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Was his best friend named after a pilgrimage to Mecca?

Any chance this is "Ocean's 11"?

This is an encore presentation of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Quest."

We've mentioned that before, and he doesn't get it. As usual, I've just gone elsewhere for an idea of what's in the video. It's about Ron Wyatt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt "Ronald Eldon Wyatt (1933 – August 4, 1999) was an adventurer and former nurse anesthetist noted for advocating the Durupınar site as the site of Noah's Ark, among other Bible-related pseudoarchaeology. His claims were dismissed by scientists, historians, biblical scholars, and even by leaders in his own Seventh-day Adventist Church..." "While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars." etc. etc.

We'll never have enough to be CONCLUSIVE, but we know a lot about what happened. lcm HIMSELF gave the account, when he was applauding vpw and lauding him to the skies in "vp and me." We had the account in the thread "vp and me in wonderland." ""Dr and LCM always fought for people to stay in the Corps. There was an incident of a guy in the Corps who all of a sudden went "gooney-bird". He started to babble and not make sense. LCM worked hard with the guy to help him but he was incoherent. Dr, when he met him, confronted him by asking- 'Son, how come you're letting your mind get all scrambled?' The guy answered unintelligibly and Dr told him that it would be best for him just to pack his bags and go home. The guy understood that. He left. LCM spent many hours and many long distance phone calls trying to make sure the guy had gotten home from his bus ride home safely. Not being able to verify his location, he was concerned. Dr told him to move on. There's nothing you can do, he'll show up at home soon enough. A week later the guy did show up at home." Mind you, lcm had a BA in Psychology, and SHOULD have been able to give some USEFUL description here, but he did not. lcm ATTEMPTED to do SOMETHING with the guy. vpw-whose only background in Psychology was POSSIBLY Jay Adams' book "Competent to Counsel" (recommended to the corps and advocating CONFRONTING people)- CONFONTED a man with an obvious physical problem. He needed a medical evaluation. He could have had a stroke, a critical vitamin deficiency, or any of a number of other things. vpw's answer? "Pack your bags and go home." lcm-like any normal person- worried that he'd get home safely. After all, it was a frighteningly CALLOUS and USELESS thing to take him, get NO medical help, NO medical EVALUATION, then dump him on a series of buses to get home EVENTUALLY. But we have no way of knowing anything but that he got home, days later. We don't know the authorities WEREN'T called. We don't know another passenger didn't take pity on him and talk him through stops for food and rest for a day or something. We know he was able to pack, more or less. We don't know what the problem was or if he was going to drop dead on the bus. (There was no medical evaluation. Even a school has a nurse on hand to do an evaluation and determine if a hospital is needed. A paramedic would have been something. But there was no preparation at the "facility" of any kind.) We know he was incoherent. We do not know why or if it was a symptom of something more dangerous. vpw just kicked him off-grounds and said to forget about him. This was a pretty standard policy with twi. One ex-WOW said they had a horrible incident on the field, and was traumatized. They were put on a bus and told to go home. They took several days to get home as well because they were traumatized and didn't have the clarity of mind to get home safely. They got lost at an early stop and had a SECOND traumatic experience in trying to get home while being mentally incapable. So, MAYBE the guy was suddenly and mysteriously all better and made a tour of his rip home. MAYBE the guy collapsed on a bus and local help was gotten for him. Either outcome is possible because he was put on a bus right after an acute psychiatric incident with no medical evaluation. Any place would be legally liable for placing someone in danger like that. They had a fiduciary responsibility toward the students in their program. But vpw saw all the responsibility go ONE WAY-FROM the students. He never saw all the things HE OWED them-which is why he never offered them. I believe devils can cause problems, but that doesn't mean medical attention is dismissed. Some people believe devils can exploit existing medical conditions and in that case, getting proper medical care would thwart them. But in twi, it was simple-and LAZY and UNEDUCATED- to blame the supernatural for every intangible problem. This added the convenience of giving them the excuse of not offering tangible solutions.

Cannonball Run II Dean Martin Oceans Eleven (the original)

That's it. Go.

Right gender, wrong artist. Think MORE marketing. She's still making money on albums and tours. And, occasionally, MOVIES.

I'd certainly be more interested in reading that than watching 49 minutes of video.

This one's from 1984. "Some boys kiss me, some boys hug me. I think they're okay. If they don't give me proper credit I just walk away. They can beg and they can plead But they can't see the light, that's right. 'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash Is always Mister Right." "Some boys romance, some boys slow dance That's all right with me. If they can't raise my interest then I have to let them be. Some boys try and some boys lie but I don't let them play, no way, no way. Only boys that save their pennies Make my rainy day." "Boys may come and boys may go And that's all right, you see. Experience has made me rich And now they're after me." Think "artist with passable talent and excellent marketing skills".

If you watched music videos in the 80s, I guarantee you saw this one in heavy rotation at points.

Correct. Fillon's character dressed as "a space cowboy" for Halloween and it was Mal Reynolds' clothes. Fillon supposedly added the "two by two" thing when putting the gloves on. Of course, he's not the only actor who's moved on since then from the Firefly cast. Summer Glau and Morena Beccarin have/had TV shows, too. I think Jewel Staithe did, too.

"Look at them yoyos. That's the way you do it. You play the guitar on the MTV."

The closest thing I ever saw to actual training in counseling was to recommend Jay Adams' book, "Competent to Counsel." It seemed to recommend against formal training in counseling, and its approach was called "nouthetic". According to the book, it meant confronting people having incidents and getting them to stop faking it. I'm sure that would be of use with SOME people, but with others, that would be horribly bad. All those with chemical imbalances don't need to be confronted, they need a miraculous healing or chemicals to balance coupled with some actual counseling. Hmm...that must be where vpw got his idea, when that guy in the middle of a meeting became incoherent and so on. vpw CONFRONTED HIM on it- when it was obviously not INTENDED but something BIOLOGICAL to anyone with an ounce of skill in Biology, medicine, or Psychology- and sent the guy home. A WEEK later, he arrived home. We never heard of the ordeal he went through, suffering from an obvious, acute incident of an undiagnosed psychiatric problem. Was it a critical dietary deficiency? Chemical imbalance in the brain? A stroke? Could he have dropped dead on the bus? Why did it take a whole week of bus to bus before he got home? vpw never gave him a second thought, either- he told lcm to stop worrying. vpw set the standard for not caring, for incompetent preparation and for confrontational "counseling."

This one's from 1984. "Some boys kiss me, some boys hug me. I think they're okay. If they don't give me proper credit I just walk away. They can beg and they can plead But they can't see the light, that's right. 'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash Is always Mister Right." "Some boys romance, some boys slow dance That's all right with me. If they can't raise my interest then I have to let them be. Some boys try and some boys lie but I don't let them play, no way, no way. Only boys that save their pennies Make my rainy day."

Next one. This show keeps making references to Firefly. One character spoke Chinese, then claimed he doesn't know it-but saw it on a TV show. Someone dressed up as a "space cowboy" for Halloween. Someone put on blue gloves, then stretched them by stretching the first 2 fingers on each hand. ("Two by two, hands of blue.") There's a perfectly good reason the writers (and an actor) keep sneaking in the references, too.....

"PAPERBACK WRITER."

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You have to read the first post to make sense of any round, Human. It's a mix of "Don't Be Afraid of the Dark" and "the Dark Knight." So, "Don't Be Afraid of the Dark Knight."

This one's from 1984. "They can beg and they can plead But they can't see the light, that's right. 'Cause the boy with the cold hard cash Is always Mister Right" "Some boys try and some boys lie but I don't let them play, no way, no way. Only boys that save their pennies Make my rainy day."

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Depends. Is it based on a novel by a man named Lear?

Correct.

Al Pacino stars as a detective who travels with a ship to investigate ships sinking and a series of murders. He encounters an advanced submarine (the Nautilus) and its Captain, and suspects a woman he met (played by Ellen Barkin) may be responsible for the killings.

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