WordWolf

Remember, vpw, from the beginning, knew that he himself was a fraud. He was always looking for things to pull the fraud. That's why he he accumulated a library of "original works" of other Christians to plagiarize and basically present as his own work. It's also why vpw, in public, would be such a nice guy, but turn around once the cameras were all off and would terrorize everyone around him. He KNEW he was scamming his audience, and managed a public persona for all the people who only knew him from stage and video. (That's why we still get clueless people who never saw vpw when he wasn't on stage, and think he was in reality the public persona he pretended to be.) So, in private, vpw would yell and tear into people, people he liked, people he was in charge of, and he would make all sorts of excuses as to why it was a good idea. "I yell because you can take it!" Things like that. lcm was often in the room when vpw was doing that. lcm was convinced vpw was the real deal, so, hot out of college, all lcm did was try to copy vpw as best he could. So, lcm learned to yell at people and rationalize it as "right." In fact, for a time, lcm wasn't pleased at himself when he yelled at the SNT Sunday Night Services. That was as late as 1982. What a difference a few years made! By 1989, lcm was perfectly happy to yell at great length on tape and in people's faces. All through the 1990s, lcm yelled at people at every opportunity. He copied vpw as best he could. lcm didn't know vpw was a fraud, and so he didn't know he HIMSELF was a fraud! He's STILL a fraud, and he STILL doesn't know it!

lcm going into lengthy, elaborate tirades attacking Catholics for making statues and other graven images, then having both a big statue and smaller statues of vpw being made, and advertised. Actually, I consider twi WORSE than wiccans, because wiccans leave you alone, and don't dictate to you how to live your life or do anything. Their Golden Rule? Don't harm anyone. (A little like the Hippocratic Oath.) Furthermore, I consider twi WORSE than SATANISTS LIKE ANTON LE VEY, since he was right up-front and honest about who and what you were dealing with. With him, you knew he'd do whatever he'd want to do, and that's all there was to it. With twi, there's this disconnect- they'd claim to do one thing in public, then do the opposite when the cameras were off.

I'm a bit surprised you're depicting twi's heads as "masters." They're normally working UNOPPOSED- as the only sources of information and authority for people. The idea of work involving THINKING, PERSUASION, or things along those lines would, at best, have them RUSTY, and at worst, incompetent. Any EXPERIENCED conman can outperform them. I guess that's why ex-twi splinters keep getting snowed by better conmen.

I can see yours, but not mine. I think that prevents people from boosting their own posts. I've wondered if a few people did that to their own posts in the past...

I don't think they're DUMB so much as GULLIBLE. twi big wigs lie to them all the time, and they just BUY it. The idea that they'd be lied to by the bigwigs is slow to occur to them. And then the bigwigs say "suspecting me of lying just because I told you outrageous hogswill is 'thinking evil', which we don't do." So the twi'er says "Duh, that's right" and goes back to sleep. Until they get sick and tired of being sick and tired and really wake up.

"I'll have what she's having!"

I refuse to answer this. At least until you mention Rhode Island.

More threads on the same topic, "Have you seen the video on the twi website?" "TWI commercial posted on their site" This was a different subject. It was never on The Daily Show. E!'s show "The Soup" sometimes includes things found online. In that case, they showed a clip from the twi website of some awkward song-and-dance number twi posted to their own site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VPcPCwK_G0

You ARE better off downloading Firefoz, but I've run IE8 on XP in more than one place... In those cases, the PCs were running XP Pro. I don't know about XP Home.

I've never had any problems with any registry cleaner. IMHO, once you skip the "nag screen", Eusing Free Registry Cleaner can't harm the PC. RegScrubXP is fine, but you have to remember to just let the program find problems. I knew someone who selected the option to identify problems himself. So, it showed him the full contents of his PC's hard drive, which he promptly deleted. Personally, I don't think that was the program's fault, since it did exactly what he told it to. However, you can't make that mistake with Eusing.

"Midnight Cowboy", I think. I know it's Dustin Hoffman, but it's hard to keep track of which of his quotes are from which of his movies, sometimes.

Well, if you must, go ahead. It's better to give the answer THEN move along. You might get people curious about the original movie and get them to see it. But hey, whatever moves this along...

I can't speak to programs, but if I wanted to host a 30-minute video, I'd skip YouTube and start with sites like Megavideo.

The OFFICIAL reason, or the REAL reason? The OFFICIAL reason was that, around or during the 1994 ROA, lcm said it was about rampant homosexuality, and about rampant heterosexual sex among the teens. http://www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/waydale/waydale-corps-notes/corps-notes-from-09-14-94.html He couldn't just make up ONE lie and stick to it- he was all over the map there. The idea that people were having sex in twi and lcm being offended about it is either funny in a sad way, or hypocritical as all hell. It's like the organization was his PERSONAL harem, and having the teens do what he had been doing for over a decade was offensive. Notice that he says there's no verses of Scripture that address pre-marital sex. That was the President of a purported Biblical research ministry who said the closest you could get was Ephesians 6:1 "Obey your parents". This, of course, gets back to the previous decade, and the shocker that Adultery and Fornication are considered Bad Things in the Bible-and that this was news to the twi higher-ups. For fun, go ahead and read what lcm said- he seems to have no idea what goes into anything. He mentions wanting to shut the ROA down- and to burn all the tents down. Of course, if he did that, then twi would have to pay for the Big Top, and any other of the tents they used for ROA but didn't OWN. ================================== The common thinking is that the REAL reason the ROA was canceled was lcm's recent decision to put the entire corps on salary. Why did that change the ROA? Well, before, the preparations for the ROA were done by the corps. People used up what little vacation time they'd accrued at work, then came to hq and WORKED FOR FREE, setting up the ROA. Then they stayed through ROA, using up their remaining accrued vacation time, and WORKED FOR FREE, putting on the ROA. So, twi had a slave labor force for both weeks, setting things up and doing the "grunt work". (Of course, there were also other volunteers who walked in and worked for free during ROA- twi was always great at inspiring "free" labor.) lcm never had any appreciation for the amount of effort that took, nor the amount of personal sacrifice that was. He was not original- vpw himself had no appreciation for it either. In "vp and me", lcm documented how vpw was offended how some corps used up all their vacation time to show up for Corps Week, perform unpaid labor, then went home without staying for the ROA. It comes as less of a shock that neither appreciated such things when one realizes that neither man ever worked a day's labor in his life. Both men went straight from school into "the ministry", and lived on other people's money the entire time. Anyway, what that had to do with ROA '94..... lcm put the corps all on salary without finding out if it was economically feasible. His thinking (if you can call it that) was that this move would be self-supporting, since the full-time corps would be able to promote that inferior ripoff class that lcm made of pfal, and that people would actually pay to take it (when already people had to twist arms to get people to take it), and that people would all suddenly start paying for it, and all suddenly stick around twi, paying 10%, 15%, 20% of their income, swelling the coffers of twi and paying the expense of the full-time corps everywhere. What resulted was that nobody could "polish a turd", so having 1 person or 100 people try to push lcm's stupid class made little difference- almost nobody took it, and even fewer stuck around after finishing it. So, lcm's decision meant twi was paying out a lot more money and taking in no more money to make up for it. This became a LOT more obvious when Corps Week and ROA came around. Where the non-salaried corps normally had to pay their own way through both weeks, NOW twi had to pay out salary for both weeks AND the cost for the entire salaried corps to make it to both- since the "salaries" were pretty meager and there wasn't any money left over to pay their OWN way to ROA. So, ROA now became a cash sink for twi. Worse, the people who did show up got to compare notes every year, see how much smaller twi got every year, discuss who wasn't there anymore, and compare notes on everything twi tried to hide.

*checks* I'm not getting warnings over the site. I'd recommend "graduating" from AVG to Avast! Free or to Avira Antivir, both of which are a bit less user friendly, but more effective in security. I'd also recommend "graduating" from IE to Firefox, and adding various "Add-Ons" to boost security. (NoScript, Ghostery, AdblockPlus, BetterPrivacy, Flashblock.)

IIRC, first they made a big, ugly bronze statue of vpw for the auditorium. THEN they made smaller versions for people to buy for their homes. On the one hand, the obvious contradiction between twi pushing that idolatry is wrong, images are wrong, blah blah blah, lcm running off at the mouth about it- then they put these out. My sense of right and wrong was offended pretty fast. On the other hand, I couldn't get VERY angry because the things were so freaking ugly, I thought being in the presence of one of those would be its own punishment. I'm pretty sure that was the only thing like that-unless you count the photos of the bod for displaying at home. For that matter, that was pretty creepy, too....

I didn't hear any stories until I got here, and there were some very interesting stories.... For the curious, the original post continues that third story, but you'll have to click on the link to read it... I have a limit to what I'll repost... The "backwards arrow" is the link I mean...

Exactly! Look- people who work for the unjust mammon, people among the rank unbelievers, people who have no spiritual connection with each other, people whose connections are just money and business, THOSE people would let their co-workers eat hamburgerS (plural) if they were hungry, so long as they were on-break or before or after work. (They can spare the food, just don't eat on company time.) So, among the family of God, it should have been MUCH more so. If you were obviously there for the event (not just sneaking in for food), there should have been no question about you eating. If the person you spoke to flat out couldn't show that much mercy on behalf of people who could certainly spare it (the food arrived in bulk, the labor was free, the payment was retail or nearly so), then they should have shown the maturity to put in the money THEMSELF and say to go ahead. That anyone could have said "no" when even the unbelievers would have said "yes" shows they were trained to squeeze every last penny from the "believers" and give it to the organization. That's no big surprise- that's what lcm learned when HE was in the corps, and apparently, those who taught him that passed it down further, and he passed it down when he was in charge a few years later (FAR too soon to handle such responsibility.)

"The Wadi". It was a First Contact situation, where the Wadi made a beeline for Quarks' and immediately began playing. When Quark got tired of excessive winning, he tried to rig the table. They responded by making Quark play THEIR game. The name of the game was "Chula" according to the script. (That's confirmed on Memory Alpha.) ("According to one of the writers of the episode, Jeanne Carrigan-Fauci, the name of the game, "Chula", comes from and is a portmanteau of Chutes and Ladders, as the maze game is a "three-dimensional form" of the game.") The goal in the game is to "move along home", which is the name of the episode.

Can't blame that one on lcm's hateful screeds- he didn't make it up, and he didn't take it out of context. (For him, that almost qualifies as erudite research!) http://mu-warrior.blogspot.com/2008/01/marquette-gay-blog-labels-straights.html http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art15370.asp http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14045538/

Isaiah 5:19 (KJV) 20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! ======================================================== 1 Peter 3:15-16 (New American Standard Bible) 15but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; 16and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. ============================================== Psalm 35 (NASB) 1Contend, O LORD, with those who contend with me; Fight against those who fight against me. 2Take hold of buckler and shield And rise up for my help. 3Draw also the spear and the battle-axe to meet those who pursue me; Say to my soul, "I am your salvation." 4Let those be ashamed and dishonored who seek my life; Let those be turned back and humiliated who devise evil against me. 5Let them be like chaff before the wind, With the angel of the LORD driving them on. 6Let their way be dark and slippery, With the angel of the LORD pursuing them. 7For without cause they hid their net for me; Without cause they dug a pit for my soul. 8Let destruction come upon him unawares, And let the net which he hid catch himself; Into that very destruction let him fall. 9And my soul shall rejoice in the LORD; It shall exult in His salvation. 10All my bones will say, "LORD, who is like You, Who delivers the afflicted from him who is too strong for him, And the afflicted and the needy from him who robs him?" 11Malicious witnesses rise up; They ask me of things that I do not know. 12They repay me evil for good, To the bereavement of my soul. 13But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth; I humbled my soul with fasting, And my prayer kept returning to my bosom. 14I went about as though it were my friend or brother; I bowed down mourning, as one who sorrows for a mother. 15But at my stumbling they rejoiced and gathered themselves together; The smiters whom I did not know gathered together against me, They slandered me without ceasing. 16Like godless jesters at a feast, They gnashed at me with their teeth. 17Lord, how long will You look on? Rescue my soul from their ravages, My only life from the lions. 18I will give You thanks in the great congregation; I will praise You among a mighty throng. 19Do not let those who are wrongfully my enemies rejoice over me; Nor let those who hate me without cause wink maliciously. 20For they do not speak peace, But they devise deceitful words against those who are quiet in the land. 21They opened their mouth wide against me; They said, "Aha, aha, our eyes have seen it!" 22You have seen it, O LORD, do not keep silent; O Lord, do not be far from me. 23Stir up Yourself, and awake to my right And to my cause, my God and my Lord. 24Judge me, O LORD my God, according to Your righteousness, And do not let them rejoice over me. 25Do not let them say in their heart, "Aha, our desire!" Do not let them say, "We have swallowed him up!" 26Let those be ashamed and humiliated altogether who rejoice at my distress; Let those be clothed with shame and dishonor who magnify themselves over me. 27Let them shout for joy and rejoice, who favor my vindication; And let them say continually, "The LORD be magnified, Who delights in the prosperity of His servant." 28And my tongue shall declare Your righteousness And Your praise all day long.

Even twi will tell you that Jesus Christ never cast out JUDAS ISCARIOT- the very man who betrayed him with a kiss, and betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver.

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