WordWolf

The archaic phrasing made it easy for vpw to consult the Greek or whatever to correct errors when he wished, but retain the errors when they suited his purpose. We shouldn't retain errors or lies even when it suits us. Example: In early Genesis, Adam was told to "replenish" the Earth. So, vpw explained why that word was used- but it wasn't, that's the word for "fill." You can still believe there was a previous Fall without the word "replenish" there, but you can't keep it there and be HONEST because "replenish" was a KJV interpolation. There's others, I don't feel like rattling them off right now (the ones I remember offhand.) Philippians 4:13, KJV "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." twi's "literal according to usage" of Philippians 4:13... " I am ready for anything and equal to anything through Him Who infuses inner strength into me." Acts 29 even did a song written around that, and named their 2nd album "Ready for Anything." Philippians 4:13, Amplified Bible. " I have strength for all things in Christ Who empowers me ; I am self-sufficient in Christ’s sufficiency]." How about that! vpw did independent research and just happened to hit upon the exact phrasing used in a paraphrase Bible for something, word for word. Perhaps both vpw and the researcher for the Amplified Bible got the same revelation from God Almighty. Or, maybe, vpw plagiarized yet another person and figured nobody would notice. Yeah. Despite our own training, we don't have to be nasty nor heavy-handed. Many Christians are compassionate and loving-which all of us are supposed to be. (Some of us never got the memo.)

That's why, when I want to do one-season wonders, I make them multiple-choice. I present clues for 3 different obscure shows, separated A, B, C, and if someone can recognize ONE, they get the round. It's possible to answer that way, and I get to ask about really obscure shows.

"A Christmas Carol Burnett Show."

In particular, the NASB is an excellent choice for this. It's a hit among ex-twi'ers because it has the italics- which is the only legitimate reason to prefer the KJV anymore. It is a word-for-word translation, which is the same approach as the KJV. It is greatly superior to the KJV all other ways except nostalgia and dramtic reading. It takes advantage of textual discoveries made in the last 2 centuries, and it uses a consistent translation of words, where you have to spend less time ferreting out in the Greek when a meaning changed because of translator bias- word A is translated word 1 very consistently (not perfectly, of course, but much closer than the KJV.) I've seen it lauded by scholars not familiar with twi- although they preferred other versions for their own reasons, they complimented this one overall. If you want to shock her, you can use her Greek Interlinears to show how the NASB doesn't make the mistake the KJV does in talking about Jesus in early Luke- which is one of 2 passages from the Gospels that shows that twi's doctrine about abortion being ok because before 9 months it's not a baby is completely false- if one actually reads the Bible without bias and without a KJV. If you don't have the references handy for that, let me know and I'll lay it out simply. (I've done it at the GSC before at some point.)

Scatman Cruthers Scavenger Hunt Cloris Leachman

Tim Robbins Cadillac Man Robin Williams

Without the "help files opened", that's pretty much what it sounded like. If you explain yourself a bit better and express yourself less cryptically, things might be nicer for everyone all around without you changing your content in any substantial fashion.

That's it. I will be out of town over the weekend, so talk amongst yourselves. :)

What's going on is that you made it sound like you were saying that people HERE were saying something like that Christmas and Easter were cuss words. Apparently, that isn't what you meant to say, but it looked like that to me, and probably to Waysider. Neither word, of course, was a cuss word. I've read that "Estre" was a pagan holiday, but not that it was a cuss word, whether to the pagans or to the Christians who co-opted it. lcm was fond of making up the most peculiar explanations for words out of whole cloth. He claimed "Christmas" was named for the "Christ MASSACRE", the killing of the children by Herod in the attempt to kill Jesus in the process. He also responded to "Merry Christmas" with "Happy Kill-Christ Day to you, too." Anyone familiar with other holidays could see he was way off base when there's Michaelmas, Candlemas, and so on, named after the MASS celebrated on that particular "holy day." I think we're all glad to be free of lcm at every level, now.

"Last night I held Aladdin's lamp And so I wished that I could stay. Before the thing could answer me Well, someone came and took the lamp away." "Why don't you tell your dreams to me Fantasy will set you free. Close your eyes girl Look inside girl Let the sound take you away."

Wouldn't change the fact that someone made a simple thread for "Merry Christmas" and you've already taken TWO shots in the first page.

Jeremy Piven PCU Jon Favreau

Not everyone would agree your specific approaches would be the best way to proceed for a number of reasons. Many wouldn't be shocked to see you reverse the situation- go to Nero's house, and berate him if he spoke criticisms of vpw, twi, etc., putting you in much the same shoes as his mom for putting him down for NOT choosing twi- whether as a "branding" or "style" or literally as she does with the official organization. When dealing with family, there are times when the 2 by 4 might not be a bad approach, and many, many times when the 2 by 4 is the worst possible approach. When most of us were in twi, it seems that we heard that the only approach to use consistently when people disagreed with us WAS to use the 2 by 4- to berate or condemn them for disagreeing with us. The idea that they could be engaged in discussion or just prayed-for and loved for now didn't come up often- or at all for many of us. twi'ers are NEVER known for their subtlety, and ex-twi'ers are rarely known for it, either.

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and Happy Easter all around! (For those who want to get in early on that last one.) It's nice to not have to censor our speech or thinking, or have to buy into any lockstep thinking like in twi. Out in the world, minority viewpoints are still accepted- at least among the over-25 population who are old enough to know their POV isn't the only one in the world.

Each person needs to decide WHAT is worth getting rid of now and what is worth keeping. With things like GSC content, since it's digital, it's a LOT easier to store a lot of text as digital, say, than a shelf-full of printed out versions of everything. I think it's worth it to keep SOME of the content we've posted here, and have kept some of it- especially stuff I thought was risking deletion by the original posters or was otherwise hard-to-find. I've thought a lot of stuff I didn't save was WORTH saving, but I never got around to saving it.

"Last night I held Aladdin's lamp And so I wished that I could stay. Before the thing could answer me Well, someone came and took the lamp away."

I can offer 2 possibilities. 1 is NOSTALGIA. 1 is FEAR. The world changes all the time. Most of us can embrace some of the changes, given time to adapt. Then there are always people who will go out of their way NOT to. I know of a 90-something year old woman who has made it a goal to understand computers and has progressed over time. I know some 70-somethings who almost have to be dragged along whenever something about computers is discussed, even if it concerns their own interests. So, there is FEAR of new things, fear of the unknown. Look for a rotary phone in a home if you're unsure if someone fears new technology. Look for the VHS player where the DVD player might go. The other thing is NOSTALGIA. If you're used to a relative getting drunk and causing a scene every Christmas or something, that's now part of your routine and it may just not be Christmas without calling Cousin Stewpot a taxi and sending him home. Nostalgia ties into the fear of the new by being the comfort of the old- and missing all the old things no matter if they were good for you. So, fearful of the new, even if it is much better often, rather than look, some people retreat into what they know, even if it is grossly inferior. It's sad, but human.

Tom Petty, "Running Down a Dream."

If that's the criteria, then no wonder I'm unfamiliar with the lyrics of this song.

*checks* I know I don't know this one.

Now I might not get sleep trying to figure this one...

Maybe give us some of the actors, or expand the description. I've found Wikipedia and IMDB useful for finding descriptions and actor lists to work from.

I never saw it, but I think "Curb Your Enthusiasm" qualifies also. Meanwhile, we have a "FREE POST."

That's it.

Here's a triple movie...... A successful publisher finds his life taking a turn for the surreal after a car accident with a jaded lover. After an injury leaves him no alternative but to survive by being placed in cryonic suspension, he begins to have lucid dreams of New York City being attacked by giant robots and scientists disappearing, and a scientist trying to build a new future, while he becomes a secret agent trying to prevent a plan to induce war between China and the UK. Stars Cruise and Cruz, Angelina Jolie, Gwyneth Paltrow, Jude Law, Sir Lawrence Olivier, Michelle Yeoh, Teri Hatcher, and Dame Judi Dench.