WordWolf

*reads the preceeding posts* As you showed, she did not. The words "drugging rapists" were neither implicit nor explicit. And if you don't even feel the need to apologize to God Almighty for ANYTHING you did in twi, well, all I can say is, that says a lot.

If you're flexible on the format of the interviews- say, can conduct them by phone, instant messenger, or a private room in this site's chatroom, you might get more responses, possibly MANY more responses.

The second quote rang a bell with me immediately, as did the third. (But especially the second.) Once I put the two together, I could picture the actors and the scenes.

Thanks, Steve! Correct episode. I knew the Martok quote I ended with was the giveaway, but it's easily the best quote in an entire episode of great quotes. It's one of the few episodes I think viewers should sit down, and watch without interruption or multitasking.

If someone came forward, a former Branch Davidian, changed his last name to Koresh, and announced he was continuing the Branch Davidian legacy, there would be some interesting discussion. A LOT of people-those who know SOME of the harm wrought in the Branch Davidians BY David Koresh- would be VERY skeptical that this would be good for society. They'd say that the Branch Davidians were harmful to their own members, and subtracted from society the FIRST time. They'd not be interested in seeing it happen AGAIN. And that's without getting into claims of "slander", or "what did the NEW Koresh ever do to you" or "what makes you think the NEW Koresh doesn't have the noblest intentions" or any of that. NOW do you see why people are more than a little ready to expect this to go badly?

*looks it up* "Phantasms." Other than not having the name, I had the right episode. Ok, next one. "It is called Kal'Hyah -- the path of clarity." "You've put on weight. And your hair is going gray." "My deterioration is proceeding apace." "I thought you would be in your grave by now." "I shall endeavor to die this year if possible." "We are not accorded the luxury of choosing the women we fall in love with. Do you think Sirella is anything like the woman I thought I'd marry? She is a mercurial, arrogant, prideful woman who shares my bed far too infrequently for my taste. And yet... I love her deeply. We Klingons often tout our prowess in battle and our desire for honor and glory above all else... but how hollow is the sound of victory without someone to share it with. And Honor gives little comfort to a man alone in his home... and in his heart."

Considering God Almighty decided that Jesus' condemnations of them would be preserved for eternity in Holy Scripture (along with the death sentences for Hophni and Phinehas, to name another example by name), I think 25, 50 or 75 years is PEANUTS to 2000 or more years of documentation.....

(It was "White Rabbit.")

Correct! "This is where the fun begins!" Anakin Skywalker, in the opening fighter sequence. "That wasn't much of a rescue." This sounded like the rescue from Episode II, but it was from the rescue of the Chancellor in Episode III. "So this is how liberty dies – with thunderous applause." Senator Padme Amidala, upon hearing Chancellor Palpatine (Darth Sidious) declare he's organizing the Republic into the first Galactic Empire- to the applause of the Senate. "Good! Twice the pride, double the fall." Count Dooku, aka Darth Tyranus (played by Christopher Lee), when Anakin faces off with him again, and announces his skills have doubled since the last time they fought- when Dooku cut off Anakin's hand. Dooku's response was classic. "Execute Order 66." Chancellor/Emperor Palpatine (Darth Sidious), giving the clone troopers, the GAR (Grand Army of the Republic) the General Order to kill all Jedi. This wiped out most of the Jedi as a result. Go, George!

I don't know the episode's name-but I should. Data was having odd waking dreams, seeing mouths on crewmembers, and a straw and similar things. He even consulted a holodeck simulation of Sigmund Freud about them. (Freudian diagnoses was amazingly funny for this case-if Steve! posts the exchange, you'll get the idea.) Turned out some lifeforms slightly out of phase were parasites, and feeding off the cellular peptides of the crewmembers. (In his dream, Worf was eating "cellular peptide cake...with mint frosting".) It's also the episode where Data, concerned he was attacking crew (subconsciously trying to hit a parasite) that he asked Worf to watch Spot for him. It's a priceless scene, between the way Worf held the cat and Data's elaborate instructions, and how Worf agreed. I used to remember the name...

Next song. A videogame commercial got me thinking about this one- they used THIS song, if you can believe it. "One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small"

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"Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap)", covered by Joan Jett. I think the original was AC/DC.

*nudges thread* Whoever has quotes from any television series (they don't have to be from the same episode-just the same series) can go next.....

Little Feat, "Let it Roll". "Why should I care? Why should I care?"

"This is where the fun begins!" "That wasn't much of a rescue." "So this is how liberty dies – with thunderous applause." "Good! Twice the pride, double the fall." "Execute Order 66."

I don't consider it doctrine or anything, but I find it's a good thing to encourage some "thinking outside the box." I like the premise. Lewis also wrote a sequel, but I'm blanking on the name.

No.

With mint frosting?

I don't think those who want to "give them a pass" say that because they claim to be a Christian group. David Koresh's "Branch Davidians" and Jim Jones' "Peoples Temple" don't get defended here, and they-supposedly- were Christian groups as well. I think the "give them a pass" "stop warning people" advocates are saying that for one reason and one reason only: They have fond personal memories of twi, and all discussions of bad experiences, wrong doctrine, and so on, interfere with their ability to maintain BLOODLESS fond personal memories, and they would rather SILENCE THE ONE TELLING THE TRUTH and warning people than to adjust their thinking to say "I had many fond memories-but some people's experiences were horrific." That's how I see it. Me, I DO have some fond memories, but acknowledge that while I was making fond memories in one place, others were having horrific experiences in another place.

Actually, I left Roman Catholicism a few years before I ended up with twi. I went from the RCC to monotheism, and didn't think any Christians had the answers I needed, and they certainly couldn't be found in the Bible. I think God has a sense of humour. I got the answers I was looking for, IMHO. (Along with some harmful stuff I WASN'T looking for.) So, as always, I'm thankful I got in (I got answers I needed, I met some loving Christians), and I'm thankful I got out (I separated from dangerous attitudes and arrogance, and could see other Christians as equals after leaving.) Some people insist that those who warn about the harm from twi are blithely refusing to acknowledge there was ever any benefit from being in twi, and I'm usually counted among those they mean.... ....which is odd, since I keep saying "I'm glad I got in, and glad I got out", which means I see 2 sides to this story.....

I'm chagrined I don't have it yet. I'm sure I've heard it before.

Next movie: "This is where the fun begins!" "That wasn't much of a rescue." "So this is how liberty dies – with thunderous applause."

You're much safer starting from scratch. Try reading the Bible for yourself, or talk to some other Christians who never heard of vpw, twi or whatever, or do some searches online for work that doesn't include twi buzzwords.