WordWolf

I'm just surprised none of you has a nametag with your screenname on it. Me, I've had one for years. Of course, I use it for stuff off the GSC, but still.

I might wonder where Ralph Dubosky and Vince Finnegan are relative to this list. I am jealous, however, that I'm not on this list. :D-->

There's another virus making the rounds. Since you downloaded all the critical Windows updates, and updated your anitivirus, you should be perfectly safe from it. (If you didn't, I'd get moving.)

PJB is a big boy. He can make up his own mind. He's made it clear that he does not WISH to take advice to keep his legal strategies out of their lawyers' hands, nor does he wish to try to end this by being more morally perfect than the hypocrites that sued him. So, let him have his fun. If it turns out to be expensive, time-consuming fun, well, it's still his fun. Some people spend all their lives playing EverQuest, too.

I thought this about summed it up for me.

I am SO surprised "chair-stringing" didn't make the list. Or polishing all the brass in the auditorium, had to have a spit-shine on that, I noticed. Awful high-maintenance, but it looked nice, and that's what it was all about.... I suppose the other tasks made those look interesting. I made one task of stacking bananas interesting (I had volunteered accidentally- sarcasm was no excuse) by doing the one thing I was reminded of. I sang the banana boat song. I had the distinct impression that several people stopped by, looked in, and elected to leave me alone. I got more done, more quickly, that way. (I DID stop periodically to do the hand-signal for the tarantula, but other than that, I kept a brisk pace.)

====================== Agreed, I think that's how it started.... Would it have been so hard to lay down one of the famous "holy edicts" as soon as it was spotted, rather than utilized as a tool to convince people to climb the ladder a little higher? OTHER organizations (NON-CHRISTIAN organizations, even) have no difficulty keeping members from ascribing additional "rank" amongst themselves by adding symbols....even the young and impressionable ones who are college-age like twi used to target...

"Excuse Me, I Play The Banjo" is shorter and says the same thing. :P-->

So much for your in-depth spiritual perception and awareness! If you were REALLY spiritual, you would have EXACTLY THREE holes in your jacket or shirt. One on the left for a Holy Spirit Dove pin or WOW pin, two on the right for a nametag. If you had skillz, you could poke them thru the same holes each time. Especially since, with all the "material abundance" we were promised from "Christians Should Be Prosperous", we didn't have too many "nice" clothes, so the same meetings meant the same outfits....

No. Right now, the biggest precautions you should take is to keep updating the programs you have (critical Windows updates, AdAware, antivirus, Spybot, firewall). There's some vulnerabilities you can close pretty easily. http://grc.com/freepopular.htm "Shoot the messenger" has nothing to do with "instant messengers" like AIM or ICQ. It shuts off the internal messenger that Microsoft sends you almost no info on, and is usually hijacked to send you ads. "Unplug n' Pray" has nothing to do with "Plug and Play", the nifty thing that helps you use stuff after a simple download. It shuts off that utility you will never use-the theoretical thing that can potentially connect your computer to your tv, dvd-player, cd-player, videogame system, microwave oven, and venetian blinds. It's another security vulnerability. If you work on a network, you may use DCOM. If you have a home pc, it's useless. DCOMbobulator shuts off that security flaw. SocketLock lowers the vulnerability of your pc to hackers. If they get in, they can do a LOT less damage, because they can take over less. You won't even miss it. All of these are tiny, tiny programs, each of which makes your pc more secure. I also downloaded "NoShare" since I don't want networks to have access to my machine. Again, haven't noticed a problem resulting from it. When you're all done, go back to http://www.grc.com and "shields up". You can then test all your new security to see what the average hacker might succeed or fail at. Hm. "Baseline Security Analyzer". That sounds useful... Also, next time you open your Spybot, click on the corner of bricks thing on the left menu. It will set up a permanent immunity to some of the worst programs. See? Painless, and adds to security.

================================ Get out! ZERO intrusions? NOBODY even tried to probe-scan you in passing? (I get a LOT of those. They can't confirm there's a computer on my end, and they go away.) Ok, we can get to "other security measures" soon...

Nicely symbolic, too. Stolen, Made of rotting materials Off-balance Continually being propped-up

Trying to stick to the main topic.... All I've got is speculation and supposition based on first-hand accounts. I do not suspect he physically abused her, hit her, etc. I think we're talking about the other kinds, though. I suspect he used the "carrot-and-stick" approach- loving, but insistent that things go exactly in accordance with his whims, or she would get a lot of grief. My suspicion is that, primarily, it was NOT about money for her. However, this is all speculation, and I can't exactly interrogate her.

Well, that makes it hearsay, in and of itself. If someone sees the post, and replies, saying, "Yes, I was on-staff, and vpw told me personally that my mrs would be a lot more co-operative if I backhanded her every once in a while", then that would be another thing entirely. This might be considered a request for those who might have such testimony to step forward.

Interesting. My thinking, however, is to remember that, sadly, there have been plenty of people who've attempted to lead God's people astray, in following after fornication, and simony, and love of filthy lucre, starting with the sons of Eli and through the present day (if the Lord tarry, there will be more tomorrow). vpw and his criminal band are/were small potatoes in the scheme of things. 100 years from now, (if the Lord tarry), I expect people to still mention BG Leonard, George Mueller, EW Bullinger, EW Kenyon and JE Stiles, but not the slick salesman on the farm that ripped off their material, nor the organization that he dedicated to feeding his own desires. For the sake of the Christians they encounter, I hope the splinter groups grow past his own self-serving doctrines and practices, and follow after CHRIST instead.

I agree. As twi puts it, apparently He that is in you is NOT greater than He that is in the world, I John 4 notwithstanding. twi people are huddled together in clusters around the organization, afraid to make the slightest mistake and revoke the protection of the Almighty thereby, allowing the devil to immediately swoop in and do horrible things to them. That's a far cry from the Christian depicted in the old pfal Session 7 & 8, the Ambassador for Jesus Christ, with Christ in him, that many of us were "sold" and, apparently, later forbidden from seeing. That's an especially miserable thing to compare against the average Christian, interacting in those average churches that twi claims to be head and shoulders above and beyond. That's two entirely different subjects, however.

"Logical Fallacy: Two Wrongs Make a Right, aka Tu quoque: A charge of wrongdoing is answered by a rationalization that others have sinned, or might have sinned. War atrocities and terrorism are often defended this way." That was courtesy of "Don Lindsay's List of Fallacious Arguments". One might also add "on the GSC, rape, molestation, and plagiarism are often defended this way." (Mostly by one poster not on this thread currently.)

I don't know where you read that. Like Young's Concordance, they CARRIED the thing, but you could BUY it anywhere. Why would Zondervan agree to limit the distribution like that? You can fricking buy them in Barnes & Noble if you want. (Or online at Barnes & Noble.com..not like I'm advertising.)

Schuks, If you don't like what we post here, the simple solution is: don't visit. If you DON'T want to discuss twi, why did you show up in the "About the Way" forum? That's what this forum is FOR, you know. Go ahead and post in another forum, or go to another board on another website. Nobody's forcing you to eat at this cafe if you don't like the menu....

True, but that proves nothing in and of itself. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

Most of the time, I don't think or speak of the guy, myself. Keep in mind that some people are new here and need healing, and many will need discussion of that sort of thing. (Sometimes it's like AA here, you know? Some people NEED the discussion.) Otherwise, I see no need to bring it up every 30 seconds either. Then again, I just go to another messageboard for THAT....

Once a day, I run AdAware, Spybot, an anti-virus, and anything else I can find. Usually, I do that once my internet connection is shut down. AdAware's got 2 commands-"Engage Internet lock" and "Stop all Internet activity" that instantly stop things, or you can just shut your connection. If you're paranoid, you can run all those immediately once you think you've caught a virus or spyware. Once a month, I run an external antivirus, just in case everything somehow missed it. Clean bill of health so far with my current security, but, I feel secure knowing that. I update the heck out of my security, also. I've never had to crack open my registry.

Hm. Got busy and missed this thread. :)--> *reads* ROTFLMAO! (rolling on the floor, laughing my asparagus off) [translation for Parsley] Shaz, I had NO idea that was you until a few minutes ago! :)--> I'm glad my sense of humour came through. Actually, I said I looked like Raf "in bad lighting", but apparently Steve heard it as "sideways" since I was in a hurry. Badmouthing people behind their backs misses all the fun of seeing their faces. Thus, Raf knew he was safe. :)--> For the record, I was prepared to happily pay retail for a GSC t-shirt. :)--> Raf, the place serves sushi also, but I felt that NOT having the Chinese food would have broken tradition. :)--> If you guys ever come down to NYC, I've got lots of ideas for restaurants.... If you want to make a weekend of it, there's plenty of stuff to do....

That's interesting... I designed the THIRD option specifically FOR Oldies....and somebody else....to guarantee they had an honest representation. I'll have to try harder with my next poll.

Redemption isn't about the current or future mental condition of the old man. It's all about Christ's sacrifice, and one's acceptance of His lordship and resurrection... ==================== Here's one time I agree with Oldies. Being Born Again is not a forcefield protecting you here and now from all temptations, etc. You DO have a "natural resistance", but not an "immunity". That's still free-will. If you ASK, God will really go to bat for you. If you follow His instructions and "touch not the unclean thing", your potential for harm is minimized. All accounts I've read-authenticated ones- concerning full-possession all have one thing in common: occult activity in the past Don't fiddle around with the occult, don't fiddle with drugs, stay off alcohol (a toast is one thing, drunkenness is something else), and possession should be effectively impossible for you. You never left an unlocked door open for an intrusion. Christians are harder to possess than non-Christians, first of all. They also can call on deliverance, and they should know what to watch out for. So, much less common for many reasons, but not impossible. =================== Raf, didn't you get their message? Someone wishes to read your articles! (Otherwise, why an opinion.) Obviously, they want access to them!