think it's more a power struggle and they really don't have peoples best interests in mind. GRRRL POWER!

Mayberry's church was the "All souls" church. lol. Bit of Mayberry trivia for you there. JT: that's a funny story. CES's new name does sound like something from a church name generator. "All -souls -sacred blood- of -the -lamb -holy -ghost- power...good grief this could be neverending. HEY, this reminds me that story about that guy who was going to commit suicide, and he said "God, if you don't want me to do this, give me a sign!" At that moment the phone rang and the caller ID said "Almighty God." The guy was afraid to answer, but the next day called the number on the ID. It turns out it was a pastor from "Almighty God Tabernacle." The pastor realized he had called a wrong number when he was calling his wife the night before. Story isn't true btw, but it's cute. GRRRL POWER!

Clunkiness. that's funny Dan. I don't have a problem with CES either. (I don't think I'll get the hang of their new name) They helped me get over some of my wayfer thinking. The only reason I'm not an active participant is pretty much the same reason as for all Ex-Twi groups. I just don't care to be involved in a group that revolves itself around classes anymore. I've met some nice people in CES but I simply can't be jetting all over the country to attend their meetings. If I ever get involved in a church again it would be something local, more social, and much less intense. I guess I'm still looking for something out of Mayberry and the "All Souls" church that Andy attended. GRRRL POWER!

Zix that's great. What a big happy family. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!

krys: That card is adorable. I LOVE interactive cards. I'm going to have to send that to a couple of people. I can't watch animal cops. It's too hard. Volenteering at an animal shelter just cleaning kennels would be heartbreaking. Your heart would be broken every day. Petting a dog one day and the next day there dead. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!

That's true about the operation. I think it cost 200 bucks for Nico. But ya know, if your going to get an animal, you have to figure in those expenses. There is no such thing as a free puppy or kitten. Nico was 650.00 for pet quality, wich is a great price for a well bred rott, (although she was show quality, if I bought her as such it would have been a few hundred more) And although she had been dewormed, dewclawed, weened,innoculated and microchipped she still needed 2 more shots from the vet I remember. Plus new toys, food, puppy class right away, (oh yeah, they require a kennel cough shot for that) She had cost probably 1100 to 1200 dollars right off the bat. I was saving for it though and knew what to expect. That's why screening is important to breeders. Some people will take a free puppy and then realize what an expense and work it is and bam! They wind up in a shelter or a pound. And it's probably better that they get euthanized than some person with ill intentions getting ahold of them. (bait for dog fights, lab experiements etc.) From what I remember it wasn't in the contract that I HAD to have her spayed (some breeders do have that in a contract) but it was verbally understood I would NOT breed her. And this lady screened her buyers pretty good. She turned away more people than she allowed to buy her pups. But yeah, I know what you mean about a female in heat. Geez. I wouldn't want to think about a 110 lbs horny female rott trying to break through the window to get to a male during her "time" And God bless that couple who takes in the homeless critters. I don't know how they can afford it either. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!

Again, I was more involved with an offshoot. Looking back I can say I was NEVER comfortable there. There were red flags all over the place. The teachings towards women were damaging to my psyche. The heart was not there. I was so narrowminded in my thinking that I was convinced, these people were the ones with the truth. And I was told that more than once too. I think I left shortly before Waydale came out. After about 7 years. I just got to the point where I was a mess. Emotionally, spiritually, physically. I was drinking and depressed. I just couldn't go there anymore. I couldn't bear the thought of going there. So I stopped. After I stopped, the fog slowly lifted. I started checking out CES's website, started reading Waydale, and became "enlightened" on where this offshoot mentality (the local one I was attending) was coming from. These people got it from "The Way" duh. I had no idea. It's been almost 4 years since the last "fellowship" I attended, I think. And I'm still clearing my head on stuff. I still feel funny talking to Jesus, much less praying to Him. I still can't end a prayer with "in Jesus's name, I have to Add Christ, or add it silently if someone else is praying. I still can't bear to read the bible. I really should get another one. (I like the one Joyce Meyer uses) I have problems listening to even good TV preachers for more than a couple minutes. I still have to catch myself when I pray. I try to ask God for things instead of thanking Him ahead of time. There are probably other things too, I just can't think right now. But I've still come a long way I think. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!

There already is a world of education out there Dots. I know it's frustrating.It's sort of like me smoking cigarettes. I know it's bad for me. Do I listen if someone tells me it's bad? No. Let me give you a couple of examples of incidents I've been through myself. I'm at PetSmart with Nico. A nice young girl who works there comes up to us and pets Nico. She said she has a rottweiler and then she proudly tells me that her family bred it with a German shepherd, and they bred her with a pitt bull and they are going to breed her with another dog. I'm sitting there smiling like an idiot saying "Oh! how nice!" or some such $hit. I mean, what could I say? This girl works at PETSMART for crying out loud where rescues are there ALL the freaking TIME! It's hard enough to find homes for purebreds out there without breeding mutts. Another instance. When I used to go to fellowship at the local offshoot. This pastors wife, who is an intelligent lady, told me they wanted to breed their Golden Retriever because she wanted her children to see the "miracle of birth" I gently explained to her that is considered to be one of the worse reasons to breed a dog. She asked why, and I told her. Her kids would probaby miss the event anyway. Pregnancy is complicated and painful. I explained that the Humane Society's alternative suggestion is that if you want to teach your kids about sex then a better idea is to rent a video on birth, and to take them to the animal shelter and let them see the animals being put to death because of irresponsibility. To give this woman credit, she listened to what I said and didn't breed her dog. God bless her, she listened. When I was searching for a rottweiler breeder people knew I was looking for a dog, and they were like, OH, I have a freind who's dog just had a litter, or My dog just had puppies! Why don't you take one of them? One guy tried to put a guilt trip on me. "Hey, I thought you liked animals." What nerve. I got very defensive. I told him not to make his problem my problem. I told him that my family and myself have taken in strays all our lives. I said if I wanted a dog like that I could go to the shelter, because dozens of good dogs are dumped there every day. I told him if that had been my dog she never would have been bred. When I found a good breeder, I had to have my deposit in after the first week the litter was born. And that's lenient. Some breeders require deposits before they even breed a dog. Thank God we at least have good animal control in the US. It's almost too good. They're practically invisible. We don't see too many strays because there usually picked up right away. My parents were in Puerto Rico once and they said the dogs were starving in the streets. (a lot of shar-pei's and other dogs)People thought my dad was nuts because he bought a dog a hamburger. But ya know, maybe if people saw first hand, just what the consequenses are, that would wake them up a little bit. Other than education, all you can do is try to catch the bad guys in the act when they dump a dog. Try to get a license number, call the cops. At least they'll get a ticket and maybe feel some shame. A field trip for kids to an animal shelter isn't a bad idea either. I just wonder if even after these people dumped there bag of cats at your door, or the little girl called up in hysterics, if the people learned even then. But you know, I don't mean to come off high and mighty. I used to do stupid things myself with my old dog (leave him outside a store while I went in, etc.) I would NEVER do that now. Now that I've learned a couple things. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God! [This message was edited by RottieGrrrl on December 09, 2003 at 11:07.]

No Way. GREAT post. Unfortunately I've had a similar experience with the local offshoot here. It's such a pattern. Even when someone from the offshoot recommended a book or something, I found out that it was the latest book being promoted by the wayfers. It's not like someone actually had the originality and incentive to find something by themselves. It's just freaking amazing. No matter how unique you think your experiences are, it all stems from a pattern that TWI set in place long ago. For any newbies at offshoots: Things were not all peaches and cream when Weirwille was alive. They were screwing up peoples lives back then too. I won't bore you with the details but believe me, whatever spin story your local offshoot is givng you is balogna. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!

I have to say that when I hear Grandma got run over by a reindeer, I want to take the Christmas tree and bash the speakers. They must play that 50, 000 times every year. Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!

ROTF! :)--> Cat spelled backwards does NOT spell God!