WordWolf

Correct. That line about killing's almost a giveaway. In other news, the kid whose only line is "Don't touch that dial", if memory serves, is Dweezil Zappa, Frank Zappa's first kid and the guy who's most famous song is "My guitar wants to kill your momma."

Of course the name is a misnomer. It's based on the original's name, and, for the life of me, I don't remember much about "Christian Family" in the "Christian Family and S*x" class. There was stuff on slang nicknames and a description of some weird stuff we've already discussed, there was something on the last chapter of Proverbs, which, to be honest, was one of the few things that BELONGED there. ====== The overly-sanitized version at least makes a few direct claims that contradict the practices of yesterday... then again, so did the class of yesterday, and the man who claimed that it was wrong for a man to "help himself" to a woman had no difficulty helping himself to women back then. But hey, what's a little cognitive dissonance when you're operating at that level of hypocrisy anyway?

Seems to be yet another thing that started out without rules, then got official, then became etched in stone as another "thou shalt not." vpw said that the "nightowls" started out unofficially. He and the mrs would sit out by the river to cool off in the summer, and people would just come over and hang out and talk God-stuff. So, they got to calling those "night-owls." He said they called them "hoot-owls" when they passed midnight. So, at least at THAT time, it was considered fine to do stuff after midnite.

Will we have access to the old forums at the same time, at least as a read-only? It would make it easier for, say, Triple Movie Links if we could just hand-copy over the last 2-3 steps. It would pre-emptively defuse claims of "you deleted my thread because of a conspiracy to keep me down" and the like as well....

Home Alone Daniel Stern Very Bad Things

"I'm warning you, I get sick-air sick, car sick. I'n gonna throw-up all over you. Go ahead. Won't show on this shirt." I think this is the way this next quote goes.... "Boy. You're lucky he didn't rape you. Or kill you. Or rape you, then kill you. Or kill you then rape you." "You know who I am?" "I've seen you before. You're the @$$h**e on TV." "That's funny, I was gonna say the same thing about you."

Nope.

Had to think of a movie first. You're not gonna get that with reruns of 'Gilligan's Island.' 'Gilligan's Island.' You know, dah-DAH-dah-dah...yeah, that's it. The one with the boat." "Don't touch that dial!"

We'll miss you both, but you two focus on what really matters. You're already clear of twi and have family to attend to.

Now we see the violence inherent in the system! That, of course, is "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." :D-->

Dennis Quaid D.O.A. Daniel Stern

The same thing they did the last time Voldy was hit with the AK-at Godric's Hollow. They would keep his essence from being extinguished like a candle. The AK would then blow up his body instead, same as last time. Then, the horcruxes would keep him around "less than the meanest ghost" until he could work something out again. Bingo. A horcrux is specifically designed to do one thing: to preserve the lifeforce of the person of which they contain part. A horcrux is SPECIFICALLY to anchor the part that's in the person. So, "normally", one horcrux makes a person "indestructible"-as long as the horcrux is intact. That's why a horcrux is hidden away in a "safe" location. (Hm. Safe. I bet the cup is in Gringott's.) So, all 6 are supposed to preserve Voldy's "life", which is the 7th. The weakness that should exist is in his self-the 7th. He's got a lot less "self" than even a horcrux user is supposed to have. This should mean his magic is weaker and so on. Yes, this also means that, if the horcruxes are holding his magic intact by existing (his soul still having all the pieces SOMEWHERE), then each destroyed horcrux should remove 1/7 of his original strength. Now, on to the unicorn blood and the SS/PS. Voldy's main purpose until the end of Book 4 was to become solid again. Anything else was a secondary consideration. The purpose of obtaining a PS/SS would be so he could generate a physical body again ASAP. Since Voldy burned out all animals he possessed, it's likely he would have burned out Quirrell eventually also. So, I think the purpose of the unicorn blood was to keep QUIRRELL alive as well-so Voldy could use him. Voldy received a secondary benefit from it that I can't determine from here. I think we've run up against the limits of what JKR wrote on the subject, and anything after this is in the realm of fanfiction.

Ewan McGregor Episode III: Revenge of the Sith Jimmy Smits

Well, November 18th is so the Holiday traffic will see the movie. If I were to guess, it will be out for purchase at the end of April or sometime in May to utilize summer sales possibilities. This would mean it should come to premium cable by, say, early August.

Right. This happened TWICE so far- Book 1, Chapter 1,at Godric's Hollow, and again in Book 1 towards the end, at the Mirror of Erised. No-that was a particular ability of the Riddle diary. After Godric's Hollow, Voldy became non-physical, and "less than the meanest ghost" (Voldy's description, Book 4, the cauldron scene.) Voldy existed thru possession-of animals, and the back of Quirrel's head. Thru a means as-yet not fully understood (I think it relates to the snake Nagini), Voldy eventually grew a tiny homonculus-like body from that form- which, I say, is a huge improvement over being completely dead. I speculate he drew off biomass from something he inhabited (Nagini) to get that body. http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/faq_view.cfm?id=17 "..what would have happened if Ginny had died and Tom Riddle had escaped the diary?" "I can't answer that fully until all seven books are finished, but it would have strengthened the present-day Voldemort considerably." == We KNOW the result would have been a solid "Riddle" and an incorporeal "Voldy" who was "less than the meanest ghost". Then what? It is my GUESS that the Voldy-ghostthing would have possessed the solid Riddle and skipped the entire Book 4 experience. He would have the Book as an intact horcrux, Hogwarts would have been closed, and Voldy would have been able to use the Chamber of Secrets/ Hogwarts as a staging area, and used the magics native to Hogwarts as resources. (According to Dumbledore in Book 6, Riddle applied-TWICE- to be a teacher at Hogwarts to try to get access to its magics. To take the meanings of horcruxes strictly-and to judge by myths which JKR herself drew from- it is THAT a horcrux exists that is important. The normally do not DIRECTLY contribute to the survival of the person in a physical, material way. They just maintain part of their soul/essence so that the person can live on. They are normally NOT meant to sustain a person past PHYSICAL destruction- just normal causes of death-like disease, organ failure, "natural causes", even massive damage (many organs destroyed because someone parked a truck on Voldy.) Consider the movie vampire, who, although he's been STAKED, is still "alive" until he's hit with sunlight. He can be chopped up and stuff, but someone can put the pieces back together and remove the stake and there he goes again. So, NORMALLY, a Horcrux sits in a remote location, left alone, and quietly does what it's supposed to do. So, if someone came along and exploded Voldy again ("Voldemort explodicus"), then he'd go back to ghost-form and eventually return, either like he did with Quirrel, or like he did at the beginning of Book 4. So, if even ONE horcrux survived, and Voldy was exploded, he'd come back like he did before. If Voldy was in ghosty-form, and the last horcrux was destroyed, Voldy would be stuck. He MIGHT survive like a ghost, but more likely he'd have nothing connecting him to the world. Then again, Voldy's scared of death, so he MIGHT be stuck forever as a ghost, subject to their rules. I'd argue against it because there's only 1/7 of him left TO become a ghost-I'd argue that's not enough to retain an identity. (He might become a ghost with no personality, or the ghost of Forrest Gump or something, if he made it to ghosthood.)

The Vanishing Sandra Bullock Speed (I like to hit to the middle of the court...)

I didn't say "Harry" was the 6th Horcrux, I said Harry's SCAR was the 6th Horcrux. Big difference.

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Will Chas please give us another clue, or Tom guess the answer?

The problem with that is that it presumes copies of the paintings exist where they have never been mentioned. JKR HATES to bring a "deus ex machina" out of nowhere. You can usually trace things back to earlier mentions if you try. Didn't you recognize the corridor in Hogwarts that had the tapestry of Barnabus the Barmy, who tried to teach trolls how to do ballet? I knew something was up when something happened in that corridor, although I forgot WHICH corridor it was and I didn't care enough to look it up, I remembered it was important enough to require directions, which happened very rarely. That means it's not IMPOSSIBLE for a character like Snape to have access to one of the paintings, i.e. "Snape addressed his portrait of Nigellus Black, his favourite Headmaster in all of Hogwarts history." However, it is uncharacteristic for JKR to just have this happen with no mention of the possibility.

There's a problem with that. Dumbledore's office sealed itself off from outside entry once Dumbledore left in Book 5. Thus, nobody could have communicated with Phineas Nigellus' portrait there. (Although you had me there for a moment.) The next person to enter the office was Harry, once Dumbledore made him a Portkey to access the office. Dumbledore arrived minutes later. That's when they had the big argument.

Book 6, page-506. "However, if my calculations are correct, Voldemort was still at least one Horcrux short of his goal of six when he entered your parents' house with the intention of killing you. He seems to have reserved the process of making Horcuxes for particularly significant deaths. You would certainly have been that. He believed that in killing you, he was destroying the danger the prophecy had outlined. He believed he was making himself invincible. I am sure that he was intending to make his final Horcrux with your death. As we know, he failed." I agree with everything Dumbledore said except the last sentence. Voldy actually SUCCEEDED in making the Horcrux (but failed to kill Harry.) It requires a death to power it, and either Lily's death or Voldy's OWN death qualified to set it up. By making the Riddle diary a Horcrux, Voldemort gave it part of his own personality and power. By making Harry's scar a Horcrux, Voldy gave him part of his own personality and power: A) Harry became a parselmouth B) Harry was a natural for Slytherin in the Sorting C) Trelawney guessed he was born in midwinter- was she completely full of it, or was RIDDLE born in midwinter? Harry was born at the end of July (same day as JK Rowling.) D) Dumbledore himself noted the similarities at the end of Book 2. E) Book 2, the first time Harry hears the name Tom Riddle, he RECOGNIZES IT, but can't place it. Voldy stopped using that name years ago, but Harry seems to recognize it as if it was someone's name he heard years ago. === What of Gryffindor's object? That was HARRY. His parents lived in Godric's Hollow (as in Godric Gryffindor). JKR herself was SURPRISED one editor never drew a connection between the name of the village and the name of the Hogwarts Founder. Harry drew Godric Gryffindor's sword from the Sorting Hat. "Only a True Gryffindor" could have done that. Besides, the only known relic of Godric Gryffindor IS that sword. (Book 6, p-505). "I am confident, however, that the only known relic of Gryffindor remains safe. Dumbledore pointed his blackened fingers to the wall behind him, where a ruby-encrusted sword reposed within a glass case." ===== Further, Voldy had no plans to make 7 or more Horcruxes. He was planning on splitting his soul 7 ways. He has to retain at least 1 of the 7. This means he could make a maximum of 6 Horcruxes. That's why a list of 7 includes Voldy himself, although he is not actually a Horcrux. And, of course whatever he passed Harry wasn't intentional- at least, he didn't go there intending to make Harry a Horcrux. He went there intending to use Harry's death to power up a Horcrux he entered the house carrying. The explosion probably obliterated the item he had in mind. So, the scar's power was almost reflexive- Voldy was casting out part of his soul, and it reached Harry rather than the Avada Kedavra which ricocheted.

"I've got me a Chrysler, it's as big as a whale, and it's about to set sail"

Ok, let's see. Status report on the horcruxes: 1) Tom Riddle's diary. Destroyed. 2) Marvolo's ring. Destroyed. 3) Slytherin's locket. Stolen by R.A.B. Believed by fans to be stolen by Regulus Black, who attempted to leave the Death Eaters and died (probably by retrieving this horcrux and getting poisoned.) It's believed to have appeared in Book 5, at 12 Grimmauld Place, among the items they cleaned out. (A locket no one could open.) Whether it's still there, or Kreacher took it, or Mundungus took it (and if he's sold it since) is still to be shown. (One running theory is Mundungus stole it and sold it to Aberforth Dumbledore, barkeep of the Hogs Head tavern in Hogsmeade village.) 4) Hufflepuff's cup? This is suspected, and hasn't been identified yet. Does anyone remember a goblet from a previous book other than the Goblet of Fire? 5) Nagini the snake. Still alive. (Unconfirmed as a horcrux.) 6) Harry's scar. This hasn't been named as a horcrux yet. 7) Voldy himself makes 7.

In the interests of keeping this moving along, I'll post the next one. "Tin roof, rusted."