WordWolf

Depends on priorities. If learning is a goal in itself, one will ENJOY learning all their life. If learning is a means to survive, one will make time to learn most or all of their life. If learning was just a means to get the degree to secure a career, then that's as far as the learning will go.

I think the CONCEPT of Superman 4 was a good one. With children afraid of a world destroyed by nuclear war, why WOULDN'T Superman try to prevent it? This concept's been revisited in various forms. One was during "Armageddon 2001", when one possible future showed the Superman of 2001 (10 years in the future) eliminating all nuclear weapons and ordering the nations to stand down.

vpw's conception seemed to be to exploit whoever and whatever he could, construct a veneer that pretended to be Christian and display it whenever anyone checked, and when possible, codify the exploitation into a formal program. "Needs-basis doctrine", "plurality giving", charging people to go wow, charging people above costs to go into the corps, etc. If the tithe is considered exploitative, the idea of giving everything above your immediate need should be considered doubly so. After all, if you've determined you only need NOW 20% of your net pay, and you "abundantly shared" 80%, and an emergency arose beyond your 20%, what would twi say? Would they give some back and offer what assistance they could (even if it's just "sit with a loved one while we wait for them to come out of a coma"), or would they condemn you with a platitude about poor stewardship and refuse to hand back even a penny of what you THOUGHT you didn't need? "There's no need to save for the future or invest- give it to twi and have treasures in heaven."

I lean towards Option 2, either alone or with others. A) We already know, beyond any reasonable doubt, that vpw was a frequent liar, and exaggerated whenever he wasn't lying. B) We already know, as documented by twi, that Harry's business practices were less-than-perfectly-ethical. IIRC, he was the one that advised vpw to "buy" the furniture for the pfal set, use it, then immediately return it for a full refund, saying it didn't suit him. That's as unethical as the later twi standard of the 90s/00s- buy a big TV for a class return it immediately after a class Honestly, if the man's business with FURNITURE was as successful as he claimed, he could easily have gotten good furniture TO KEEP for the filming of the pfal class, either through his own work, or through satisfied business contacts who would give him a wholesale discount and so on.

If it wasn't the Quest for Peace, then it HAD to be SUPERMAN 3.

Preminger replaces Sanders, Wallach replaced Preminger. The difference between Wallach and Preminger was obvious, as was Gorshin to Astin and Newmar to Kitt. Even as a small child, that bothered me. No reference it was "a new Riddler" or anything, a successor or anything.

If you're going to bring a different actor in when a character returns, at least try to fool someone and make them look a LITTLE alike. In what world does Eli Wallach look like Otto Preminger, or either look like George Sanders?

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At some point, I'm confident I've heard Barker use the line. After I posted, I realized I probably had it reversed and it was the OLD Price is Right.

Taking a wild shot here..... "How Green Was My Valley of the Dolls"??

Any chance this is the new "Price is Right"?

I'm checking in, but I have no idea other than "movie I haven't seen." That's a very popular movie, BTW.

I noticed no direct quote that someone said "three months is ínordinate'". That's probably because nobody said it. waysider made a different point when he used the word "inordinate" and refuted your previous assertion. Hm. Could this be another change of subject meant to act as a smokescreen? What's it trying to draw attention from? Shouldn't be too hard to find on a short thread... That's one point....

You may not have personally addressed it to him (or me), but it DID sound like the one-post drive-by posters that still worship vpw's system and want us to stop pointing out how it was based on lies and flaws. One of their usual tactics is to say that-if we're still talking about all of it and pointing out any negatives- that we're consumed by bitterness, spend all our free time here, and accomplish nothing else in our lives beyond what's posted here. You may not have intended to sound ANYTHING like them or mean ANYTHING like that, but it sure sounded that way.

Well, since we made much the same points, it certainly will affect my posting style in the future. I agree with PatAnswer's post and am glad it was posted.

I'd like to thank John for confirming that vpw recommended a 3-month period of avoiding television and written media (all media, really) and instead spending that 3-month period on twi materials, and that, once we did, we wouldn't recognize ourselves.

Well, I'll open this one up. Although I liked the song when it got airplay, apparently it wasn't well-known. This was "King of the New York Streets," by Bronx-born Dion de Mucci. FREE POST.

When in those closed groups, vpw sometimes mentioned that our modern society was hung up on sexual mores and compared it negatively to some (apparently imaginary) African tribes where the father iniated his daughters into intimate relations. Curiously, NOBODY can find such a reference ANYWHERE, even a FICTIONAL one other than in vpw's comments. It remains especially curious for a group supposedly modeled after the Christians of the first-century AD to completely discard the morals of those Christians when in private- vpw was de facto condemning their morals when he said this. In fact, because he freely quoted in public verses about sexual relations belonging only in marriage and solely between that husband and wife, it was more than confusing to many people to hear he was saying the opposite in private and urging them to keep that information in their "lockbox."

This song's from 1989, but I thought there was a reason it might be recognized, especially if I posted it right now. Maybe not. "People called me the scandalizer. The world was my appetizer. I turned gangs into fertilizer." "I broke hearts like window panes For breakfast I'd eat nails and chains To my kingdom I'd proclaim" "I floored my accelerator All the way to the equator. Just a local gladiator." "Well, I was only sixteen years old So what could I have known? In my mind these passing years The legend sure has grown. People come from miles around To see my royal tenement crown Always up and never down." "Schools gave me nothing needed To my throne I proceeded Every warning went unheeded." "I stood tall from all this feeling I bumped my head on heaven's ceiling Shooting dice and double-dealing." "Each time I jumped behind the wheel Of a pin-striped custom Oldsmobile The guys would bow and the girls would squeal." "Local bullies I deflated Back street jive that I translated Top Ten girls were all that I dated." "I didn't need no bodyguard I just ruled from my backyard Living fast, living hard." "Well, I was wise in my own eyes. I awoke one day and I realized You know this attitude comes from cocaine lies."

That's it.

"...and when you're done, you won't recognize yourself!" NOW does it ring a bell?

A man discovers he has a severely autistic brother, who has been living in an institution since he was believed to have killed a notorious outlaw who terrorized the town of Shinbone. Stars Tom Cruise and John Wayne, with John Ford directing.

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"Well, I was only sixteen years old So what could I have known? In my mind these passing years The legend sure has grown. People come from miles around To see my royal tenement crown Always up and never down." "Schools gave me nothing needed To my throne I proceeded Every warning went unheeded." "I stood tall from all this feeling I bumped my head on heaven's ceiling Shooting dice and double-dealing." "Each time I jumped behind the wheel Of a pin-striped custom Oldsmobile The guys would bow and the girls would squeal." "Local bullies I deflated Back street jive that I translated Top Ten girls were all that I dated." "I didn't need no bodyguard I just ruled from my backyard Living fast, living hard." "Well, I was wise in my own eyes. I awoke one day and I realized You know this attitude comes from cocaine lies."

"Well, I was only sixteen years old So what could I have known? In my mind these passing years The legend sure has grown. People come from miles around To see my royal tenement crown Always up and never down." "Schools gave me nothing needed To my throne I proceeded Every warning went unheeded." "I stood tall from all this feeling I bumped my head on heaven's ceiling Shooting dice and double-dealing."