WordWolf

You have a vivid imagination, but it's steering you wrong here....

This popular 80s show's characters, of course, all had first names, but 4 of them rarely used them, if ever. One was played by an actor who was remembered for a previous role- and a 4th wall instant in the show poked fun at it. 3 of the main actors had no problem with science fiction. One was in an SF show before this series, one was in an SF movie before this series, and one appeared in a SF movie and 2 SF series' after this show ended. A coincidence, but both actors playing SH characters in 2 different series' both played the same character each time (1 played 1, the other played the other), and both guested in the later show (where they reprised their previous character. This show was more famous than "Firefly." And more people saw the movie based on it, at least in theaters. AFAIK. Oh, and this show in question is NOT a science fiction show. I didn't mention the 4th of the 4 best-known characters. He was played by an actor made famous in a single role where he opposed a title character. That movie was more of a drama, but some people might call it an action movie based on the amount of hitting in a few scenes.

"Wake up! Time to die!" "They don't advertise for killers in the newspaper. That was my profession." "It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?" "Embarrassing." "No sir. Not embarrassing, because no one's ever going to find out they're down here. 'Cause you're gonna spot 'em and you're gonna air 'em out!" "I don't work here anymore. Give it to Holden. He's good." "I did. He can breathe okay, as long as nobody unplugs him." "Home again, home again, jiggidy-jig! Gooood Evening, J.F!" "Enhance 224 to 176. Enhance. Stop. Move in. Stop. Pull out, track right. Stop. Center and pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop. Enhance 34 to 36. Pan right or-and pull back. Stop. Enhance 34 to 46. Pull back. Wait a minute. Go right. Stop. Enhance 57 to 19. Track 45 left. Stop. Enhance 15 to 23. Gimme a hard copy right there." "This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World." " Do you love me?" "I love you." "Do you trust me?" "I trust you." "Is this to be an empathy test? Capillary dilation of the so-called blush response? Fluctuation of the pupil. Involuntary dilation of the iris..." "We call it Voight-Kampff for short."

"Magic Mirror, on the wall, who is the fairest one of all?"

I can't name the band but I can name the song, I think.

I apparently misspoke. I was speaking relative to their airings. I shall update my next clue accordingly. This show's characters, of course, all had first names, but 4 of them rarely used them, if ever. One was played by an actor who was remembered for a previous role- and a 4th wall instant in the show poked fun at it. 3 of the main actors had no problem with science fiction. One was in an SF show before this series, one was in an SF movie before this series, and one appeared in a SF movie and 2 SF series' after this show ended. A coincidence, but both actors playing SH characters in 2 different series' both played the same character each time (1 played 1, the other played the other), and both guested in the later show (where they reprised their previous character. This show was more famous than "Firefly." And more people saw the movie based on it, at least in theaters. AFAIK. Oh, and this show in question is NOT a science fiction show.

Cast Away. A good quote for this thread- I recognize it having never seen the movie.

"Wake up! Time to die!" "They don't advertise for killers in the newspaper. That was my profession." "It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?" "Embarrassing." "No sir. Not embarrassing, because no one's ever going to find out they're down here. 'Cause you're gonna spot 'em and you're gonna air 'em out!" "I don't work here anymore. Give it to Holden. He's good." "I did. He can breathe okay, as long as nobody unplugs him." "Home again, home again, jiggidy-jig! Gooood Evening, J.F!"

No, you're way off.

No, this show was better-known than "Firefly" when they both aired, and is still well-known much later.

"Wake up! Time to die!" "They don't advertise for killers in the newspaper. That was my profession." "It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?"

This show's characters, of course, all had first names, but 4 of them rarely used them, if ever. One was played by an actor who was remembered for a previous role- and a 4th wall instant in the show poked fun at it. 3 of the main actors had no problem with science fiction. One was in an SF show before this series, one was in an SF movie before this series, and one appeared in a SF movie and 2 SF series' after this show ended.

This show's characters, of course, all had first names, but 4 of them rarely used them, if ever. One was played by an actor who was remembered for a previous role- and a 4th wall instant in the show poked fun at it.

I thought the first quote was pretty good, and I actually had to come back to it to recognize the movie. This is "Stand And Deliver."

Based on the later clue, was this "the Lawrence Welk Show?" Oddly enough, I know this show, if at all, from spoofs on cartoons. (The Flintstones, in this case.)

vpw got it from Bullinger. Genesis 1:2 saying the Earth "was tohu va bohu", and Isaiah 45:18 saying God didn't create the world "tohu" (in vain). So, we have the Earth NOT created tohu, but it being tohu in Genesis 1:2. The conclusion was that something changed things to make the Earth "tohu." Bullinger also noted the limited uses of the word "create" in Genesis 1, and claimed every instance that did not say "create" was not an instance of creation, but something closer to renovation or resupply (my wording.) The NIV has a note on Genesis 1:2 saying that the word "was" is "possibly became." I saw that in college when comparing Bibles. You'll have to give me more information. I have no idea what you mean, other than a reference to Genesis 1. Someone said Lucifer made the first heaven??? News to me. What I heard was that God made heaven and earth (the "first" one of each, although, AFAIK, the current one is the same as any previous one, plus any renovations, so this is literally the same planet, albeit one where things may have changed radically so it is metaphorically new.). The heavens included a hierarchy of spirit beings we usually call angels to make things simple, and the pre-eminent of them was "the bright and morning star", aka Lucifer. He became vain and desired worship and to replace the Almighty, so he engineered a revolt- which, predictably, lost, and the losers were cast from heaven to earth. Probably as an immediate result, the earth "became without form and void." Eventually, the title "bright and morning star" is given to Jesus, who uses it at the closing of the Book of Revelation. Mind you, even in twi it bothered me greatly there's no chapter of Scripture that lays this out in a straightforward manner. There's a few verses in Isaiah, a few verses in Ezekiel, and a few verses in Revelation. That's hardly conclusive. The 3 sections may have nothing to do with each other or the same person, and the Revelation verses may only refer to something in the future and not be fulfilled one way in the past and one way in the future. IF the Bullinger account is correct, then a possible impact of some kind to the earth by the exiled angels might produce results consistent with a meteorite collision. Something would hit the earth, the impact point would throw up ash into the sky, blocking out sunlight. Plants would starve due to lack of sunlight. Plant-eaters would starve due to a lack of plants. Meat-eaters would starve due to a lack of plant-eaters. It's one way to look at Genesis 1:2, and it would coincide with the scientists who believe a meteor collision wiped out the dinosaurs. I once saw a television show simulate the expected results of such a collision and ash-cloud. When the sun was blocked almost completely, I recited Genesis 1:2 to myself-and noted it matched the simulation. If the Bullinger account is not correct, then things were made in a progressive order. Curiously, it's the same order the scientists think things developed in. Right now, I believe the account makes it clear God's the reason we're here.

Personally, I'd rather we fold this one into the Name That Tune thread until more players show up, but since it's my turn... In the day we sweat it out in the streets of a runaway American dream.

It's also worth noting that Bart Ehrman's criticisms have been rebutted by other researchers, so one should look at that before drawing any conclusions as to what Ehrman said was true. It's too easy to latch on to what someone WANTS to believe and never look at what the opposing POV says. (This, of course, goes for wanting to automatically disagree with Ehrman as well-I mention this to save time for anyone who was going to point out I hadn't mentioned it.) He's also been discussed on and off, here.

What are the points in the red binder? If you post what they are, I can tell you how I dealt with them in twi, and how I deal with them now.

It's obvious from here, but it's easy to miss the point of Christianity when your group isn't REALLY about Christianity. From the beginning, and FROM HIS OWN ACCOUNTS, vpw never got into preaching because he believed the Bible. He wanted a profession, and his own accounts said that he wanted everyone to listen to him. So, Christianity and the Bible were only MEANS to and END. It was about making a living and attention shown to him. It's easy to dismiss JESUS in a twi-centric theology because HE'S a means to and end, too.

For people who own "Bat Out of Hell," the song "Two Out of 3 Ain't Bad" may be well-known, but otherwise, I doubt it.

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You are correct! It is your turn. You are correct again... Here's the answers... As a reader of the Dresden Files books, I was surprised to find there was a show. I have the boxed set. Eventually, I'll see all the episodes, even though they don't resemble the books very much. Wolf Lake is unusually hard to find online. However, both Quark and ST:TAS can be found for those who want to look. I think Hulu may have TAS on it, which is nice for the US posters.

Here's some unfair, obscure questions, about sort-lived TV shows. Name any ONE of them to get the round. 1) The people that brought you "Get Smart" also made a sci-fi show, spoofing Star Trek and other shows. It starred Richard Benjamin and included Conrad Janis, and had a support staff that would be pretty controversial if the show aired now, not counting the Vegetan-the logical life-form that was plant-based but looked human. 2) Lou Diamond Phillips and Graham Greene were stars in a short-lived drama about a secretive community in the Pacific NorthWest... it was secretive because the community had a lot of werewolves. If they'd tried the show a few years later, it might have done well on SyFy or something. It was a good enough drama to hold the interests of non-genre fans, providing they actually sat down to watch it. 3) A different short-lived TV show DID air on SyFy. It was about a wizard Private Investigator, and was narrated in the first person. It was based on a series of books. 4) This animated show lasted 1 1/2 seasons but is still remembered in some circles. It had some good writers but at least 1 problem because one of the animators had a form of color blindness- which meant that some tough guys wore pink uniforms and there was a lot of pink used onscreen at times. It was a Sci Fi show.

Well, if intellectual honesty and integrity is the main thing, that's a big problem. It does not surprise me that some religious organizations see it more important to maintain order-and enforce conformity- in the organization. Of course, if the entire staff was encouraged to seek new directions, success could mean anarchy in the group. Then again, it could mean discovering a lot of new ground. Either way, it's a lot of work and most organizations wouldn't want that-not just to maintain day-to-day order. If they're responsible to their denominations, I could see getting static for letting staff veer from the Official Party Line. Also, most organizations like to have their people think they're already at the pinnacle of accuracy, that they've "arrived" already.