WordWolf

A) On lots of threads, lots of ex-twi have talked about how much better their lives have been since twi, and sometimes about how God's given them results since twi. Mike has missed all of that- probably for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman. B) I don't need specifics of Mike's testimony, since he's already given me the biggest detail. In spite of a recent attempt to spin-doctor it, Mike started a thread with the goal of answering the question "Why don't we see miracles and lots of prayers answered anymore?" If it was a thread where the opening post was "actually, we see EVEN MORE", then that would be different. So, no, he's got squat. C) Mike's been trying to claim that Session 1 of pfal- and the books adapting it- didn't have vpw bring up material abundance and promise material abundance... despite the fact that they do, very obviously and blatantly. Someone's looking to LOWER THE BAR OF EXPECTATIONS. So, what's the complete picture? Lots of people have happiness, some prosperity, and answers to prayers- and Mike insists they don't. Mike's got little of those- and insists on getting cagey in discussing them. Where others have freely given testimony, he's said we have to earn his testimony- which, again, means he's got squat, otherwise he's be waving it around as proof his doctrine isn't all platitudes, smoke and mirrors. Mike's trying to say his alleged "pfal" doctrine isn't supposed to guarantee MATERIAL ABUNDANCE (in spite of insinuating exactly that all over Session 1)- because Mike doesn't have it and can't guarantee it despite himself. What's next- the holy Amway?

Right. Sylvester Stallone directed this. He once went on TV and said Travolta got in shape for this movie a lot faster than Stallone did for "Rocky." Supposedly, Stallone's hotel room was below Travolta's, and at all hours, Stallone could hear tapping and other sounds that meant Travolta was dancing.

When lcm saw "Staying Alive", he saw the show-within-the-movie "Satan's Alley." Being as original as vpw, he decided that twi could do that, but better. So, he began planning the 2-hour "Athletes of the Spirit." If you watch the movie, you'll find a number of things that lcm just plain ripped off from that sequence.

Ok, got it now. This is "STAYING ALIVE." It's the sequel to "Saturday Night Fever."

The context is so obvious. vpw was expounding on how the people at schools he went to were "top men in their fields" and how he got a superior education, oh, and how he took all of Moody's correspondence classes that he could. No comments on what he learned from any of them. no comments about what any covered, no substance from the entire experience. It's as if his entire exposure to Moody's correspondence classes started and ended with his claim that he took them. Then, as it turns out, Moody confirmed he didn't complete any of their classes- that was proven, and they are unable to prove he even signed up for any- because they didn't keep records of incomplete classes for decades. So, zero impact on him except to say he took the classes, and documentation shows he completed NONE, and no documentation to show he even applied for one (which, by itself, proves nothing, but IN THE CONTEXT OF THE REST, says a lot.) What conclusions would a reasonable person draw? Would they say Moody was lying or their records were in error? Would they say he started a bunch of their classes but didn't finish them? This is a man who was incredibly cheap financially. Would he PAY for a single class he didn't finish and get the credit? Would they say he was interested only in the study of the material? This was a man who went out of his way to AVOID studying material, and whose only strengths were in plagiarizing and in presenting sermons. So, NO, this is not a man who would have taken their classes, let along left them incomplete. This is a man who would FAKE taking their classes, to claim to know the material, and claim the cachet of the classes. As above, who would check on a ridiculous lie like that? He faked his way through everything he could, and got the credentials he could buy.

BTW, If someone's trying to push the idea that they understand God better than I do, and that I should study with them or under them, and one of the things they're trying to explain is why they aren't seeing miracles in their lives, they're not going to get far with me. If you're not seeing miracles, and you're supposedly a Christian, I'll tell you this for free- if you're looking to blame God Almighty, you're looking to place the blame where it doesn't belong.

In "vp and me", lcm documented vpw telling one corps class they were all kicked out, then quietly allowed them individually to rejoin, provided they swore more loyalty to him. According to lcm, MOST of them chose to do so. The WOW program was remarkable for twi for not only being a free sales force for twi classes and tithing, not only for providing their own transportation and lodging wherever they were TOLD to go, but for PAYING for the privilege! It cost money to go WOW.

Correct! Close enough, anyway. 1) His dad WAS Fred Sanford. 2) He was among friends and had a heart attack. They were so sure he was fooling that they delayed getting an ambulance.

I wouldn't bother asking his dad's name if you couldn't at least guess it. And it's 2 "x"s and 2 "d"s, Redd Foxx.

I'll go with the other and guess STEVE MARTIN.

In his final hours, vpw was seen searching his memory, determined to find some imperfection in his life in which God Almighty disapproved. He was unable to find it. vpw went to his grave feeling NO remorse for being a sexual predator, let alone drunk, false prophet, etc.

Mike: "You are too much the stickler on exact vocabulary." Whatever happened to "mathematical exactness and scientific precision", and "God has a purpose for everything He says, how He says it, to whom He says it..." vpw pushed being a stickler on exact vocabulary. Of course, since he was wrong, we don't have to obsess, but since you insist he was right, you're supposed to agree with him and push FOR being a stickler.

Ok, here's a trivia question with 2 parts. I think all of you know who Redd Foxx was- black comedian, black actor, starred in "Sanford and Son", etc. Redd Foxx was his stage name. 1) What was the legal name of Redd Foxx's father? 2) What was the cause of death of Redd Foxx? (These are not trick questions, just odd questions.)

The post where I used the words "Take it Easy" was a genuine answer. (The other post just hinted at the answer.)

Robert Preston the Music Man Ron Howard

BTW, Mike imagines there's a big audience of readers out there who are all in accord with Mike, and not, say, spectating a fantastic car wreck. IF such a thing were true, Mike would be doing this (imaginary) crowd a disservice by only allowing them to read his posts on the GSC. Mike would set up his own board where they could read unadulterated Mike and cheer him on and so on. Then he could focus his time and effort on THEM. That he spends the time here instead says a lot. (Mainly, that there's no "them" trying to become Mike's disciples.)

If he got the right song it's his turn- in this thread, the title is all you need. (If he did not get the right song, it is NOT his turn.)

We were referencing "Carlin at Carnegie", when he had a whole set on ways to say "hello" and "goodbye."

With the current crowd, I thought that would go faster. CORRECT!

You´re not sure which? Other than C & C, was Tommy Chong EVER in anything?

Looks like just slinging insults around isn't working, Mike. They're ignoring them and focusing on all the flawed reasoning you're trying to hide.

"TWINS".

Cool. So it's Human's turn.

But he stopped saying, "Ok, TAKE IT EASY." He switched to "Farewell. Farewell til we meet again. Peace be with you. May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house."

Dave? Is he here?