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Only 4 animals are capable of producing an actual roar. The cougar cannot-and is not native to Europe, Asia, or Africa. There are the lion, the tiger, the leopard and the jaguar all capable of the roar. The jaguar is a native solely to the Americas. That leaves the other 3. Much of the tiger's roar is sub-sonic to what humans can hear, so they sound less impressive to us- and they use it to communicate with other tigers. Leopards can roar, but use them less than even tigers, since they are solitary animals. The English versions I have call it a lion, and that is probably a correct translation. If someone's got a research book handy, they can add more to that.

It was in "the Way:Living in Love" long before that. page 177 "After I met Rosalind Rinker in Indiana, I invited her to visit us in Payne, and she came for a week that summer of 1942. Maybe it was August. I remember it was near the end of summer, and she used to dog me on the Bible being the Word of God. She talked to me about getting my own life in alignment and harmony with the Bible. She was the one who had me make out lists of the good things I'd done, that was about half a page, and all the bad things, that amounted to 10 or 12 pages. She was off on that part, but the Bible as the Word of God, she really pushed that one. And I'd never heard that in all my years of school-not believing it anyway." vpw had been a pastor for over a year before this time. He'd completed work for his masters and his doctorate, and served for over a year as a pastor. And, according to vpw, during all that, he never believed the Bible was the Word of God. On what was he basing all his work- his papers, his sermons?

"Batman" (with Michael Keaton as Batman.) ========================== "Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb."

Ok, let's move this along. It's Human's turn for naming the artist. The first song was "The Spirit of Radio", and the second one was "Tom Sawyer." Both are fairly well-known songs from classic rock. At the moment, they're not fairly well-known among the posters at the GSC, apparently. Go, Human.

The short answer: we don't know for certain, but I think so. The longer answer: We can say with confidence that vpw was a lazy and indifferent plagiarist. We do know that he originally was not a Trinitarian because we've even seen old correspondence of his that included a Trinitarian salutation in the letter. Obviously, sometime after that, he changed what he thought and taught. We do know that he basically cobbled together collections of thoughts of other men and presented them-even when he didn't fully understand them. (Rare exceptions seem to include his "God Almighty is ok with orgies" thing.) We do know that Lamsa was not a Trinitarian. We know that vpw interacted with Lamsa in person before his change in doctrine. We know that vpw ripped off some of Lamsa's stuff and part of his style. So, it seems to me the evidence all points in that direction.

"I feel the need, the need for speed!"

You're with me so far. "Modern-day warrior, mean, mean stride" "Though his mind is not for rent, Don't put him down as arrogant. His reserve, a quiet defense Riding out the day's events. The river. What you say about his company Is what you say about society. Catch the mist, catch the myth. Catch the mystery, catch the drift. The world is, the world is Love and life are deep Maybe as his skies are wide." "He gets high on you And the space he invades He gets by on you. No his mind is not for rent To any god or government. Always hopeful, yet discontent. He knows changes aren't permanent... But change is. What you say about his company Is what you say about society. Catch the witness, catch the wit Catch the spirit, catch the spit The world is, the world is Love and life are deep Maybe as his eyes are wide." "He gets high on you. And the energy you trade He gets right on to the friction of the day."

Is that what I actually said? Let's see.... So, you asked about how knowing lcm was working at UPS or whatever enhanced anyone's eternal salvation. It was a stupid question, so I said so in a nicer way. lcm's job at UPS is a non-issue cocnerning people's eternal salvation. DUUUUUHHH. I can't tell if you're legitimately that slow, but you seem fairly able to communicate properly, so it seems you're doing that DELIBERATELY. In discussions about lcm's job, discussing eternal salvation of complete strangers to him is a non-issue and off-topic. In discussions about eternal salvation, discussion lcm working at UPS is a non-issue and off-topic. But, then, you brought up BOTH on a thread about NEITHER and blamed me for them being non-issues. I really was willing to let it go, and be the adult and leave you alone about your foolishness. What we saw before: Ralph D, once upon a time, reported about a number of incidents- which we have documentation on this website which people can read, and have discussed in detail, which he has even discussed here- and you mistakenly conflated them into ONE incident. Then you reported that "Passing of the Patriarch" was about something it had nothing to do with, because you didn't know any better. Someone corrected you. You got hostile and insisted you were correct. People linked you to the document so you can read it yourself- instead of being someone who never read a document who was telling people who read it what it said-and getting it all wrong. You refused, and we dropped it. I figured you'd later read the thing and were embarassed you had been so incorrect and yet so strident about it and being wrong, that you would rather just never mention it again than admit you'd made such an elementary mistake. Being an adult, I was willing to just let that go. I was wrong about that-I thought too much of you. Apparently, you still haven't read it, and instead of the fault being yours for misunderstanding something, the fault is ours for pointing out you made a big mistake. THIS is why we post. We keep saying that. You keep missing that. Why bother coming here when it so offends your sensibilities?

I once had a conversation with someone who was confusing "the Incredibles" with "The Incredible Mister Limpet." I still have no idea how that happened. But this movie is obviously "the Incredibles." What?

Correct, just to make it official.

"He gets high on you And the space he invades He gets by on you. No his mind is not for rent To any god or government. Always hopeful, yet discontent. He knows changes aren't permanent... But change is. What you say about his company Is what you say about society. Catch the witness, catch the wit Catch the spirit, catch the spit The world is, the world is Love and life are deep Maybe as his eyes are wide." "He gets high on you. And the energy you trade He gets right on to the friction of the day."

I vaguely recall hearing something about the various ex-twi groups (read that ces/stfi) briefly tried using one ex-corps site or something as a recruitment ground. I didn't hear anything about it after that, so I imagine it wasn't as successful as they'd hoped. Then again, some of them tried to use the GSC as one as well and that didn't go so well for them, either. My "favorite" recruitment strategy was years ago on a messageboard for Christians completely unrelated to anything ex-twi. A ces/stfi staffer arrived. With his first post, he said something to the effect of "Hello, fellow Christians. I've found this Christian website just now that seems different. Can you look it over and tell me what you think?" And posted a link to his group's website. I responded immediately, greeting him by name, and pointing out how a more honest invitation might have looked, and asked if he thought Jesus would approve of intentionally deceiving Christians. He apparently headed off to greener pastures in cyberspace because I never saw him post there again. He did try another commercial HERE after that, but not there. But, really, IMHO, the twi and EX-twi communities, IMHO, are in a zero-sum game at best. When one group gets more members, it's because another one LOST members and they switched groups. With places like the GSC in operation, it's a lot easier to see the groups unable to get new, young people like the hippies vpw hijacked. So, the entire phenomenon overall is shrinking every year as fewer people join than die off of old age or actually leave the whole thing. I think it will not reach zero people entirely for maybe another 30-40 years, but as it is now, all together they're one tiny thing that will only continue to get tinier because others can offer what they have, only better.

Charles Grodin the Great Muppet Caper John Cleese

"Woman, please! I am not from Havana!" "What did you expect? "Welcome, sonny"? "Make yourself at home"? "Marry my daughter"? You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons." "Did you hear that? Now it's "please". This morning, I couldn't get the time of day."

No, but I think he's gotten a taste of what punishment is like for his evil deeds. I don't know if he even understands that he did evil deeds or what they were- vpw certainly had no true understanding in his heart that what he did was wrong. He knew OTHERS considered them wrong and hid them, but he convinced himself- and lcm- that what he was doing was just fine. If there is any form of literal Hell, then lcm's sins coming back to haunt him is strictly "amateur hour" by comparison. It's a non-issue. You seem to be the only one posting who thinks that it's an issue and relevant to why we discuss what was done and what was happened. Honestly- people keep posting the answer to Why We Post (to warn others so they can either heal or avoid twi and its toxic doctrines and conduct), and you keep completely ignoring the answers and pretending it's all about something else, or that the posters here are all angry and emotional when posting warnings and discussing evil deeds when that's usually NOT the case. I suppose that makes it a LOT easier to dismiss everything we say, which saves you a lot of time even entertaining whether we bring anything useful to the table.

No, sorry. I need to post more clues.

I know the extra credit question. Sometime this past year, I've skimmed past something about one of the shows you mentioned, but the memory isn't clicking yet. Was the title character of either show also a member of Earth-S' Shazam's Squadron of Justice?

Ok, I'll try again. Different song, same artist. "No his mind is not for rent To any god or government. Always hopeful, yet discontent. He knows changes aren't permanent... But change is."

"Begin the day with a friendly voice A companion unobtrusive. Plays that song that's so elusive And the magic music makes your morning mood. Off on your way, hit the open road There is magic at your fingers For the spirit ever lingers Undemanding contact in your happy solitude. Invisible airwaves crackle with life. Bright antennae bristle with the energy. Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free. All this machinery making modern music Can still be open-hearted. Not so coldly charted it's really just A question of your honesty, yeah, your honesty. One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter the illusion of integrity, yeah. Invisible airwaves crackle with life Bright antennae bristle with the energy. Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free. For the words of the prophets were written on the studio wall. Concert hall. And echoes with the sounds of salesmen. Of salesmen. Of salesmen!" This song has gotten airplay for over 30 years.

9 to 5 Lily Tomlin the Incredible Shrinking Woman

In NYC, until lcm drew his line in the sand and demanded an oath of loyalty, it was possible to spot the bumper stickers. Since then, it's harder than finding an honest politician. I don't remember ever SEEING one since 1990.

True Lies Arnold Schwarzenegger the Expendables

"Begin the day with a friendly voice A companion unobtrusive. Plays that song that's so elusive And the magic music makes your morning mood. Off on your way, hit the open road There is magic at your fingers For the spirit ever lingers Undemanding contact in your happy solitude. Invisible airwaves crackle with life. Bright antennae bristle with the energy. Emotional feedback on timeless wavelength Bearing a gift beyond price, almost free. All this machinery making modern music Can still be open-hearted. Not so coldly charted it's really just A question of your honesty, yeah, your honesty. One likes to believe in the freedom of music But glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter the illusion of integrity, yeah."

Ok, I can link from here. Let's go a little less obvious. I Love Trouble Nick Nolte 48 Hours