WordWolf

The "believing" occult practices were from the "Word of Faith" movement but especially from "Christian" (occultist) Albert Cliffe. http://www.precastconcrete.org/~messiah7/rsr_lawbelieve.htm ""I found the Kingdom-of Heaven within me and, oh, how my ideas of God changed.(3) God to me is all life, all power, all love."(4) God is the name given to that unchangeable principle which is the source of all life, of all existence. As God He is impersonal, but as we come to know Him day by day as expressed in each one of us, He really becomes personal to us...(5)" Man, Cliffe newly concluded, must contain the divine energy for "My mind is part of His divine-mind"(6) and "we are inseparable from God"(7), Cliffe wrote. Man's goal, then, is to grow, developing his latent "God power" since "...if there is an unpardonable sin it is the damming up of God's powers within us." (8) According to Cliffe, attainment of this goal is aided by the impersonal Christ force indwelling every human being. Since "there is no death"(9) a person simply goes to "that plane of thought which you have prepared for yourself" which can loosely be termed "heaven" or "hell."(10) Cliffe's pantheistic viewpoint combats Scripture, promoting man from sinful creature to a microcosm of the "Creator." These a-Christian beliefs have been marketed for centuries by mystics and occultists, often under the thin disguise of Christian terminology which Cliffe favors. "

Don't forget ALBERT CLIFFE. http://www.precastconcrete.org/~messiah7/rsr_lawbelieve.htm "Though Let Go and Let God focuses on ten steps in victorious living, it also reveals Cliffe's beliefs on the important topics of God, man and Christ. Although he claimed Episcopalian beliefs early in life, he later the New Thought classic "In Tune with the Infinite" by Ralph Waldo Trine and took courses on spiritual healing from Metaphysical Schools which brought him to a new conception of God: "I found the Kingdom-of Heaven within me and, oh, how my ideas of God changed.(3) God to me is all life, all power, all love."(4) God is the name given to that unchangeable principle which is the source of all life, of all existence. As God He is impersonal, but as we come to know Him day by day as expressed in each one of us, He really becomes personal to us...(5)" Man, Cliffe newly concluded, must contain the divine energy for "My mind is part of His divine-mind"(6) and "we are inseparable from God"(7), Cliffe wrote. Man's goal, then, is to grow, developing his latent "God power" since "...if there is an unpardonable sin it is the damming up of God's powers within us." (8) According to Cliffe, attainment of this goal is aided by the impersonal Christ force indwelling every human being. Since "there is no death"(9) a person simply goes to "that plane of thought which you have prepared for yourself" which can loosely be termed "heaven" or "hell."(10) Cliffe's pantheistic viewpoint combats Scripture, promoting man from sinful creature to a microcosm of the "Creator." These a-Christian beliefs have been marketed for centuries by mystics and occultists, often under the thin disguise of Christian terminology which Cliffe favors. If Wierwille did realize Cliffe's alarming beliefs about God, man and Christ, he was knowingly exposing his Ohio congregation to possible great spiritual harm. If Wierwille did not realize Cliffe's non-Christian beliefs, he did not probe Cliffe on doctrinal matters or was theologically naive. In either case, Wierwille did adopt at least one key Cliffe teaching- that positive faith (which Wierwille termed "believing faith" in 1957 and "believing" beginning sometime after 1962) will yield health, happiness, prosperity and success while negative faith (fear) must result in failure, sadness and sickness because this is a law under which every human on earth lives. Wierwille's teaching and terminology closely mimic Cliffe's, as a comparison of their works indicates.(11) While Cliffe heads each chapter of Let Go and Let God with a brief Bible verse he does not attempt to prove his teachings with Scripture. Wierwille, on the other hand, attempts to illustrate from Scripture his theory of "believing" thereby "Christianizing" this spiritist's ideas.(12) One thing is sure. Wierwille's source far his teaching on believing was neither the Holy Spirit nor the Word of God, but Albert Cliffe, who spiritually stood far outside the bounds of biblical Christianity. "

I saw a "WOW" bumper sticker in NYC some years back, and several others. When I looked closer, they were for a radio station. When I did a little checking, I found out the morning show shock-jocks (Opie and Anthony) were trying to promote "Whip 'em-Out-Wednesday", a day for women to flash men on the highway or something. Then again, that has all the class of vpw and lcm, so it might not be irrelevant after all.

Some has been posted here. I can look for it when I have time. Of course, someone else can look for it when THEY have time. Me, I'm just a touch less eager when I find some time, spend 1/2 an hour digging up what appears to answer a question and posting it, and I don't even get "THANK YOU but I was looking for something else..." I should get back around to it at some point, but there were actual threads with Leonard's name in the title in AboutTheWay.

We posted quite a bit of it. If you're willing to look at the posts, you'll see that. I posted one link because I was in a hurry. =============== Leonard's printing house is "Canadian Christian Press." vpw, by his own admission, rushed over to interrupt Leonard's class in progress as soon as he heard of it, and demanded to be allowed to take it. Leonard indulged him. A few months later, vpw returned with others to take it, and vpw retook it. A few months after THAT was the first vpw class called "Receiving the Holy Spirit Today." vpw taught it and mentioned no one. What he told Leonard before this...he asked Leonard for permission to reteach Leonard's class locally one time. Leonard agreed, and added a photo of vpw's class to his scrapbook when vpw sent it to him. vpw continued to teach Leonard's classes. Leonard didn't sue, but he added elaborate copyright notices to his books and became more reluctant to put everything out there, which means vpw slowed down Leonard's ministry. Students of Leonard's class have said that Leonard's mannerisms and speech patterns showed up in pfal, as did his use of "Johnny Jumpup, Maggie Muggins and Henry Bollocco." ============================

As much as I like the idea, I've moved FAR too far away to make it feasible. Unless I hit a big lottery, in which case I'll see about hosting a get-together somewhere. ;) If I want anonymity for pictures, though, I wouldn't use a paper bag. I have at least 1 good wolfman mask for the occasion. :)

COULD he? We KNOW he did! We've discussed it a number of times, including "the way:living in wonderland" because vpw himself mentioned Leonard's class, and one of our posters has taken BOTH classes and met Leonard.

MASH ran for maybe 12 seasons. "Saturday Night Live" started before it and is still running. Is it that?

We know there were times they leaned on staff not to have kids, and the in-residence corps were not only leaned on to not have kids, but they were leaned on to have abortions if there was a pregnancy. At moments like that, the "convenient" doctrinal error of life beginning at birth came in handy- it was used to tell women that this wasn't a child until they're actually in labor.

Your guess would be correct. The "lost episodes" were additional material used on "the Jackie Gleason Show" but the series itself was "the original 39." The Dick Van Dyke Show had 158 regular episodes (plus 1 reunion.) Go, bfh!

Van Johnson did. The Green Hornet/Van Williams was in a 2-parter in Batman, and before that, had done a cameo with Bruce Lee/Kato with one of those windows while Batman and Robin climbed up the wall. Didn't realize it was my turn. ========================== Next show: Amazing how a show can become so well-known and well-watched when there were only 39 episodes.

Any candidate for a Masters in Theology should be well aware that Apologetics has nothing to do with "apologizing", but with forming and stating an "apologia." Rather than making excuses for the Faith, and saying you're sorry for having it, the apologeticist puts forth that it is logical and sensible to be of the Faith. vpw was a lousy Theology student. He probably managed with lots of plagiarism. We do know he picked the "softest" option by studying HOMILETICS and then pretending he knew about Bible History and Bible Languages and so on. From time to time, he made up some embarrassing explanations of words. One of the ones that made me wince was the one for "mortify" in the King James Version. Anyone who knows what a "mortician" is or who Morticia Addams was in the Addams Family should have looked it up in a dictionary. Anyone who knows a touch of Latin could probably rattle off that "mortis" means "death". So, the KJV word "mortify" would obviously mean "kill off." It came from the Greek word "nekrosate" in the same verse. In the Greek, "necro" means "death." Doctors know that necrotic tissue is dead, and many people know (most serious Bible students should know) that a "necromancer" is someone who supposedly deals with the dead using occult methods. So, what explanation was floated around twi? "Mortify- that means 'blow to smithereens.' " As if it said to "use a mortar on", which would be peculiar since the mortar cannon was not in use in 1611 when the KJV was produced. Anyone who sat through the Intermediate heard Earl B say it there, and it came up here and there other places.

Well, "Mork & Mindy's" Mork was INTRODUCED in "Happy Days", and Fonzie appears in the series pilot, but I don't think of that as a "spin-off." So, I'd go with "Joanie Loves Chachi." {Off-topic, Until the other day, I confused Van Johnson-the dancer who appeared on "I Love Lucy" for an episode- with Van Williams- who played Britt Reid/the Green Hornet.)

You say Bruce Lee was one of the main actors of this TV show? Yes, he was. And in Hong Kong, they said he had the title role.

Was that "the Mod Squad"?

Very true. However, it wasn't the matter of just photocopying Martin's work like had been done for other things. Also, the bibliography actually cites the source. So, the hard part was all done by Martin, which might be seen as somewhat deceptive. However, it was done (AFAIK) legally with regards to plagiarism, and not with the BLATANT dishonesty of the previous stuff. Don't confuse James Trimm with Michael Rood. They are 2 different charlatans who have worked together in the past. And Rood has never posted here, nor has twi ever caught him at anything. http://www.seekgod.ca/trfactor2.htm http://www.seekgod.ca/trfactor.htm

No, they were saying that it was normal for scholars to have grad students under them do all the work and write a book, and then the scholar puts his name on the result as "by (name)", (No, I don't know what they were smoking before they said that.) Trimm didn't do that, he just plagiarized.

BTW, the classic mirror skit was a reprise of the one Groucho and Harpo did in "Duck Soup." In the show, Harpo is the one looking into the "mirror."

Van Johnson appeared in the episode immediately preceeding it-"Dancing Star." Harpo Marx appears in the episode "Harpo Marx." Yours again, George.

Juedes has side-by-side comparisons. However, a few books I know off the top of my head: The White Book (RTHST) was Stiles' book in its first edition, with a few words moved around. Later editions included Leonard's work from his class, and Bullinger's "Word Studies on the Holy Spirit" (released under different names.) The Orange Book was a transcript, and was largely a mix of Leonard's class and Bullinger's "How to Enjoy the Bible." ADAN was a compilation of 2 books of Bullinger's- "King Saul and the Witch at Endor- Did the Prophet Samuel Rise at Her Bidding?" and "The Rich Man and Lazarus-an Intermediate State?" along with "the Spirits in Prison." You may notice that only 1 of "vpws" books ends in a question mark, and he ripped off 2 books ending in question marks to "write" it. Someone tried to claim that was some sort of coincidence. The other collaterals were mixes here and there, partly of Kenyon. The 2 books put together by the Research Dept were not ripped off from others- "Jesus Christ Our Promised Seed" and "Jesus Christ Our Passover." However, they say "by Victor Paul Wierwille" on the cover when he didn't do the writing. Someone tried to claim that's perfectly fine and scholars do that all the time.

The Addams Family. However it's spelled. Here's another tack. This television show had Harpo Marx as a guest-star. And Van Johnson.

Ok, the part about them suing the other group over the name, yes, that happened, and yes it's forbidden in the Church Epistles, which twi claim is the part addressed to us and has specific instructions for us, including conduct. The other part, well, that's a matter of who you're asking. They didn't sue for translation, they sued because twi (which is built on plagiarism) put out a book which actually was not from plagiarism (their New Testament translation work from Aramaic), and someone else plagiarized THAT. When twi does it, it's fine, but when someone else plagiarizes THEM it's the same crime it is everywhere else. So, they sued a plagiarizer for plagiarizing them. The guy's posted here before. He spent time trying to assemble a complete collection of all the Aramaic stuff twi put out. A few years after he got it, he claimed he'd completed a translation of his own- but was caught retyping their book like vpw should have been caught retyping other people's books. www.lebtahor.com/truth/trimm/plagiarisms/hrvpage.htm As to his other qualifications, Trimm claims a Doctorate from an unaccredited organization, like vpw. www.lebtahor.com/truth/trimm/falsedoctorate/falsedoctorateclaims.html Similarly, his claims of Judaism are suspect. www.lebtahor.com/truth/trimm/falsejewish/jtrimmjewish.html Is he a cult leader? www.lebtahor.com/truth/trimm/cultleader/cultleader.htm In other news, he also has a history with known ex-twi crackpot Michael Rood. www.seekgod.ca/trfactor2.htm And Trimm's told one group of people one thing while telling another the opposite simultaneously: www.seekgod.ca/rabbiyosef.htm So, it seems everything about James Trimm is a lie. Despite that, he's not actually ex-twi. How about that. www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/8051-james-trimm-the-way/page__p__193280 He's put forth his POV and his advertisements. www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/21037-the-way-international-argues-actual-words-of-the-bible-are-not-doctrine/ www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/21038-federal-court-claims-right-to-regulate-scripture-interpretation/ www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/21322-leaving-a-cult/ www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/21254-which-way/ BTW, this was the group twi targeted: www.greasespotcafe.com/main2/news/latest/the-way-internationals-lawyers-strike-again.html

In hindsight, it's easy to understand a lot more. vpw was both LAZY and INSECURE. He was LAZY and took all sorts of shortcuts. He was INSECURE because his shortcuts were used in place of actually DOING THE WORK. So, like any fraud, he knew he didn't have the foundation of substance the real deals have. He couldn't HONESTLY earn accolades and validation without actually working. Rather than work, he decided to fake it and try for FAKE accolades. While attacking real scholars (those who exceeded his abilities because he was a FAKE scholar), he ALSO wanted the respect of real scholars. He had to attack them because they could expose him, and he had to court them because he was INSECURE. Sad how W@lter C knew (and knows) full well how vpw used other peoples' work- he'd SEEN the books of others kept as a private stash- but still supports that system. I guess for some the idea of making less money and having fewer accolades but doing it honestly just doesn't appeal enough to stop defrauding people if they're willing to invite you to do it.

It's a good idea to reread PoP every few years when in recovery from twi exposure. It's amazing how much the content changes every few years. :) The last time I read it, it was a lot more shocking than the time before, which was already a shock.