WordWolf

Who is it stumping?

Kinda reminds me of that show about the prison, but this is a movie, not a show.....

Crispin Glover Charlie's Angels-Full Throttle Bernie Mac

Something from Harry Potter?

You can't have it both ways, guys. Bol dismissed the entire fields of Psychology and Sociology, claiming he understood them and dismissed them but was ok to do that based on extensive background in the hard sciences (Physics, Chemistry, etc.) Then you come around and say he doesn't communicate better because he doesn't know better. There's a continuity break between YOUR Bolsh and the Bolsh in his posts who lectures in a university and whose students seem to always understand him.

Sandra Bullock Demolition Man Glenn Shadix

That's it- from the first press conference.

Ok, that narrowed it down a lot. :) DEAN MARTIN?

"I never got to say goodbye to my father. There's questions I would've asked him. I would've asked him how he felt about what his company did, if he was conflicted, if he ever had doubts. Or maybe he was every inch of man we remember from the newsreels."

Ok, then how about....wait, that was it? Ok, my turn then.

How about JACK NICHOLSON??

Wild swing here....... "Raising Arizona"?????????

Bob Hope???

Demolition Man Benjamin Bratt Catwoman

The original, that's it.

Presumed Innocent Brian Dennehy Romeo + Juliet

Cesar Romero Norman Fell Red Skelton Pinky Lee George Raft Peter Lawford Frank Sinatra Dean Martin Sammy Davis Jr

Nathan Jr, it's your turn. Feel free to go to a source like Imdb or wikiquote to get quotes from the movie you choose- or to find a movie to choose.

BTW, Mike? It's not only dishonest to keep painting the posters as if they think vpw had no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and was continuous, unrelieved evil. That's just not true. We've discussed that in threads. I even did a poll- zero people agreed with that position. We've also discussed him with his positive traits as well- I started a thread once specifically to do just that. Lying about people while calling THEM liars is never the way to get people on your side. I'm sure you're unable to process any of that, but that makes it no less true.

Translation- Mike has worn out his welcome everywhere else. He hasn't been banned from the GSC. So, he posts here. BTW, Mike keeps refusing to take responsibility for his posting. He was never grabbed off the street, gagged and tied up, and driven somewhere. He was not "kidnapped" here. The "long story" is a short story. Someone who Mike had sent a communication to said "can you believe the b.s. some people spread? This is what I got in the mail" and posted some of Mike's manifestos. Mike then showed up and tried to defend his nonsense. That would be a "long story" if Mike was telling it. BTW. Mike? The internet is like anywhere else. You can get disagreements and so on. You choose to come here, knowing we know you're posting nonsense and will call you on it. So, don't pretend to be shocked when it happens. It's a natural by-product of going somewhere and starting controversy. If you don't want static for adoring wierwille, don't go where wierwille survivors post. If you don't want to get called on how error-ridden his work was, and how little was done by him, don't post where people know his history. Between all the static you get called on around here, I wonder if the staff have wondered whether it is even cost-effective to let you go on for pages and pages and pages, and keep getting refuted, since everything adds up.

You forget, we are all aware of you revering wierwille. He was "born with an overabundance of brains and brawn", he was "overgifted", and "where he walked, the earth shook."

waysider: "Focus on his mobster ways and ties to the underworld and Al Capone was a failure. Focus on the 2,200 people per day who were served by his soup kitchen and he was a success." -------------------------------------- skyrider: "When was wierwille "in fellowship?" When was wierwille's "new man nature" evident? For instance, was wierwille in fellowship with God when he shut down his LIVE TEACHINGS at pfal '77 and had his desk brought out so that he could sit and read scripture verses while he sipped his Drambuie? Was wierwille's new man nature in play when he tweaked Rev. Oral Robert's teaching on "The Fourth Man" and pawned it off as "The Red Thread?" Even in his "finest moments"...... (cough, cough) the charlatan wierwille was play-acting the part of a spiritual man of God. He was a serial plagiarist who had rarily a thought, an idea, or a teaching that he could absolutely call his own. He fooled LOTS of people along the way, but did you ever notice that it was those closest to him.....valets, bodyguards, pilots, research men, etc....abandoned him even BEFORE he retired in 1982? Wierwille certainly didn't allow "on-again / off-again" men around him. He demanded commitment, focus and even near perfection. How often did some of us corps see wierwille berate a corps person for the simplest of mistakes? Wierwille was a chain-smoking drunkard, an unforgiving taskmaster, a bully to even the weakest corps member, a striker when irritated, a life-long misogynist and sexual predator. Anyone who CONTINUES TO THIS DAY to give wierwille a pass is a devoted sycophant and possibly a hidden narcissist himself to garner self-referential attention." =========================================================== skyrider: "What wierwille REALLY WAS...... was a man of the flesh. He was a deceiver, a con man... play-acting the role of "a spiritual man." In fact, since his narcissism knew no bounds.... wierwille KEPT INCREASING his "greatness." In his skinny-tie filming of the 1967 pfal class, wierwille dubbed himself as "The Teacher." Just write The Teacher, Box 328, New Knoxville, Ohio 45871. By the mid-70s, his inner circle and enablers kept referring to him as "The Man of God" (a title that vpw fully encouraged and embraced). Then, by the early 80's, he laid claim to the title "Our Father in the Word" (of which, I guess teaching pfal = fathering people in 'the Word'). And lastly, to transcend all other labels, Chris Geer pegged the summit of wierwille's legacy as "A Patriarch" ( the father and ruler of a family or tribe). YET, wierwille's life was befitting to NONE of those titles. The Book of Timothy chapter 3 specifically outlines for us the office of a bishop, an overseer. What was wierwille's report card on THIS LIST OF REQUIREMENTS? Dismal to non-existent. He was not prepared in all points [blameless], nor vigilant, nor sober of sound thinking, not patient, but a striker, a brawler and contentious. Wierwille was puffed up with pride as he looked down his nose at others. He fell into reproach and snares of the devil. Need I go on? Many were deceived by his stage-presence. And, wierwille was well-aware of this deception.... that's why he rarely let his mask slip. But when it did slip, one caught a glimpse of a vindictive, mean man." ------------------------------------------------ =========================================================== Charity: "On top of the time vp actually spent on doing all of the above is the time he spent thinking about them before, during and after - his persistent cravings and lustful desires, his devious and cunning planning, his sick anticipation, his self-proclaimed conquests, etc. Someone who commits so many abhorrent acts for so long without repentance has spent a huge amount of his mental energy dwelling in darkness. As a narcissist, his need to be the center of attraction and to feel superior had to be forefront in his mind. It's hard to think that his new man ever saw the light of day. " ==================================================== So crates: "So you're saying Saint Vic was most in fellowship when he was being a phony, being hypocritical, and when he was ripping off other people's work. SMH. " ===================================================== skyrider: "TRANSLATION: Mike makes these grandiose declarations about wierwille's life and "greatness"..... but then gives evasive replies to back up wierwille's new man nature in Christ. This evasiveness has all the hallmarks of a snake oil representative selling a product from a snake oil company. Always barking bold assertions of wierwille's wares, but only in the shadowy form of generalities. Pfffttt." ======================================================= OldSkool: "wierwille's concept of in/out of fellowship are comical. It was as if you could do whatever you wanted as long as your believing wasnt compromised and you were acting out of love. It's almost like you could be in fellowship, and that would equate to standing under a flood light, and then be out of fellowhip, and that would equate to standing out of the floodlight in the dark. What kind of non-sensical garbage is that...because meanwhile the sinful and destructive behavior never stopped with wierwille. It didn't stop with martindale. It didnt stop with rosalile because she covered it all up, spending vast sums of donations on lawyer fees and out of court settlements. Bottom line is when you ask for forgiveness it's accompanied by the fruits meet for repentance, as John The Baptist stated. In other words, the sinful actions stop and there is a corresponding change of heart that led to the action in the first place so the action isn't repeated. Ive never come across any indication of that sort of thing with wierwille...check this.. wierwille taught martindale to be a sexual predator. Theoretically, had wierwille truly repented his repentance would have been followed with him addressing the ministry (or something similar) appropriately so they no longer think his former sinful ways are justifiabally correct. Maybe mike can find proof of wierwille doint this sort of thing in one of his files, but Ive never seen any indication of a change from any of the top honchos...wierwille, martindale, rosalie who was involved never publicly repented...etc. " ================================ There were entire threads relevant to this. One was skyrider's "To the very end- Wierwille's Wantonness." https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24239-to-the-very-endwierwilles-wantonness/

So, the ridiculous idea on the table right now is that one can take the same man, a serial criminal, a serial sinner, rapist, molester, simonist, drunkard, and view him as God's Spokesman because there's no direct connection in his life between the sinning and the preaching, so God Almighty is ok with COMPARTMENTALIZING a man's life so that a career criminal is acceptable as the spokesman for God Almighty. Well, you'd think a claim like that would have a verse to try to quote, except that concept's far from the Bible. How about a claim that you know God Almighty is cool with that because the criminal did a bunch of Mighty Miracles in between the rapes and so on, so we know God was energizing the miracles in between and seems complicit with the criminal's evil deeds? Well, the best we get, when asked, is that he was a "success" when you focused exclusively on his "new man nature." Does this mean miracles? No, when asked, the best we got was that the teachings were really good. So, we know the criminal was doing God's work because the man produced some good teachings. But that's not proof of ANYTHING! All the good stuff is KNOWN to have been PLAGIARIZED. It was the work of a holy photocopy machine! But on the basis of some good teachings, we're supposed to give a free pass to an alcoholic rapist to commit all sorts of sins and crimes on the ministry dime.

Ok, so vpw was a pervert, a drunkard, a liar, a rapist, a plagiarist, and other criminally-bar things, to say nothing of how Biblically bad and sinful those things were. Someone tried to COMPARTMENTALIZE the life of vpw. So, when vpw was in a private place raping, that was "his old man nature." An hour later, when he was at the podium teaching, vpw's "new man nature" was UNAFFECTED by that and was doing teachings greatly superior to anywhere else. First of all, the teachings were equaled and bettered in other places, because the vpw ones were all plagiarized from other sources, So, elsewhere and at that moment, some Christians were teaching equally well, and other Christians were teaching BETTER, since vpw was never better than his best plagiarized source. Second, Christians are warned of the leaven principle lots of times, evil in one's life in ONE place affects the ENTIRE life, just as a little leaven leavens the whole lump. In the actual Bible, there's no "and the preacher was a criminal, taught some great Bible, then went back and committed more crimes, and God Almighty was ok with that and covered his tracks and gave him revelation and was ok with this criminal as His spokesman."