WordWolf

They might have been the buddies I was talking about.... If you follow the dialogue, at least once someone (Mr Peabody) refers to the show as "the Rocky Show." What state is Frostbite Falls in? :)

No, not a couple. And the show had different features besides the main characters. I KNOW you know this one, your memory goes way back.

The powers that be for the show went around the US and then went to Washington DC and parked in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue during the Cuban Missile Crisis-which they had no idea was happening at the time and they wondered why the President didn't come out to meet them. (That wasn't an episode, they traveled around.) It's in syndication now. I was watching it on TV the other month. BTW, there were THREE movies if you count the entire ensemble and not just the main characters. I forgot that. (No, they weren't GOOD movies.)

Ok, the show was supposed to be a buddy show, named after Buddy A. However, everyone liked Buddy B better, so they named it after BOTH- A & B. Then they changed it to B & A, then just B. The powers that be for the show actually did a gag about trying to get an imaginary location added as another US state. They showed up at the White House, but no President and no photo opportunity. IIRC, someone came out and said he was too busy- and this was right in the middle of the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Not the Bay of Pigs.) ====================================== This show's production included some outsourcing to another country. While in its original run, it had aired right after American Bandstand at one time, and ran on NBC and ABC during that run. It's been syndicated since. A pinball machine was made with this as the theme in 1993. TSR made a roleplaying game with this setting in 1988. It takes place in Minnesota. There were TWO feature movies of the characters in theaters. Really,

"Hey. ho-let's go!"

It's Billy Idol's "White Wedding."

Ok, the show was supposed to be a buddy show, named after Buddy A. However, everyone liked Buddy B better, so they named it after BOTH- A & B. Then they changed it to B & A, then just B. The powers that be for the show actually did a gag about trying to get an imaginary location added as another US state. They showed up at the White House, but no President and no photo opportunity. IIRC, someone came out and said he was too busy- and this was right in the middle of The Bay of Pigs incident.

"Hey, little sister, who is it you're with? Hey, little sister, what's your fascinish?" (For those who heard the album cut and not just the one in rotation.)

Arnold Schwarzenegger Total Recall Sharon Stone

It's not that recent an idea, either. After leaving twi in the 88-89 mass exodus, I was told by a corps grad who also left in it that we should NOT be doing original research, and instead should be rereading the twi materials vpw supposedly wrote. Apparently, the corps were taught this "research means to search again" nonsense for many years before the rest of us heard it.

No, but you were getting closer. Since I've stalled this thread enough, I'll post the answer. "MEET THE PRESS" (boring Sunday morning news show) is the longest-running TV show in US history and is still running today. Not that most people care. FREE POST!

It might be one... Evening news in general started later. It is not a nightly news show.

General Hospital has been running since 1963. The show I'm referring to started in 1947 and is still running. GH is the longest-running soap opera.

The longest-running television show in US history is still running to this day.

At first, I had no idea. After getting some sleep, I now remember something. Was it called "the Lone Gunmen"?

Ben Stiller Anchorman:the Story of Ron Burgundy Steve Carrell

Part of the problem with discussions like this is the issue of PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. Horace Greeley has been remembered as having said "Go West, young man." I've read that he repeatedly tried to credit the correct source during his lifetime. When it comes to "things vpw authored", there's the things he put his name on, and the things he (rarely) credited correctly or cited correctly, and the things he left with NO name- and twi'ers were enculturated to make the obvious assumption that it meant HE wrote it because he didn't include a source. Sometimes he DID cite a source- then went on and failed to do so with the same writing at other times. This came up with the poem "about" the way corps which was taken from a college- supposedly with full atrribution, although I never heard it attributed when I was in. It was actually from Henry Van Dyke's "Spirit of the Everlasting Boy." http://www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/9207/ IV What constitutes a school? Not ancient halls and ivy-mantled towers, Where dull traditions rule With heavy hand youth's lightly springing powers; Not spacious pleasure courts, And lofty temples of athletic fame, Where devotees of sports Mistake a pastime for life's highest aim; Not fashion, nor renown Of wealthy patronage and rich estate; No, none of these can crown A school with light and make it truly great. But masters, strong and wise, Who teach because they love the teacher's task, And find their richest prize In eyes that open and in minds that ask;" This, of course, is neither the beginning nor the end of that poem, but it was all that vpw used, which he probably took from a school that used this part of the poem. I was told he cited his source, but I never heard it given when I heard the "poem" (partial poem) in twi. Does it count as plagiarized when he SOMETIMES gave the source? I think that depends on specifics. Someone claimed that vpw never claimed he wrote everything that he put his name and copyright on (which, legally, is saying he wrote it) because one of his books (TW:LiL) has an off-the-cuff comment buried over 100 pages in where he says that "nothing I do is original", and that this means he wasn't claiming to have authored all the books and classes he listed himself as the author of. Few of us would buy into such a detailed hallucination that would make this an acceptable line of "reasoning." However, between "he never plagiarized" and "every utterance of his mouth from childhood on was taken from someone else" is a lot of ground. Judging from eyewitness accounts of caches of books he used when teaching "his" stuff, and things that have been proven conclusively here and other websites, it seems clear that MUCH of vpw's time in twi if not MOST of his time in twi, vpw was teaching the work of other Christians- stitched together with flowing oratory and pontification- which was his actual course of study (homiletics/preaching, not "Bible languages" as he seemed to suggest). As such, we can often find surprising sources here and there among "his" material. Me, I'm an eclecticist. I believe there's value in drawing from the best of different sources. I find nothing wrong with that. The criminal act is in taking what you found from different sources and claiming you authored it rather than giving all the credit that is due.

The previous poem was credited to Guadalupe de Saavedra in 1973. ================= Another poem has been heard to have been credited to vpw, and its discussion is here:

You're welcome to start a new thread for that and name it appropriately so later arrivals can find it. I'll give you a headstart. A thread about a poem that vpw placed his name on as author, which was clearly plagiarized by him and others. (If you do a websearch now, you'll "find" that the "author" wasn't even ALIVE when vpw's put his name on it, and when at least one other form was extant with an author's name. I previously found it on websites discussing the loss of a loved one, without the "last line" used by vpw.

This being the dawn of the information age, it only takes a quick web-search to discover that there's LOTS of Christians who say this in a few forms (changing a word or 2 is STILL plagiarism when one is plagiarizing.) vpw was fond of using the works of others and making it sound AS IF he meant them. However, they were just repeated and PERFORMED, so the words were empty when he said them. vpw was NOT putting God first when he organized twi so that all activities turned a profit no matter how small. vpw was NOT putting God first when he used only the cheapest materials for most things, then spent on luxuries for himself. He wasn't putting second and himself third when he was smoking and drinking every day, and demanding others quit smoking, and expecting them to host him wherever he went (which they did and he never paid for any of his expenses that they shouldered- in fact, people often took up collections so he could be put up for free and leave with money in his hand.) vpw put HIMSELF first, and God and others were a FAR distant second, and tied for second. Actually, they were probably third, and "anything that delivers money and luxuries to me" was second.

chockfull:

The cadre of twi are just keeping the organization together and doing whatever they are legally required to do to manage that- while they ride the twi "gravy train" as long as they can. Rosa-lie wants to live off them until she dies, Donna as long as she can and so on. Sooner or later it won't be possible, and they will all have to go out and get real jobs. Since most of them have no real skills, that will really be the rude awakening. I wouldn't be surprised if one or more ended up committing suicide rather than face the same life the rest of us did. Life without cooks, housekeeping, etc,- imagine the horror!

The MAIN PAGE has been down for one site. The other pages may still be up. http://www.christianeducational.org/ceswhat.htm http://www.christianeducational.org/signupSOWER.htm And their other sites are still up. http://www.truthortradition.com

Are there splinters of twi? I would imagine that if someone left them, it would be because they no longer trust what has been taught...so why continue leftover teachings from twi? ==================== Obviously, since that isn't the case, those are not the right questions, which means they don't give us the answers that get us somewhere. People leave twi/ces/stfi for all sorts of reasons, including "you're kicked out" and "I want some of the money and adulation."

So it's been reported here, by US military veterans.