WordWolf

I think the other discussion's pretty much run its course, based on the recent derail attempts. So, a related discussion. I know lcm is still alive, but I'm not addressing his present PRIMARILY (although you are welcome to do so on this thread.) I want to know about his PAST- from his time thru college to his history after college. If someone was trying to get a grasp on who this former president of twi was and why discussions of twi mention him, what would you tell them? If someone was writing up a short biography on the man, what would you want to make sure they included? All viewpoints are welcome- but please try to stick to the TOPIC of lcm-his life and history. That is, if you don't think this thread serves any real purpose, just ignore it and let those who see relevance to it post on it. Thank you all so much (in advance).

This post from earlier in the thread addressed what vpw thought about other people's opinions, and it didn't even go into how he insisted on being called "THE Teacher" and his preference for the "Dr" thing.

I think there's a few people who'd remember me in 20 years if I died today, who aren't related to me...remember me in a memorializing way, NOT the way vpw is remembered. I'd rather be forgotten than have his legacy behind me. "As special as vpw?" Well, Torquemada is still being talked about centuries after HE died, and, wonder of wonders, it's NOT because he was such a committed Christian. A) It's been made clear vpw was primarily concerned with what some people thought of him. B) What makes you think this discussion is about what matters to HIM? Or to those who care that he ruined lives, practiced simony, perverted the office of minister, did so in a premeditative fashion, and sculpted his successor into twofold the child of hell that HE was. Any good I got from him was paid for dearly by the crushed hearts of my sisters and brothers in Christ. I find that unconscionable. I just did. Someone claimed to represent the true God, and siphoned the life from my spiritual family like some movie vampire. Why anyone would claim this ISNT what's bugging me is beyond me-unless they want to draw attention from the fact that vpw raped and molested Christians in his flock, and was only stopped from doing it more by lingering illness and an early death. If THAT was my concern, this would be a STUPID place to spend time. Besides, my own legacy has nothing to do with twi nor this messageboard. Could you possibly be MORE mistaken about me? I've even posted my reasons on this thread. Are you THAT poor a reader? Oh-I forgot who I was addressing. You ARE that poor a reader, based on how completely you've mischaracterized me before. I've got a question for you. What did you smoke that led you to think that had anything to do with this discussion? You're free to believe that, but the evidence does not support your belief. It shows that he did his best to fashion a public persona and have thousands of people revere and adore him.

Correct, "DC Cab." Which quote gave it away for you? (I'm just curious.) Odd that the name came up on another thread after I'd been dropping quotes....

Nothing that recent.

No need- I usually don't find much to argue about when it comes to that site. Usually anything that isn't doctrinal/opinion is well-documented.

Bob said this about twi's revenue policies (bloodsucking): Hope R. added the following:

Thanks, signals. There's a variety of his nicknames scattered around the "Greasespot-speak" thread in the Greasespot 101 forum.

About 100,000 people have signed up for pfal. If you think back, that's how many people paid their money and gave their names, not how many made it to Session 1. That's also not how many people made it to Session 12, and not how many stuck around AFTER. Just counting my first pfal, 8 people were signed up as new students, including me. 7 of us showed up for Session 1. 3 of us completed Session 12. (Me and 2 people in twi families.) So, saying there were 100,000 people or more IN twi is more than an exaggeration.

What we need are OBJECTIVE standards for geekdom. http://www.innergeek.us/ http://www.armory.com/tests/geek.html http://www.student.ipfw.edu/~simodk01/Geek.htm http://www.coolquiz.com/life/geek/ http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=750711297364726891

I think I have a cheap $2 pair of the ears SOMEWHERE. Never actually planned to USE them, just thought they'd be handy to have. I know there are people who make Klingon batleth "swords", but I can't see buying a prop the price of a used car. ==== The thing I thought about the McFlys-other than the inbred community thing- was that the guys in the family must all seem to like women looking one specific way. (No, I don't think that's very sensible, but that's the best explanation I had.)

Quote 2... "I see Bruce Lee!" Quote 3.... "Tell me you're still wearing your Daddy's boots!"

Quote 2... "I see Bruce Lee!"

Since he didn't post one, here's another..... "Tell him we're Batman!"

Paul Newman the Color of Money Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio

In order of importance, as I see it.... A) To provide information so new people don't get caught in twi. "In vain is the snare set in sight of any bird." B) To provide information so people in twi can see there's BETTER life OUTSIDE twi. C) To provide information so people who are out of twi, but twi is not out of THEM, can get past it. (Yes, when people can leave here feeling they've accomplished all they can, it's a sign it's working.) D) To hang out with people who survived the same experiences. E) For interesting conversation. F) To feel young-most of the posters are older than me, and most places I post, it's the other way around! -->

It was FIVE graduates, not 9. That's why they've taken to announcing assignments in PERCENTAGES, so they don't have to give hard numbers and show how few there are. (Which is why some people still can find ways to believe twi isn't hemorrhaging members.) BTW, signals, I'd consider it a personal favour if you didn't speak ill of wolves or werewolves. Alpha wolves GUARD their pack, and don't bloodsuck them like ticks. Alpha wolves are always the FIRST to face danger, and will do so FOR their pack. As for werewolves, most of them would be horrified by vpw's behaviour. Ever see the short-lived tv series Wolf Lake? It has been said of the characters that it was one of the more family-oriented shows on the networks, and the families weren't even human-in fact, they were more protective of their families and communities than humans are. :D--> So, I ask you, please, be a pal. Thanks.

When asked why he chose lcm, vpw said that it was a matter of loyalty-lcm would just do whatever vpw told him to do. Walter, apparently, thought for himself. Plus, Walter was not considered a dynamic speaker. (Too much substance, not enough style.) So, vpw chose lcm because lcm was the most rabid bootlicker to vpw, and had style that suited vpw. Since lcm's SUBSTANCE was nonexistent, this was the beginning of the end. Even vpw didnt see just how low the organization would stoop afterwards- the former Mrs W is now living in a "home" because she's outlived her usefulness to twi and thus is too expensive to support (despite her lending them legitimacy all those years.)

Great job, Outin88! You won't mind being quoted on that later, will you?

Which, of course, might just have been the normal result of normal business. Sad to say, but businesses close all the time, all over the world. The closings there MAY be related, or may NOT. Impossible to say without more information.

The consensus around here, signals, is that the people at the top of twi now most prize money and comfort. Since twi's assets are mostly tied up in the "non-profit" organization, they have to keep the thing intact on paper and at least PRETEND to care about people in order to keep it-and their cash cow-alive. With it alive, they have 5-hour workweeks, cushy salaries, indentured servants doing all their chores and cooking all their meals, full health coverage, and so on. So, they want to keep it intact as long as humanly possible, because otherwise they "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs". They can't just put all the money in a suitcase and flee the country.

It's mostly agreed-upon here that, with vpw at the helm, you pretty much had a free ride at twi if: -you had a title like a PhD -you were famous, like on a sports team -you were a military officer -you had money -you held a public office -you were influential in your local community -you were in the immediate family of one of the above You WERE expected, at some point, to have a visible presence in twi, at the very least, be willing to be "name-dropped" often. Some people still seem unable to imagine that others' lives were destroyed while they and their family were treated quite nicely. Looks like you've figured out something they haven't.

Hello, signals. Fear not-this site goes thru cycles. A lot of sites are quiet now, and this one will get busy again soon enough. Apparently, you missed out on the entire lcm and rfr eras (to date, anyway), so you missed the lawsuits and so many other things. We've discussed them all and they're around here somewhere. :)--> The main site for the GSC has some editorials, and documents and articles. I strongly recommend reading them all over the coming months if you want to really get information. These also include audio clips of things like saying someone died because a family member left twi. You'll notice this is about as egalitarian a place as you can find on the internet. Whereas some things would get you banned or suspended on other places, Pawtucket allows for a free exchange of ideas. As a result, you'll see things you don't normally see in one place. You'll see people who think vpw is STILL the greatest man since the apostle Paul if not greater than Paul. You'll see people who believe all religion is slavery and superstition. You'll see people who think pfal is still the greatest class of all time. You'll see people who've worked behind the scenes on staff. You'll see people who blindly defended twi, and some who still do. You'll see people whose lives were destroyed by vpw, lcm, rfr or others-PERSONALLY. You'll see people who wish vpw was alive today so he could be thrown in prison and sodomized. You'll see people who think that's too lenient. You'll see people who've put it all behind them, people who are still in twi, and people trying to figure out what happened to themselves. You'll even see some never-been-twi, here for their own reasons. Paw welcomes them all, sorta. Good manners are always appreciated, staying on topic is always appreciated, but neither is the rule or even common here. Raf will be along soon to offer you some coffee. :)-->

Steamboat Willie? Gold Rush? Nosferatu?