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Deleting old System Restore Points. This should be done every once in a while. If it's been a long time, you'll discover a lot more free space on your pc all of a sudden. Here's how it's done on XP. start> programs> accessories> system tools> Disk Cleanup. Select "more options" and where it says "System Restore", select "clean up". That will delete all restore points except the most recent. Keep in mind that your pc periodically will make its own restore points even if you NEVER do. I recommend making one for yourself just before doing something radical, just in case you need to undo it. Once you've completely cleaned out your pc, I'd recommend making your own Restore Point, and then cleaning up the old ones again. ===== Furthermore, disk cleanups should be done every few days if not daily (or every few hours). For that matter, you should also clear your Firefox cache. Tools>Options>Privacy Clear "History" "Cookies" "Cache". BTW, when you have time, go to http://www.illwillpress.com/vault.html and select "Tech-Support". I think you'll recognize this situation. :)-->

Good to know. Norton and ZoneAlarm do not mix. Since WordWolf and Norton do not mix, I keep forgetting this. As it stands, I get better reports from users of several FREE antivirus programs than I do for Norton, which people pay for. In fact, one friend got frustrated with Norton and switched to AVG (which is free.) AVG AntiVir and Avast! all have free versions, and I regularly hear more stories of customer satisfaction from the users of each.

Thanks so much for the pics, and thanks for the notice here for the pics. :)-->

We discussed some of these in 2003/2004. Where were you?

Def59, I think you missed the place where Mike told you that if vpw had cited his sources in the backs of "his" books, that we would have died and wandered aimlessly in error.

]I'm interrupting what I WANTED to post next to comment on this. Mike, 2/2/04 12:17am. "When you see Christ in his glory he will be holding a PFAL book in his hand and teaching you from it." ("So, Mike, you weren't kidding about JC coming with a pfal book in his hand?") Mike, 2/3/04, 7:53pm. "Totally serious. I've already seen him this way more than once." ===== So, Mike, what are you trying to claim here-that the pfal books claimed it is NOT a future reality, but instead some Gnostic-leaning "special revelation" for today? ===== ===== BTW, Mike? A "rapture/gathering together" in the future IS what vpw taught, all the time! You're questioning it? =====

Until you have a firewall running, consider your computer to be, in effect, completely unprotected. I use ZoneAlarm. People who know more about computers than me have recommended Kerio. I like ZoneAlarm because it's kind to newbies. Here's a link for Kerio. http://www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html Select "download" and follow whatever instructions you get. Here's a link for ZoneAlarm. http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home2.jsp Select "Free ZoneAlarm and trials", then "Zone Alarm Free Download" Both programs offer a free version which is all you need for home use. (If you have DSL, eventually you'll want to add a router. Ask someone with a router to explain why.) I expect both will be self-explanatory in terms of installing. (ZoneAlarm certainly is.) ==== I recommend you download Windows Service Pack 2, right after you do everything you can to clean up the hard drive as it currently exists. (People with security holes and viruses are the ones who have most problems with SP2.)

He said things were going to happen that didn't. Scandals and serious accusations of corruption dogged his "ministry", especially sexual accusations. He lived with many luxuries, complete with planes. He plagiarized "his" work, and claimed it was revealed to him by God. He claimed it was revealed to him ALONE in this century. He claimed his "ministry" was the sole "one true church" today. He promised that financial success and an "abundant" life were there for people who followed his instructions. He died never having offered reparations or apologies to even SOME of the Christians whose lives he ruined. He died on January 16, 1986 at the age of 93. Another so-called "THE" man of God.

Ok, Mike invoked "Paul's time travel" again. 5 points to anyone who can guess the contents of my next post. :D--> ===== Mike, Sometimes, I think you can understand why we find the concept of Jesus Christ, in the presence of his Father, learning anything from a book when his Father is RIGHT THERE utterly ludicrous no matter what you or Johnny Cochran would say. Other times, I'm sure you'd never see it.

Apparently, these mysterious Arabians have the same obsession with their johnsons that lcm had, because 6:13 has that truly bizarre phraseology I winced at when I was watching the thing in an auditorium when we first saw it in NY.... Further, despite the Olympic games having sunk into wild corruption and vanishing a relatively short time after they started, these mysterious Arabians seem to have been utterly obsessed with them-using javelins, the discus, and so on, and not, say, the tulwar, the jambiya, the chakram-which they'd actually SEEN in use. They also ended up with the self-contradictory statement in 6:11... "Clothe yourself with all the equipment, trappings and gear of a gymnast..." Who here can explain what's contradictory about this? (I KNOW some of you can explain now that you've seen it...)

I sat thru 3 weeks of Advanced class, scrutinizing cg whenever he was visible, looking intently for signs of problems. I didn't find any, and he seemed both well-balanced and mentally healthy. Frankly, that's better than I seemed for that same time-frame. Mind you, I dont think anyone else's experiences-surreal and odd though they are- are in any way invented or exaggerated. I simply didn't see them. As has been pointed out, John Wayne Gacy wore a clown suit and played children's parties before he became a serial killer. I'm sure the people at those parties would have been shocked as well. No-I can't explain it either. It seems so strange. Of course, there it is, and my INability to account for reality doesn't change reality any. === Outandabout, thanks for explaining what was ON the tapes (and when it was sent.) I was still wondering.

But, Wayfers, normal or not, are not allowed to have their own words. This WAS their attempt to use their own words, and it was STILL loaded with twi advertising lingo. You expected otherwise? Non-confirmity is bad and to be avoided.

There's some question and speculation-which, of course, is not PROOF, just an idea-that this is tied into why he and his old denomination parted ways. This is only one idea among several. However, it is possible. If vpw wasn't "active" when he hijacked the hippies and the Jesus People movement, I'd be VERY surprised. It would be nice to get a confirmation of this from someone who was there, however.

Myself, I'm fairly confident that, technically, this is noy a copy/paste. However, in a PRACTICAL sense, it may as well be. You're forgetting all the repetition ad nauseum. If someone says something, it's going to be said over and over and over. It will never be checked for errors, just repeated over and over. Someone with no understanding of the word "practical" said that, and now EVERYONE says that. NEVER subject any utterance of a mog to scrutiny. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Otherwise, the house of cards falls down.

Which tape is this?

*cracks knuckles* Ok, this one I can answer. AdAware and Spybot:S & D are 2 programs you absolutely should have on any Windows-based pc. With Spybot, the first thing you do, you activate the "immunization" function (the little corner of bricks.) Remember to update weekly. Now, AdAware and Spybot work differently. AdAware scans everything in your system, looking for adware and the like, and grabs whatever it doesn't trust. That means when you see names flashing, that's the name of the file it's currently looking at. (That is, it's on your pc, but not necessarily a problem.) Spybot has a list of suspicious programs that hang out at conspicuous spots in your pc. It looks for each program on its list. That means when you see names flashing, that's the name of the file it's currently looking for. (That is, it's a problem, but not necessarily on your pc.) Make sure you've a decent, updated Firewall (not a Windows or Microsoft product) and a decent, updated antivirus, and you should be fine. Remember to run the antivirus often as well. Oh- and remember to delete old System Restores after a while, especially if you've cleaned out garbage from your system since then. Otherwise, you have "backups" of your viruses.

Well, these fine folks have to PAY to be there, don't they? I think I just figured out why this is being pushed. JT Ever known twi to abandon a moneymaking scheme on purpose?

I agree with Oldies' rundown of the contents of the books. I also agree with recommending unreservedly the SECOND book, "the Babylon Connection?" Woodrow spent so long repudiating things in his first book, however, that I felt his omission of what he had CORRECT was a lapse of judgement on his part. He did say that there were legitimate reasons to object to immorality and corruption, so claiming a connection to Babylonian worship was dishonest and unnecessary. However, that's the closest he came to saying that his previous comments-like one pope bringing his (DEAD) predecessor into court and putting him on trial being monstrous- were correct. Further, the claim Hislop MEANT to talk over the heads of his readers was incorrect, since EVERYBODY who wrote at the time wrote just like that. (Bullinger did-I have works by one or two others.) ======= I think the condemnation of the RCC-one of the biggest fish in Christianity (no pun intended) and the claims of conspiracy in "Babylon Mystery Religion"- not to mention its low price and easy-reading style- made it a perennial favourite for twi. It shouldn't be THAT big a surprise that some people who discover that its writer repudiated it as a whole, STILL cling to the earlier book, in twi and in some of the splinters.

I just checked Book 3, "the Word's Way", and I didn't find it anywhere in the Burnt Umber Book.

Darn-he beat me to it. "Babylon Mystery Religion" was written first. It was essentially a reader-friendly version of Reverend Alexander Hislop's book, "The Two Babylons". You can see that by looking Woodrow's book over. Despite his book being mostly contents reworded from another author's book, he handled things in an intellectually honest and legal fashion by FOOTNOTING and CITING his sources. According to someone here, to do that would be to distract from the contents of the book. I ask all of you: Were you ever, EVER, distracted from the contents of "Babylon Mystery Religion" by footnotes or citations? EVER? No, nobody else was, either. The sequel addressed how some people confused Woodrow for Hislop on different occasions. That wasn't Woodrow's fault-he made it clear who wrote what. Me? I owned a copy of both authors' books, plus the sequel when it came out. I was glad for Woodrow's book. Hislop's book was a LOT harder to read, since it wasn't user-friendly. Writers writing in the timeframe of EW Bullinger and Alexander Hislop were writing with the expectation that only other academics would be reading their books. The idea that the average schmoe would want to wasn't even a consideration. So, if you think they're TRYING to talk over your head, understand they had no idea you were invited to the party. ==== Mind you, the fact that Woodrow's correct use of citations and sources did NOT detract from "his message" should put to death the lie that vpw refrained from doing so to prevent a loss of "his message". (It SHOULD put that to death, but zealots are rarely swayed by evidence. For that matter, Baghdad Bob's broadcasts that US forces were nowhere near Bagdad had artillery barrages audible in the background.)

Bothered you too, eh? Seems some people would rather overlook the coginitive dissonance generated by the internal inconsistency of such things. vpw decided to rewrite the rules to his convenience rather than demonstrate intellectual honesty. Some would rather silence the truth and forget the past....

They were pretty successful at it, too. Some people still worship that idol....

Well, because it ISN'T, that's why. Each item mentioned in Ephesians 6:10-17 was an item worn in warfare, either as a weapon, or as armour. ===== lcm ran with it ad nauseum because he had 2 skill-sets. The one he learned from twi was how to shout orders. The one he learned before twi was athletics. So, his mindset was athletics no matter WHAT happened. (Having learned to read on comic books, an early mindset of mine was "superhero", but you don't see ME forcing everything to conform to that...) vpw actually started that. Of course, this being vpw, he got it from somewhere else, and pretended it was his own. The Fellowship of Christian Athletes originated the term "Athletes of the Spirit". I imagine lcm introduced it to vpw. I heard something about lcm being in that group in college. Exactly what lcm picked up from them, and what lcm passed to vpw, I have no idea. Somewhere in there, or in vpw's imagination, the whole of Ephesians 6 went into athletics- the "sword" became a javelin, the "shield" became a discus, and so on. twi's own Aramaic Interlinear rendered them as weapons. The Stephens and Nestle Texts (Greek) render them as weapons. In fact the "whole armour" is "panoplian" in the Greek. Specifically, that's the complete gear a Roman soldier carried. I had no difficulty understanding this. I was a fencer, and ALL my gear-swords, mask, uniform-all fit in one bag slung over the shoulder. (It also can double as a light luggage bag, but I wouldn't recommend it.) Ephesians 6:10-17 was a war-equipment metaphor.

You don't mean to suggest that Wierwille ripped off some other people's work and claimed it was revelation, do you? You don't mean to suggest that Wierwille didn't have the brains to recognize a conspiracy theory when it came up and bit him in the sit-upon, do you? You don't mean to suggest that virtually all of wierwille's claims of divine revelation were completely bogus, and just made to smokescreen the sources he plagiarized, do you? ===== If you don't, then I do, at any rate. "You don't see it? Too bad-I do!"- lcm, in his wap feeble attempt to explain art and the Original Sin.

Funny how that happened. The "chapter and verse, please" approach was one of the things that I liked the most. However, it's amazing how often that came up in the homes, yet how rarely that came up at the root locales. I myself was chided for recommending that teenagers "sit around and read The Word" rather than spend time in the Blue Book and the other SIALs. That was from a corpse grad.