WordWolf

Ok, just going from the original trilogy, and a few extrapolations in the X-Wing series and "Shadows of the Empire (takes place just before RotJ).... Tatooine pilots are thought of as great "bush pilots". (Biggs mentions this in Episode 4.) Luke raced swoops around (like motorcycles), and he did most of his flying in his T-16 skyhopper. (Episode 4, the Death Star attack briefing. "It's not impossible. I used to bulleye womp-rats in my T-16 back home.") Tatooine pilots get a reputation for being able to maneuver fighters into tight trenches like on the Death Star. That's because they learned to fly, then hotdogged around thru Beggar's Canyon (seen briefly in the Pod Race, Episode I). Luke mentioned it to Biggs in the Death Star run, Episode 4. (("Just like Beggar's Canyon back home.") As has been mentioned in tech manuals, bush pilots often pick up piloting X-Wings quickly because a T-16 skyhopper's controls are almost identical to the X-Wing controls. I forget if Incom makes both. === The key to Anakin's piloting skills is that he had "Jedi reflexes" (Episode 1.) Anakin flew like a mutha in both Episodes 1 and 2. He seemed to have a habit for hotdogging by the time Episode 2 came out. "I hate it when he does that".-Obi-Wan. Jedi pilots have 2 advantages. One, enhanced reflexes. Two, as explained in Episode 1, their Force-sense allows them to detect obstacles and problems before they appear. The maximum potential of a Jedi to do either is determined by practice, inborn specialization (his body has an affinity to this SPECIFIC Force-skill) and the overall strength of his Force potential. As seen in Episode 1, a Jedi's Force potential is determined by his Midiflorine level. As seen in Episode 1, Anakin's Midiflorine level is off the top of the charts. As seen in Episode 1, Anakin's been practicing skills related to piloting, which allowed his inborn Force abilities a chance to emerge. Therefore, although he'd become a much better pilot after Episode 1, during it, even as a child, he was above-average. So, Obi-Wan's statement on his piloting skills makes sense. =========== Ok, the exchange from "I, Jedi". It was a conversation between Jedi Master Luke Skywalker, and soon-to-be-Jedi Knight Keiran Halcyon. Halcyon had training and experience both as a policeman/soldier, and as a pilot, especially an X-Wing pilot. Luke had mentioned a few things he'd been taught "from a certain point of view", and used Darth Vader's redemption as an example that even Sith Lords could be redeemed, and weren't completely evil. Luke presented the struggle between the light and dark sides as a battle between monolithic entities that one had to be aware of, in the academy/praxeum. As he prepared to leave, Keiran explained how he disagreed with Luke. Keiran said some distinctions were much finer. He gave examples like refusing a huge bribe to not arrest someone, and not killing his father's murderer "while resisting arrest", and other things he'd succeeded at. He said Luke's training specifically channelled him into black/white thinking because that's what Obi-Wan/Yoda wanted. He said they knew Luke would someday want to meet his biological father. They knew Luke was ready to submit his application to the Imperial Academy on Carida. The name "Skywalker", on an application from Tatooine, was bound to get notice. Possibly the usage of Tatooine-where Kenobi was known to operate from-was meant to explain why some vague references to Kenobi might be found. However, "from a certain point of view", it all could be seen as preparing Luke to be a weapon to be used against Darth Vader. I think that was the essence of the discussion.

Then they get so darned mad when they can't perform what they say they can do. Friggin idiots.. UNTRUE! twi blames the PERSON, regardless of the situation. If there's no jobs in an area, and the person can't get a job, it's "lack of believing". If the person gets sick because they got insufficient sleep working a fulltime job plus a parttime job travelling to mandatory meeting all the time, it's "lack of believing." So, twi claims it always delivers on its promises- the problem is its slaves fail to deliver on what twi claims they can accomplish, no matter how impossible the benchmark.

He was- Bob has experienced your posts before. Besides, my INITIAL post asked for your opinion and what you thought was vital-no need to quote my restating it and start over. Your previous posts seemed to indicate you understood the request and responded accordingly. I thought you deliberately chose not to tubthump this time out of politeness. Well, you showed me.

Feeling inquisitive tonight? I also thought it might be handy to have a list like this in case someone ever sat down and wrote a bio on him for the main site. It would help new arrivals figure out why twi was so messed up.

Steve! may have gotten it from a comedian. One comedian once was sent to buy them, and, while he was in the checkout line, he saw a gay guy looking at him. "I was never so glad to be buying pads in all my life. Miss? Can we get a price check on these PADS? We all know they're not for ME..."

"Fish heads are never seen in cafes, drinking capuccino with Oriental women." -Barnes and Barnes. It's a line that stays with you.

Goey's recommended the Kerio firewall. I've been happy with ZoneAlarm. I can name other firewalls, but I don't have experience with them, so I'd go with Goey's recommendation. Since ZA doesn't work for you.

I'd have to go back and see if Leia meant Bail Organa's wife as her mother. Anakin Skywalker won the podraces and survived his first space battle in Phantom Menace. Rather good pilots would have managed neither. Interesting about the lightsabre. We'll have to wait and see. If you want to read some comments about giving Luke the last name Skywalker, and why he was on Tatooine, they're in "I, Jedi", by Michael Stackpole. Keiran Halcyon, at the Jedi Academy/Praxeum, offers his thoughts to Luke on that very subject. (It's more fun if you've read the Jedi Academy trilogy first, since this book references a lot of the events.)

There's a few reasons for this thread. The first one is so that new arrivals can see it. The second was so I could get a cross-section of things, and see what people thought would be vital to include, were they writing a thumbnail sketch of the guy.

What you called "Dream Deferred" is probably the poem by Langston Hughes, called "Harlem". "What happens to a dream deferred?..." It's quoted at the beginning of "Raisin in the Sun."

Hm. So, then, "spiritual anger" is anger from the OTHER kind of spirit........

Raf got it pretty quick. I didn't even use my follow-up quote, the much more recognizable "Kill him a lot!" or the "you threw a knife at me" scene. The first exchange was when one guy had just become a vampire, and his friend doesn't know-but his pal is floating outside his window. The second quote was the Principal, at the Senior Dance with all the senior vampires crashing. As they burst in, "I have a pocket FULL of detention slips-and I'm not afraid to use them!" After they're all killed, he walks up to each vampire corpse, drops a detention slip on it, and announces, "Detention...detention...detention..." Are you there, Pirate?

My God is not that small. If it weren't for Victor Paul Wierwille, my God would have found another way to show me the things I've learned. TF, to quote vpw, "If my God was as small as your God, I'd get me a new God."

While we're waiting, here's a semi-easy one.... "I'm HUNGRY!" "You're FLOATING!!" "Detention...detention....detention...."

That's ANOTHER crime to lay to his account! :D-->

I agree. Even if I didn't, I'd say "Pirate, next one please".

Marilyn Monroe Love Happy Raymond Burr (You guys don't know how tough it was resisting the urge to link to Harpo or Groucho this turn.... :)--> )

If someone who was new to twi/had been invited and was thinking of attending a meeting, or someone who was trying to figure out what the organization is all about, asked you to explain victor paul wierwille, what would you want to make sure they knew about him? What was his youth like, his pre-ministry days? What about his time from college-Vesper Chimes? All the stuff after that? What would be relevant if someone was writing a biography on him, or a "true stories", or whatever? Let's say you were asked to write a biographical sketch of the man so that others-who'd never heard of him-could understand him in one read. What would you write?

John Hurt Spaceballs John Candy

Molly Ringwald Breakfast Club Emilio Estevez

If I can pick up after Steve! (but mindful of that) I would say Bram Stoker's Dracula Gary Oldman Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

You're probably thinking of the guy who played "Bill S. Preston", but that wasn't Sean Penn. Please reboot, Trefor.

We did not "all go thru it" because there were hundreds of different "it"s. Some left during mass exoduses, and thus had a support network. Some left with their families, and thus brought their nearest and dearest. Some were in areas where they lived in the middle of nowhere and could drop off the radar. Some were in the military and twi couldn't pin them in place for a number of reasons. For some out on the field, to leave will mean they can't work for their current employer (they "work for believers"), they have to move immediately (they "rent from believers"), and, having been isolated from everyone they know OUTSIDE of twi, they're now isolated from everyone IN twi who are now saying horrible things about them. Yeah, go ahead, leave. You've been "living at a needs level" and thus have no savings and your most expensive possession is a beat-up car that will die sooner or later. But, buck up! You have no friends, no contacts, no job, no place to live, and no money. However, you have PLATITUDES! === Hiya folks! You say you lost your job today? You say it's 4am and your kids ain't come home from school yet? You say your wife went out for a corned-beef sandwich last week, and the corned-beef sandwich came back but she didn't? You say your furniture's out all over the sidewalk 'cause you can't pay the rent? And ya got chapped lips and paper-cuts, and your feets all swollen up and blistered from pounding the pavement looking for work? Is that what's troublin' you...fella? *marching music* Well, lift your head up high and take a walk in the sun with dignity and stick-to-it-iveness and ya show the world, ya show the world where to get off. You'll never give up, never give up, never give up....*music stops*..that ship! Hey there, friend. You say your radiators didn't work all winter, and now that it's summer they've started up again and you can't turn it off? You say your wide sent your lightweight suits to the cleaners, and that means you'll have to wear your itchy tweeds this morning, when they say it'll hit 106, and ya gotta meet an important businessman in an hour, and your bridge just broke, and you pasted it together with bubblegum and ya hope it don't fall apart while you're doin' some fast-talkin' to this man. and.... and your shoelace just busted and you opened up a big cut on your cheek tryin' to even out your side-burns and your daughter's going out with a convict and your wife just confessed she gave your last $60 as a deposit on an airplane hanger? Is that what's troublin' you...friend? *marching music* Well, lift your head up high and take a walk in the sun with dignity and stick-to-it-iveness and ya show the world, ya show the world where to get off. You'll never give up, never give up, never give up...*music stops*...that ship! Hey there, cousin. You say you can't pull your car out of the mud, and you're in the middle of nowhere, and it's pouring rain, and ya can't get the top back up, and your paycheck's all blurred, and your foot went right thru the gaspedal, and your girl's screaming bloody-murder she's scared of the dark, and a stroke of lightning splits your motor in half, and your suit's shrinking up fast, and you start up the windy road in foot, and 60 yards of barbed-wire hits you right smack in the face and a wild animal comes over and runs away with your shoes and your car blows up suddenly and your windshield wiper ends up in yer mouth and you can't move, and the mud's risin' up to yer nostrils, and yer sinkin' fast, and you don't hear yer girl screamin' any more? Is that what's on yer mind....cousin? *marching music* Well, lift your head up high and take a walk in the sun with dignity and stick-to-it-iveness and ya show the world, ya show the world where to get off. You'll never give up, never give up, never give up..*music stops*..that ship! And now, this is the Old Philosopher saying, So long, folks! ===== As to people who are on grounds, their situation is detailed here http://www.greasespotcafe.com/waydale/edit.../prisoners.html (he said, posting it AGAIN on the same thread.)

Aaaand, for the second time in the same thread to answer the same question by the same person, this link.... http://www.greasespotcafe.com/waydale/edit.../prisoners.html

Page 6, this thread, April 15m 2005, 9:13am Eastern. Page 1, this thread, April 12, 2005, 4:56pm Eastern. There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza. There's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, a hole.... (For those wondering, there were a few pages of answers to this, this actually being a DISCUSSION on that very subject. Those of you who READ the thread know this.)