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  1. Next. We all know MTV used to play music videos. In fact, it exclusively used to play music videos. When MTV first began broadcasting, what was the first video they played?
  2. Say 'goodbye' to the oldies-but-goodies, 'cause the good old days weren't always good and tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems. "Keeping the Faith", Billy Joel.
  3. Ok, most likely some vampire flick, then. "Dracula-the Untold Story"???
  4. Some prints of this movie omit the final line from a scene- one of my favorite lines from the movie- "Every one of them has a mother." There's some prints that leave out part of the scene where 2 of the characters reach a boat. What was Jack La Lanne doing in this movie? Some of the characters have odd histories. One had a last name of "Beagle" before it was rewritten into the now-familiar last name (and middle names "Thaddeus Crane"). Another was visually based on the comic strip character "Broadway Bates." (With a middle name of "Chesterfield.") Another has the middle name "Worthington." (None of the middle names appeared in the movie.) It's not stated in the movie, but it's thought the bulk of the story took place in New Jersey. The Spanish-language version of this movie included characters named Bruno Diaz and Ricardo Tapia Someone parodied Nikita Krushchev's famous "bang the shoe at the UN" moment in this movie. A Chrysler Imperial and a Lincoln Futura prototype both appear in this movie A former Miss America appeared in the cast. References to Robert Louis Stevenson's novels were snuck into the movie, but not into the dialogue. This movie was NOT distributed by Warner Brothers (making it peculiar). Once you've seen the scene where "Bringing in the Sheaves" is played, it's hard not to have the song stuck in your head whenever thinking about that scene.
  5. Ok, the most recent series has had at least 7 seasons, so that eliminates a few possibilities. I'm thinking this is only one of a few possible franchises, but I'm not sure which has been around longer. So, I'll go with a "CSI" spinoff. Is it a "CSI" spinoff?
  6. Then Raf was right. Wordpup loves the concept of the Rickroll. Furthermore, he's cool with Rick Astley's song without any tricks.
  7. (I thought "You're all mad" was actually a giveaway.)
  8. There's a few possibilities here. I'll start with the outlier. "HIGHLANDER???"
  9. The link isn't working for me. What song did he say it was?
  10. Nathan_Jr: “Don't the epistles provide criteria for a man of god? Haven't we already shown victor doesn't meet those criteria?” Mike: "The epistles do not tell us how God picks people for super special jobs, like listen to what God said he should trust and not trust in other authors and researchers. That super special 1942 job also entailed teaching it, distributing it and listening to God’s guidance in that as well. He got the job done, mostly, by his retirement in 1982. ============================= It's rather silly to cling so doggedly to what was so thoroughly disproven. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24980-concerning-the-failure-of-the-1942-promise/ There was no special nor super special 1942 job. The only reason to think there was, is the testimony of a proven liar and proven fraud. It is not sound thinking to trust the words of a proven liar. It is not sound thinking to trust the genuine work of a known fraud. It is not sound thinking to give credibility to someone who has a history of lying, defrauding, and so on. They've already squandered "the benefit of the doubt."
  11. WordWolf

    Cat whispering II

    I'm sorry for your loss. Our furry friends and our furry family have shorter lives, and often leave ours much too soon for our tastes. (Also true for many humans, but moreso for our fuzzy family.) Tuxedo had a happy home, and knew she was loved and cared for. If there's anything else to offer, I don't know about it. She will be missed like we miss so many of our friends.
  12. That about sums it up. I could get into how his opinion doesn't change anything. I could get into how we saw books that have proper crediting do NOT distract from the text ("Babylon Mystery Religion" had end-notes that were legally and morally correct, and did NOT distract- in fact, it's easy to read the book and not notice they're there.) I could get into how vpw himself had a double-standard, where he helped himself to everyone else's books without proper legal and moral credit (in the majority of cases, he put a few in to cover his tracks), and then turned around and put copyright notices on all "his" books. Ultimately, it's pointless. The sensible don't need me to point it out, and the other type would agree no matter how logical it is.
  13. Since someone asked, EW Bullinger's "Giver and His Gifts" is a lot easier to find under the title "Word Studies on the Holy Spirit."
  14. We got plenty of STORIES about how all sorts of things happened on the other side of the world, in front of people we couldn't speak to and ask. When it came to day-to-day in twi, we should have been tripping over instances all the time of miraculous things happening. There should have been a "how to" in the Advanced class, with people taught live and seeing things happening right there. We should have been hearing how people joined twi and traveled to hq so that vpw could deliver miraculous healing. We had one story like that- but it was one where somebody went in their wheelchair, got to vpw face-to-face, and no healing was even ATTEMPTED. Instead, we got anecdotes about good parking spaces. "Kojacking" in place of miracles is a miserable failure, and a lousy counterfeit. I also won't buy "I once heard from someone that they knew someone who once saw...." If vpw was legit and the miracles were legit, there would have been plenty of public miracles every ROA and they would have been common occurrences on grounds for people who lived and worked there.
  15. It's that simple. And if your premise is faulty, everything that proceeds from it is faulty.
  16. Hi. Since some of you have never read the archives, I'm reposting this out of them for your convenience. It's called "The Integrity of Your Word", and I didn't write it. http://web.archive.org/web/20030220025532/http://www.greasespotcafe.com/editorial/plagiarism-wierwille.htm It hardly seems like a big deal. Borrow a phrase here or a sentence there. As long as your goal is to make God’s Word known, what’s the problem? Is there a copyright on the Bible? Some of the typical excuses for plagiarism center on the thought that no one is really hurt by it, and that everyone borrows thoughts and ideas. The book of Ecclesiastes reveals that there is nothing new under the sun: surely this includes expositions on reading and understanding the Bible, doesn’t it? Yet it’s fairly easy to illustrate that there is something fundamentally wrong with plagiarism. Suppose, for argument’s sake, that you picked up a book tomorrow at Barnes & Noble. The book cover reads, The Ability to Live Abundantly, and the author’s name is Rafael Olmeda. As you open the book, you notice that the first chapter quotes John 10:10. Afterward, it says, “This verse literally change my life. In my years in the Christian ministry, I’ve never manifested an abundant life. It seemed unbelievers were manifesting a more abundant life than Christians. Yet Jesus Christ said he came that we might have life and that we might have it more abundantly. Why are Christians failing to manifest even an abundant life?” The remainder of the book lays out keys for how to understand the Bible. There’s a chapter on how to receive anything from God, including an anecdote about “fire engine red” curtains. Another chapter is called “The Battle of the Senses.” Anyone who’s had any experience with The Way International would recognize that “my” book was little more than a retyping of Victor Paul Wierwille’s Power For Abundant Living. If I were to take that book, slap a new title on it, change a few words around so that the quotes are not exact, could I really call myself an author (especially if I fail to give Wierwille credit for his work)? Could I, in good conscience, sell my book and take the profits? Would you not call me on it? Victor Paul Wierwille was a plagiarist. He took the research of other men and passed it off as his own. He took their words and put his name on them. The most notable example of this is Receiving the Holy Spirit Today. To a lesser extent, he clearly borrowed liberally from E.W. Bullinger’s How to Enjoy the Bible in his book and class Power For Abundant Living. His plagiarism has been well documented, and anyone who doubts it is referred to John Juedes’ Web site (http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/vp_stiles.htm), in which he presents compelling evidence to back up the accusation. This article’s goal is not to prove that Wierwille was a plagiarist. We already feel others have provided that proof. This article is more concerned with the implications of Wierwille’s plagiarism as it relates to his ministry and his memory. First, let’s define our terms and look at some examples of what is and what is not plagiarism. To plagiarize, according to the Oxford Dictionary, is to take and use (the thoughts, writings … of another person) as one’s own. It’s a fairly straightforward definition, and it’s usually easy to detect. Sometimes, like the word “obscenity,” it’s not easy to define an actual infraction. Quoting from a published work without identifying it as a quote or giving credit to the source of the quote is plagiarism. Taking a previously published paragraph and changing a few words but retaining the basic structure and meaning of the original paragraph, without crediting the source, is plagiarism. Copying the structure of a book, using the same references in the same order, but changing a few sentences to account for theological differences, without crediting the source, is plagiarism. Inadvertently writing the same sentence that someone else wrote while researching the same subject is not plagiarism. I’m sure if you look through other published works, you will find sentences eerily similar to some of the sentences I’ve written here. Plagiarism does not merely arise from the similarity of phrases, sentences, paragraphs or chapters. Plagiarism arises from the deliberate attempt to take credit for someone else’s work. There have been examples of “accidental” plagiarism. Authors forget to cite their sources, or don’t recall that something they wrote was not original. I once started writing a novel, and later recognized several clever paragraphs as having originated in an Indiana Jones movie. It was inadvertent, and therefore, not plagiarism. Dumb, but not plagiarism. Paraphrasing or repeating the same well-known adage or expression is not plagiarism. If I were to write an article on “How to Become Born Again,” I would be going over material that has been researched and studied over and over again by countless men and women of God. There can be little doubt that I would use some of the same verses, maybe even in the same order, as someone else. That doesn’t make it plagiarism. What makes it plagiarism is if I take someone else’s work on the subject, retype it with my name on the cover, and submit it to whoever’s publishing it as though I had done the work myself. Here’s an example of repeating a well-known phrase: in one of E.W. Bullinger’s books, he quotes the Biblical statement “the natural man cannot know the things of the spirit of God because they are spiritually discerned” (I’m actually paraphrasing). If Wierwille plagiarizes Bullinger here, is it really plagiarism? Well, yes and no. By itself, it’s not plagiarism, because they’re both just quoting the Bible. Now, if Wierwille is using the quote in the same way Bullinger used it, to make the same point, using the same illustrations, etc, then we might have a stronger case against him. But again, by itself, that hardly seems an infraction. Another “gray area” can be found in the Studies in Abundant Living series. The chapter on “The Counsel of the Lord” in the “Blue Book” borrows quite specifically from the selected writings of E.W. Bullinger. The chapter on “Your Power of Attorney” in the “Green Book” is clearly based on The Wonderful Name of Jesus, by E.W. Kenyon. It was Kenyon, not Wierwille, who first wrote about the concept of a Christian’s “power of attorney.” Likewise, Kenyon was the one who first wrote that Jesus inherited a name, was given a name, and obtained a name. Anyone who reads Kenyon’s booklet and then reads Wierwille’s chapter will see quite clearly that one influenced the other. So why do I call it a “gray area?” I do so primarily because those chapters in Studies in Abundant Living were originally presented as teachings. Admittedly, one should cite one’s sources even while delivering a sermon (the pastor at the mainstream church I attend does this all the time). But it’s not a big deal to read from someone else’s work while teaching God’s Word. The problem comes when those sermons are transcribed and edited for publication. The sources are lost in the notes of the speaker. The “chapter” that is written now contains borrowed information without attribution. In the publishing world, this is unacceptable. In the category of publishing basic evangelical outreach materials, it is acceptable and routine (else writers would end up with absurd quotations like “according to Billy Graham, salvation comes through faith in Jesus Christ”). What should Wierwille have done? To be truthful, he should have cited Kenyon and Bullinger and anyone else he used as a source in compiling his teachings. If he did not do it while teaching live, he certainly should have done it when the books were being put together. Is it a big deal that he did not follow this simple practice? In my opinion, no, it’s not a big deal. Receiving the Holy Spirit Today, on the other hand, is a big deal. This was Wierwille’s signature book. Together with Power For Abundant Living, it was the foundation on which all of The Way International’s doctrines were based. Wierwille joked that he had forgotten more about the subject of “holy spirit” than some of his critics would ever know. Apparently one of the things Wierwille forgot was to give credit where credit is due. On that subject, some have noted accurately that Wierwille did indeed talk about J.E. Stiles, B.G. Leonard, Bullinger and numerous other people from whom he learned principles of God’s Word. While this is commendable, it does not absolve plagiarism. In order to avoid a charge of plagiarism, one must give credit in the actual book or article being published. It’s not enough to say to a small group of people, “I learned that from Stiles.” If Receiving the Holy Spirit Today quotes significant portions of Stiles’ writings (and it does), then credit to Stiles must be given within the pages of Receiving the Holy Spirit Today. Instead, Wierwille implies that the book was strictly the result of his personal research into the Bible. It was not. He claimed to throw away all his other texts and use the Bible as his only textbook and guide. This was dishonest. It was demonstrably false. It was a lie. Plagiarism is lying. It is lying about the amount of work you put into your written project. When the plagiarist claims to be a uniquely qualified man of God, the lie becomes magnified. Why? Because a minister is, by definition, in a position of trust in the church community. No one expects a minister to be superhuman, but it is not unreasonable to expect honesty and integrity. It is not unreasonable, when you read an article that says “by Rafael Olmeda,” to expect that Rafael Olmeda wrote it. It is not unreasonable, when you read a book that says “by Victor Paul Wierwille,” to expect that Victor Paul Wierwille wrote it. Plagiarism is stealing. In a world where books are published and sold, publishing someone else’s work steals revenue that should have gone to the original writer (or, more accurately, the holder of the original copyright). How many people would have purchased Stiles’ book if they knew it was the original source of much of Wierwille’s book? How many would have purchased Bullinger’s book on the subject? I know, Bullinger is dead: but there’s still a copyright on his work and plagiarizing from him is still stealing from them. Now, Wierwille disagreed with Stiles and Bullinger on a number of issues, so it made sense that he would revise their information rather than just republish. It’s plausible that he would not have gotten permission to quote extensively from their work. There are solutions to those issues. Plagiarism was not an acceptable way to resolve them. Victor Paul Wierwille used other people’s work to prop up his own research ability, his own wisdom and understanding of God’s Word. He used other people’s work to exalt himself as The Teacher, the Man of God, our father in the Word. He did so knowing that the words “by Victor Paul Wierwille” were a lie. So what? That’s an important question. So what? Does it really matter that Wierwille plagiarized? Isn’t it more important in the grand scheme of things that more people have a better understanding of God’s Word as a result of Wierwille’s work? Yes, it is more important that people learn about God. Truth from the pen of a plagiarist is still truth. But plagiarism matters. Plagiarism may not reflect on the accuracy of the information that’s stolen, but it does reflect on the character of the plagiarist. The plagiarist is a liar, a thief, an arrogant, lazy, self-important person who dismisses the hard work of other people and disrespects the intelligence of his readers (by presuming the readers will never learn of the infraction). Receiving the Holy Spirit Today should not be dismissed just because it was the result of plagiarism. There may be other reasons to dismiss it, according to some. But plagiarism is not a valid reason to dismiss the contents. Plagiarism does hurt people. It hurts people by stealing from them. It hurts people by misrepresenting the accomplishments of the plagiarist. The Bible teaches that love does not “puff itself up.” But what is plagiarism if it’s not pretending to do something you did not do? We don’t accept it from high school students. We don’t accept it from college students. We don’t accept it from news reporters, from columnists, from authors. We don’t accept it from historians and researchers. Those are “the world’s” professions. How can we accept a lower standard of integrity from men who profess to stand for God?
  17. What does it matter that it's plagiarized? Part of the whole package we were sold (where we were defrauded) was that this was the full work of some dedicated minister who tried to understand God and serve God the best he could, and the results were the entire package. Moreover, he claimed that- because he was so dedicated- that God Almighty had revealed to him levels of understanding that were unique to him, that nobody else had, and THAT was the entire package we were sold. All of that was a lie, and all of that is provable as lies. Yet, because we trusted- why would a minister of God lie? Why would he be less truthful than us? - we didn't examine things quite so closely. We didn't examine them for errors that weren't that hard to find once one begins looking for them. http://web.archive.org/web/20030220025532/http://www.greasespotcafe.com/editorial/plagiarism-wierwille.htm
  18. It's got to be those 2. But I don't know how most of the clues fit in.
  19. "This series featured neither the first nor the last portrayals of the title characters. The actor who played one title character recently said in today's political climate, he would never be allowed to say a line that has been associated with his character for decades. It was a peculiar claim, considering that he, in character, also never said that line (and it was never spoken in the series, though it did come close once). On a different show, the lead actor went on to play a character you could consider the adoptive uncle of his character in this series." Anyway, I'm actually aware of two series in which the two main characters are named in the title. The two series do NOT have the same name. I'm looking for the earlier of the two series." "One of the shows featuring the two title characters as the title characters is currently airing. I'm looking for the other one. Plenty of other show and movies in which only one of the title characters is a title character (the other is usually present, but not a title character)." "On yet another show, the lead actress went on to play the mother of her character in this series. " So. We have 2 title characters, more than once. We have a current show. We have characters who have had shows DECADES ago. One character was played by an actor, who went on to play the adoptive uncle of the character a different time. With 2 title characters, we can obviously skip Zorro, the Lone Ranger, the Green Hornet, Tarzan, Flash Gordon.
  20. "This series featured neither the first nor the last portrayals of the title characters. The actor who played one title character recently said in today's political climate, he would never be allowed to say a line that has been associated with his character for decades. It was a peculiar claim, considering that he, in character, also never said that line (and it was never spoken in the series, though it did come close once). On a different show, the lead actor went on to play a character you could consider the adoptive uncle of his character in this series." "It is not a spinoff. Not aware of any series in which Cindy Williams or Penny Marshall played their own uncle. Anyway, I'm actually aware of two series in which the two main characters are named in the title. The two series do NOT have the same name. I'm looking for the earlier of the two series." "One of the shows featuring the two title characters as the title characters is currently airing. I'm looking for the other one. Plenty of other show and movies in which only one of the title characters is a title character (the other is usually present, but not a title character)." "If anyone can think of how he can get any closer without giving away the answer, I'm all ears. " "Neither. Batman was not a character on either show. Not that I know of." "On yet another show, the lead actress went on to play the mother of her character in this series. "
  21. Now I'm wondering if it's an MLJ property, like "Riverdale", "Archie", "Sabrina the Teenage Witch". I don't think the "Scooby Doo" franchise can fit the clues no matter how many series' there were. Then again, if Batman MIGHT have been on one of the shows, it's probably a DC property. (That's not guaranteed- they appeared in a "Scooby Doo movies" episode vs the Joker and Penguin. ) Any ideas shake loose, George? I get the feeling we're right on top of this, and still missing it.
  22. "The New Adventures of Batman" was the cartoon in the 70s that added Batgirl and Bat-Mite. "The Adventures of Batman & Robin" was basically the sequel to "Batman-the Animated Series." "The Adventures of Batman" was the old Filmation cartoon from the 60s. I'm sure we're right on top of the answer. One show IS CURRENTLY AIRING- if we could name that one, I'm sure we'd have the other. ("Gotham Knights?" "Titans?" )
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