WordWolf

What's the largest height/width/dimensions for avatars on the new site? I was trying to find something that fit in the dimensions of the CURRENT board, and it's almost impossible to fit it-it's TEENY. I have a few different "WordWolf" specific avatars, and NONE of them fit here.

Acts 2:22-26. "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it. For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope " ====== It's in the Bible, if Acts 2:27 counts as "in the Bible". A) On THIS website, everyone DOES know way jargon, whether or not they USE it or AGREE with it anymore. This is a site primarily for survivors of twi. This is common knowledge. B) If figures of speech are considered legitimate tools to use in study of Scripture, then all 3 types-figures of addition, substitution and SUBTRACTION are all legitimate. A figure of subtraction places emphasis on what remains. I Peter 1:23 "Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever." The omission of the word "seed" after the word "incorruptible" places an emphasis on the INCORRUPTIBILITY. So, it's in the Bible ALSO. C) How can someone who is asleep await anything? I dunno-ask DAVID, who is DEAD and BURIED. D) This was meant respectfully to the deceased, not DISrespectfully. (Only the churl was disrespectful.) Next question. :)-->

Or you can start a thread in the Doctrinal forum and we can all play too. Unless you'd prefer privacy, in which case, never mind. :)-->

Who'd like to take the first shot at our first post, seen here?

Really? Was that the state of the art at that time? 8000 watts.. lessee. That's a BANK of EIGHTY one-hundred watt bulbs. I wonder how valid this claim is. I know the old film formats required a higher light level than modern equipment, but was this the norm? I don't know... My dad used to take home movies at Christmas, and he had to set up these big klieg lights. I think we needed to put ice cubes on our eyes after the filming was done. We WERE the only kids in Chicago with tans in January!! :D--> George No pun intended, but please ENLIGHTEN us-I'd like to hear more. At least tell me the configuration of klieg lights. Do they stack vertically in a narrow column?

Ok, this should be the very last excerpt post..... *wild cheering from the stands* pg-240. pg-251, Dr spencer from West Virginia is speaking. Me, I'd like to know where he went to school, and who taught that. I know medicine has not so completely advanced since, say, med school in the 50s or 60s that they taught that fear of death is a symptom of a bad heart. That belongs more to the "bleed him with leeches" era-or at least the Freud "everything is scientific" era, in the 19th century. Fear of death is a symptom of having brushed death-either thru personal experience or thru the death or near-death of a loved one. I don't even have to go to medical school to learn that. (I'll just stick with my Doctorate of Theology, thankyouverymuch. ;)--> ) Now, this educated MD talks about witnessing, and he talks about how he used to be a "hunter" of men-describing how people ambush a deer with both barrels from a concealed positions (which would make him a SNIPER of men, but I digress.) He then says Interesting analogy. AND COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. Peter was not a hook-and-line fisherman, Peter was a NET fisherman. "I will let down the net." The analogy is completely different. A net fisherman casts the net out broadly over the area, then he draws the net out of the water, and whatever is in the net is in the net. Jesus wanted THAT kind of guy, not a line fisherman, AND NOT A HUNTER OR SNIPER. When the sower went forth to sow, he sowed everywhere, and some grew and flourished. He did not study out the area, and bury one seed HERE and one seed THERE. Dr S completely misunderstood Peter's job AND the lesson it teaches us. Then again, even that early, twi was beginning to practice early hints of elitism..... ======= Now then, in the middle of the book is a set of pictures. Most are pretty typical. There's a shot of the traditional birthday dunk-in-the-river "God's blessings on you-SPLASH!", and there's a photo of vpw on the film set of pfal. You can recognize the set, you can recognize the suit, there's the sign saying "power for abundant living" on the desk. vpw's not actively filming in this shot. There's a person in the foreground getting ready to cue the cameraman to begin his countdown-you can see him ready to start the count. vpw is holding up a Bible and looking forward. I don't remember him holding up a Bible at the start of any segment. Plus, he's holding it a little close to comfortably read from. It looks like he's holding it up for the photo snapshot. I also note the light levels. Despite the stage lights, he knows someone is getting ready so snap a picture, and they're standing next to the cameraman. He can see the cue-guy. So, he's looking towards lights that aren't blinding. STAGE lighting blinds you to anything in its direction. If he was using the lighting at STAGE level-which is not as bright as he claimed the lights were during filming-then the entire crew could have slipped away with the camera, and, if they were silent, he'd be waiting for the signal to begin. You can see NOTHING at that light level. (Yes, I've been on stage, and seen the audience vanish as I stepped into the light.) Furthermore, the man giving the cue, and the cameraman, can be seen in silhouette, since they're seen blocking the light to the "studio". If the light really WAS at blinding level, we'd be able to see the pattern of the guys' shirts, and their facial features. The next shot, in fact, shows how tight the formation was..... it shows the side with the cameraman.....but there's no bank of BLINDING LIGHTS lined up in a row like STAGE LIGHTS. Are they all stacked up in the one non-visible corner, out of sight? If so, that's a STUPID place to put ALL the lights. You'd put them CENTRAL in some way. So, unless someone's wheeling in a foldaway LIGHTHOUSE BEACON, the lights were NOT nearly as bright as he claimed. I'm also curious just how lousy this film material supposedly was. The old, old black-and-white turn-of-the century films filmed outdoors to use sunlight. According to vpw, the stage had lights far in excess of that. Car headlights are 18,000 candlepower. They are bright enough to make that studio REALLY bright-brighter than in the photo. Yet, they are not PAINFUL to have shined at you. Am I the only one skeptical of this story? Perhaps he got sore eyes from the filming. I could buy that. But "lose my sight" bright? And he was STUPID ENOUGH to film 2-3 more days when Day One swelled his eyes SHUT and the Dr said he'd be blinded for LIFE? Was he that stupid, or does he think WE are? (No, that was not a rhetorical question.) ============= This ends the posts documenting the contents. Let the full-blown analysis begin!!!!! "Let joy be unconfined. Let there be dancing in the streets, drinking in the saloons, and necking in the parlor."

But I can bet money that I know of at least one person who thinks that's EXACTLY what he said, meant and did. Which, IMHO, was exactly the reason he made the vague, inflated claim...

Amazing what vpw "allows" to happen. pg-237, we hear Now comes the AD portion of tonight's show. pg-239. Man, I can't hear the sounds of the violin music over the earth shaking there...

pg-234, we see Donnie Fugit arrive in summer 1969, speak to someone in Wichita who was from Rye, NY-which led to the beachhead in Rye. In 1968 (yes, he jumped back a year...) I don't know what the army teaches people about working, but I get the impression that they work pretty hard there, even in peacetime. vpw seems to disagree-at least at this moment. pg-235. Those of you PERSONALLY kicked out by vpw himself, this is a perfect time to remind us..... Ooo, pot, meet kettle..... Regular Mother Teresa of Calcutta he was. Except, you know, for the "helping people" part. Then he decided to set up a leadership program. pg-236. He also says the new improved program is a 2-year program.

I almost missed this, but it illustrates his frame of mind nicely. pg-231. At the House of Acts with Ted... p-232. He said he liked how they were candid and upfront- if they didn't like you, they told you, if they did like you, they told you that. However, this is an amazing quote. We'll be discussing THIS later.... pg-233 vpw tells the Board of Trustees about the group, and they offer to bring them onsite for a Summer School. I especially LOVE LOVE LOVE to compare this next quote with a young person called vpw...

pg-229. Then he spent a paragraph detailing who had done what. Considering his usual proclivities, I'm surprised he did. pg-230. The film was made fall of 1967. He was making plans to visit the fellowship in San Jose, when he makes another ashcan discovery. pg-231, he arrives in San Jose, and tells them he wants to go to Haight-Ashbury. From there he goes to "the Living Room", a Christian house in Haight-Ashbury. There he meets Ted Wise, who invites him to Novato to the House of Acts...

pg-228.

Well since I'm posting them now, I recommend the sleep so I can post them in SUCCESSION....

pg-227.

If 'Calling him every night' wasn't enough..then she visited him every weekend ... wowza That's quite the committed individual to Wierwille. What kind of life did she have? Actually, I have a followup question for you.... Take a woman this obsessed with vpw- called EVERY night, visited town EVERY weekend- add that she "rid him of his hang-ups" about the human body, and I ask you, WHAT happened between them when doors were shut?

Actually, in the Doctrinal forum, we've discussed Covenant theology verses Dispensationalism before. I've found both sides made some good points. If you guys want to cover it again, feel free.

What is that, WW? Well, sometimes a program will crash badly and eat itself or other programs. Sometimes you hit the wrong key and "save" and reset your entire pc so the screen is upside-down or something. That's when a System Restore comes in handy. I presume it works roughly the same in 98 as it does in XP. Periodically (or when you tell it to), the pc will take a sort of "snapshot" of settings and vital functions. That way, if you damage something, you have the option of going back to a System Restore Point and restoring functions the way they were at that time. Whenever you're about to install a new program you're unsure of, it's a GREAT idea to set a System Restore point first. That way, if it makes a small crash, you can reset your controls. You can determine how much space your machine uses for System Restores. When it reaches the limit, the next one will push out the oldest restore to make space for the new one. You can also delete all but the most recent when you're doing a Disc Cleanup (if XP is anything to go by). Once you've really cleaned house, it's a good idea to make a new Restore point, then erase all but the most recent. That will prevent you from accidentally restoring viruses or spyware or whatever. BTW, http://www.grc.com has some handy free programs. I'm not sure if they work with 98, but they'll be labelled either way.

I'd agree in part. If your finances are tight, this isn't a vital expense- unless you depend on this machine for work. If you can afford to get an XP machine, I expect that, if you shop around, you can get a basic package for under $500 (I check prices all the time, and I see some good machines in the $400s all the time.) More memory is cheaper than a new machine, true. The speed of the machine is more a function of the microprocessor speed, however. That determines how fast it "thinks". My machine is not top-of-the-line, but its speed is enough that I can run, say AdAware while doing something else and split the speed in 1/2 without losing much performance speed. (It's good for multitasking.) Win98 PCs can't do that.

No need. Run a defrag and a scandisk every 2 months or so. The other stuff, yes, run every 2-3 days at the least (Spybot, AdAware, antivirus.) The firewall and SpywareBlaster don't have to be "run", and the main usages of the antivirus and Spybot's "immunization" feature don't have to be "run" either-they act like SpywareBlaster. And, yes, if you're OVERDUE to do all that, it takes 2 full days. :)--> Once you're caught up, it doesn't.

pg-220, some more history. April to July of 1961, they had a class in April, running to July. Then Pillai ran a class on Orientalisms, then they ran an Advanced class. (pg-221) Summer camps run in Wisconsin in 1959, Indiana in 1960, and Miamisburg, Ohio in 1961.

pg-217 into 218, vpw now catches up to UH's account, in 1957. Um, he had already left his organization with 10 people. Who was on this Board of Directors, and what was there to "direct"? Sounds like his story runs aground here.

vpw was expounding on his trip to India. He said Bishop K.C. Pillai invited them to India in 1955. pg-215. First one in history???? How about that. pg-216. pg-217. My, THAT attitude certainly changed...if this account was true, of course. He made it a hobby to attack denominations whenever he could.

I left you some advice on free programs you should be using on the other thread. However, I want to mention a few OTHER steps you should be doing. A) Go to Windows once a month and download any updates for Windows 98. (I think they stopped making them, but I may be wrong. Plus, you should get all the updates they DID make.) B) Run a disk cleanup. Programs-> Accessories-> System Tools-> Disk Cleanup. C) Run a defrag. Programs-> Accessories-> System Tools-> Disk Defragmenter. D) Run a Scandisk. I think that Windows 98 has it in the same "System Tools" menu. (XP moved it so that you have to hunt all over the PC for it.) E) Make a new "System Restore" point and delete all the old ones. ====== If you run all of those, plus all the programs I mentioned before, you may experience RADICAL improvements in pc performance. One person said it was like they had a new pc. :)--> Yes, doing ALL of this will take a bit of time, but it's time well-spent, and NONE of it can actually HARM your pc.

I'm reasonably certain I do. However, I need to know WHICH Microsoft information window it is. What does it say in it? =========== Meanwhile, it's possible you're dealing with spyware. Therefore, I highly recommend you make sure you have updated versions of each of the following: a software firewall (the Windows one does NOT count) an antivirus program AdAware Spybot:Search and Destroy SpywareBlaster And have RUN them all. (AFTER updating them and confirming they're all up-to-date.) If there's any of these you lack, speak up-they are all free or have free versions available which work FINE. (I haven't had any complaints with them.) If you wonder how good your "security" is WITHOUT them, go to http://www.grc.com and run the "Shields Up" program. It will simulate hacker actions and give you a graded and explained result. (For my computer, it says something like "not only can we not get in, we can't confirm there's a computer on your end" which is about as good as I can hope for in security.)

Well, it wasn't exactly on topic for this thread (at least until we discuss the exact quote), but you brought it up..... ===== Could God make it snow for any of us? I believe all the Christians here will say "yes". (I'm supposing that you mean the "snow on the pumps". The Tulsa snow job was confirmed to be a untruth in great detail.) There's several sub-issues here. Was this supposedly REAL snow, or a VISION of snow? All indications SEEM to be that it's supposed to be REAL snow. If it WAS, then it arrived in exactly ONE spot, with some of it instantly on the ground, and some of it heavy in the air. It then VANISHED. Could God do that? Well, yes. Whether you think God would go thru all that trouble when a VISION would work as well is a matter of opinion. If it was a VISION, then this goes back to the original question- which it would anyway. The supposed snow was to confirm that God would teach vpw God's Word like it had not been known since the 1st century, if vpw would teach it to others. The teachings and practices vpw taught and instituted bear NO resemblance to the 1st century church. They decentralized authority-he concentrated it in one person-himself. They spread out the money where there was need-vpw concentrated it at hq, where it STAYED. Their leaders led austere lives, Paul working a secular job at one point. vpw piled up luxuries for himself of nearly every kind. Their emphasis was on spiritual basics. vpw emphasized intellectual study. They had signs, miracles and wonders as day-to-day events. vpw-well, I suppose he saw a FEW here and there. Furthermore, "The Word like it hadn't been known since the 1st century" is a FICTION. In the 1st century, they had the Old Testament (the Torah), and a few of the letters where they could be found. It sounds like such a neat slogan, though..... Finally, although vpw taught others, EVERYTHING he taught (95% at the bare minimum) can be traced DIRECTLY to the work of ANOTHER Christian which was ALREADY in effect at the time. pfal was an cut-and-paste of the work (primarily) BG Leonard- whose class vpw copied over word-for-word originally, and thus it was known to all students of BG Leonard before vpw came around- (secondarily) EW Bullinger-whose books had been around for perhaps half-a-century before vpw heard of him, thus it was known to all his readers- (tertially) JE Stiles-whose work and book on the holy spirit were ALSO in effect long before, and whose book "Gifts of the Holy Spirit" was copied over almost word-for-word into the 1st edition of the White Book. Thus, the only things that had not "been known" before vpw ripped off the works of others was a handful of names-"manifestation","administration"-if those weren't a direct ripoff of someone else as well. Thus, the entire 1942 promise completely failed to come to pass. vpw taught others, but at no point did he teach them "God's Word as it has not been known since the 1st century" (for all the reasons I just gave.) Since God does not fail His promises, the logical conclusion is that this was NOT a promise of God. According to Scripture, if a man claims to speak in the name of the LORD and what he says does NOT come to pass, then he is a FALSE PROPHET. The only question then remaining is: Did vpw invent this 1942 promise? or did vpw receive a vision from a source other than the True God? The possibility of him actually receiving this as revelation from God, as you see, is excluded based on its phrasing and its results. Given that BG Leonard wrote something similar, vpw read his book, and, some years later began making this promise, it is most likely that vpw intentionally made it up based on BG Leonard's writings. ======= Knowing all this, you of course may STILL believe God made it snow for him. However, all the evidence argues AGAINST it. Just as Sarah did not exercise "blind faith", but rather "judged Him faithful who had promised" (aka GOD), most of us will choose to "exercise our senses to discern good and evil" and say this is so unlikely based on a MOUNTAIN of evidence, that it's not even worth considering once it's been exposed.