WordWolf

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I'm sure a lot of high-schoolers will be celebrating it, that's for sure.....

How old when joining, and how old when leaving, are both noteworthy. What year you joined, and what year you left, are both noteworthy.

*searches* Looks like, if you only go by what people are SAYING about twi, more people know it as a group that produces horrible, "so-bad-it's-funny" videos than "know it" as "the truth".

http://www.schoolhouserock.tv/Shot.html http://www-personal.umich.edu/~varnum/Stor...se.html#History "The British are coming! The British are coming!" Now, the ride of Paul Revere Set the nation on its ear, And the shot at Lexington heard 'round the world, When the British fired in the early dawn The War of Independence had begun, The die was cast, the rebel flag unfurled. And on to Concord marched the foe To seize the arsenal there you know, Waking folks searching all around Till our militia stopped them in their tracks, At the old North Bridge we turned them back And chased those Redcoats back to Boston town. And the shot heard 'round the world Was the start of the Revolution. The Minute Men were ready, on the move. Take your powder, and take your gun. Report to General Washington. Hurry men, there's not an hour to lose! http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/pro...57826&itm=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQA5NDNkUM

If there's as many as 1,500 adults, I'd be shocked.

I agree- but not in the manner you meant. It was vpw's pride that poisoned twi from its earliest days- "I'm too important to farm" "I'm too important to work a full-time job" "I want everyone to listen to me" etc etc.

Oh, a few things here and there. And I've started "learning the ways of The Force", if I can use artistic license.

Congratulations! That's a FANTASTIC accomplishment! I can't really add anything, since you're obviously already reaping the rewards of all of that already.

Sounds like an episode of TOS, where the Vulcan Mind-Meld is used.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Ron-Parks-Min...ur-Christianity "Pop Christianity can be said to be 'a version of Christianity made popular by either select personalities or demands of the masses', which has cultivated its own Christian teachings, Christian practices and even Christian lingo. 'It's Time For Your Destiny!', 'Your Season Has Come!', 'The Seven-fold Anointing', 'The Latter Day Revival', and so many like phrases have become the language of many 21st century Christians. But are they just buzz-words or phrases that have no real root and meaning in Christ-centered Christianity?"

Did Ermal Owens replace "Uncle" Harry at some point?

We discussed this in the "New site promoting twi" thread. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=15507 "Notice how "About Us" says nothing about "us"? "This website is dedicated to giving a fair-and-balanced, comprehensive overview of the publications, books, and beliefs of "The Way International"." That's it. Interesting how that says why there's a website, but leaves who "us" are a complete mystery. Contact info: a screen-name, and a yahoo email address. (Plus a snail-mail address, which is interesting.) I wonder if ALL their books-they-won't-sell will get the 5/6 stars rating. And what the scale supposedly MEANS. And what is a "comprehensive overview"? An extensive brief look? " " A whois lookup shows a M*cael Dav*dson in Indianapolis owned or registered the site." "Since "Jesus Christ Is Not God" is such a cornerstone of the beliefs of The Way International, don't you think it is deceptive to not mention it in your "fair and balanced" view of the organization? You don't even mention it in your book list. It would only be honest to mention that to those looking at this "fair and balanced" look at The Way International." "When you click the link to "contact us" the email address is the same as for a guy who posts pics from the Family Tables website on another site that I frequent. Family Tables is a site run by an "innie" that was visited by several of us a few years ago. When we started asking pointed questions the rules were changed to require that only active TWI members be allowed to post." "Well everyone My husband and I just took a drive to check out this guy. We went to the 4120 Balboa Dr. place that he has on his site. The house is abandoned and looks like it has been that way for quite some time. The windows are broken and the place is falling apart. Funny, somehow I am not surprised."

No link to the post nor the thread, almost as if Oldiesman didn't want us to read the entire post nor the posts it replied to... The post was in reply to derailing a thread and "politely calling people liars". the derailing (as with derailings in general) added nothing to the discussion, but attempted to end it by continually going off-topic. Civil posting has never drawn a response from staff, and it's unlikely it ever will. But don't let little things like "honesty" or "fairness" affect you. You've never seen the OTHER PERSON's side to anything here, and I see no reason for you to bother trying now. Not that you WERE trying.... For the curious, here's the beginning of the thread. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=19557

Which it should, since it IS "Laugh-In." I thought the announcer quotes about the prerecording were the best clue so far, except for certain stock lines. I was getting ready to begin posting the more famous stock lines, for that matter.

His main claim (other than doctrinal differences) is that the origin of the pre-Trib position is a "vision" of McDonald, which she pushed, and then Darby met her, was convinced about it, and ran with it. Darby was teaching it before meeting her, if the years are correct, however. And it would be very difficult for a doctrine to originate in a "vision" that neither mentioned nor suggested it. I posted the account of the "vision." AFAIK, there's only the one "vision" from McDonald. Therefore, if someone (MacPherson) is claiming something is mentioned in "a vision" from McDonald, it would have to be THAT "vision" or none at all. Since a read of that "vision" doesn't turn up any "pre-Trib" ANYTHING, MacPherson made that up, and completely manufactured the claim that McDonald's "vision" (which has nothing to do with it) originated it. Far as I'm concerned, he can be a post-Tribber all he wants, and even hate pre-Trib theology, but I draw the line at making stuff up to support your position. It's unacceptable no matter who's doing it. In case you're wondering, if you feel inclined, you can prowl cyberspace for sites that attack the pre-Trib position. Most (if not all) will claim the pre-Trib position originated with McDonald's "vision". Their source for that is MacPherson, who's spread that particular fiction far and wide.

"Do you believe in the here-after?" "Yes." "Then you know what I'm here after!" "We spent 35 million dollars on the space program. Now some people said that we should've given it to the poor." "Now what do the poor know about running a space program?" "How about coming up to my place?" "Are you going to try anything fresh?" "Nope. Same old stuff." "Go to your room!" "It's not fair." "The preceding was recorded earlier because we were ashamed to do it now." "Hey, next week have we got a show... " "This show has been prerecorded to give the cast a chance to get away." "Miss Diller, what can a girl do about bad breath?" "Keep your mouth shut." "Do you know there's a small hotel in downtown Burbank?" "No, but if you hum a few bars, I can fake it."

Sorry, that's not it.

Ah, no, burden of proof is in the other direction. I produced the text of her supposed "vision." MacPherson claims her "vision" pushes a pretrib position. Rather than saying I have to prove there NONexistence of any further NONexistent visions, formal logic says MacPherson (or his proxy) has to present some proof of ANY vision with a pre-Trib position on her part. I don't HAVE to prove a NEGATIVE. (Prove the NONexistence of something? Come on, Mark...)

Maybe.

So far, I've run across that "vision" a number of places, but no others. I'm inclined to believe sources who say MacPherson's claims concerning McDonald, at least, are entirely manufactured by MacPherson. (BTW, I was incorrect when I mentioned Darby. It's true he didn't get his positions from MacDonald at all.)

"Do you believe in the here-after?" "Yes." "Then you know what I'm here after!" "We spent 35 million dollars on the space program. Now some people said that we should've given it to the poor." "Now what do the poor know about running a space program?" "How about coming up to my place?" "Are you going to try anything fresh?" "Nope. Same old stuff." "Go to your room!" "It's not fair." "The preceding was recorded earlier because we were ashamed to do it now."

I've read other authors who have read her other comments-but THAT one was the most famous- that was "THE vision" MacPherson hinged it all on. (She wasn't getting them ALL the time...) As you can read, she was perhaps a mid-tribber, a "partial rapturist" at most. The cornerstone of her speeches was that the church was going to live through the tribulation- and it wasn't READY. Can you find some OTHER quote of hers that MacPherson says is related to pre-trib- that actually IS pre-trib? Does this mean you've reconsidered this, and are now going to dig through MacPherson's stuff?

I posted the new quotes 3:30am in the morning, and all you have to say is I included a typo? I did a cut-and-paste and didn't notice the typo. Beat me.