WordWolf

Let's go obscure again. Answer ANY to take the round. A) This failed show could be seen as an attempt to remake "Gilligan's Island." 6 survivors of nuclear war tried to survive together on a farm and rebuild civilization. Yes, a wacky comedy set post-apocalypse. There was a schoolteacher, a homeless man (no longer homeless, he's on a farm), a radical feminist bookstore employee, a "research biologist" (he was stated to be a PATHOLOGIST and it came up in the dialogue how he missed doing analyses of cadavers), a hair salon employee, and a venture capitalist. 13 episodes were planned, 10 were aired before Fox pulled the plug. B) This MTV game-show had people sitting in a fake living room and served snacks in between the rounds while the contestants answered questions somewhat pretending to watch television and channel-surf. Adam Sandler was one host, as was Colin Quinn, Kari Wuhrer and Denis Leary, but Ken Ober started it off. The premise was that he set up his basement to host a game-show. Contestants sat belted into recliners. I loved watching them go to commercial break...the contestants would get snacks. Some would be lowered, but if it was a party food like cereal or popcorn, they had to get their bowl over their head fast as a rain of the stuff came down. It lasted for 5 seasons. C) This Comedy Central game-show had experts in pop culture that had to be out-smarted. 3 were regulars, and a 4th chair rotated among specialists in specific pop culture subjects. Occasionally, an expert was replaced- the music one was changed, and the Star Wars one who rotated in was different as well.

Hey- so long as the link doesn't END with those, that's perfectly fine. Val Kilmer Real Genius William Atherton

That's it.... that her face, at first just ghostly, turned a whiter shade of pale"." Your turn.

There's 2 things about the Beatles- the music and the zeitgeist. As for the music, much of it stands the test of time and I'll listen to it or sing along depending on the song. As for the zeitgeist, they were in the right place at the right time with the message that the kids wanted to hear. Naturally that took off. If you give even a NONSENSE message, but the kids want to hear it, you'll have a fanbase, even if it's only the easiest to lead.

Talking about perception being everything... You grew up in the USA. You had preconceived ideas about Christianity before pfal. You hadn't articulated them as preconceived ideas. But you'd heard of Christianity, you'd heard of Christians, you'd had some kind of exposure, one way or another. So, unless your brain was missing functionality in most of the cognition centers, you had SOME preconceived ideas. (If the other case was true, you wouldn't be able to post here and form sentences.) If anyone was going around, calling difficult students "sodomizers", then the students didn't need to help make them look stupid. Their PERCEPTION was that they were serving God Almighty. Your PERCEPTION was that they were serving the evil one. Then there was the reality, where all of you were serving organizations but didn't perceive that. Apparently, their church-group was fine with them breaking the law and the spirit of the law. So was vpw, who had many such steps in getting pfal to you locally. twi's kept that up, too- I think they're still telling people to get big TVs for classes and returning them for full refunds if they can get them. They were probably safe from physical violence. I never heard anyone advocate or threaten violence against anyone on the field, only at Root locales, like the Corps or the ROA. Your PRESENT perception is that the stolen materials were "real spiritual light rather than the religious conterfeit." That's an interesting perception.

"We skipped the light fandango. Turned cartwheels 'cross the floor. I was feeling kinda seasick, but the crowd called out for more. The room was humming harder as the ceiling flew away. When we called out for another drink the waiter brought a tray. And so it was that later as the miller told his tale"

Let's go obscure again. Answer ANY to take the round. A) This failed show could be seen as an attempt to remake "Gilligan's Island." 6 survivors of nuclear war tried to survive together on a farm and rebuild civilization. Yes, a wacky comedy set post-apocalypse. B) This MTV game-show had people sitting in a fake living room and served snacks in between the rounds while the contestants answered questions somewhat pretending to watch television and channel-surf. Adam Sandler was one host. C) This Comedy Central game-show had experts in pop culture that had to be out-smarted. 3 were regulars, and a 4th chair rotated among specialists in specific pop culture subjects.

"We skipped the light fandango. Turned cartwheels 'cross the floor. I was feeling kinda seasick, but the crowd called out for more."

I'd question that being fair, but you've already seen me use this show in a round, so I think you'd know I'd get it. Let's see.....

No bites? Ok, how about I swap the last guy? Peter O'Toole King Ralph John Hurt Can't tell me you don't know him. Richard Griffiths is easily spotted as Uncle Vernon Dursley in 7 of the 8 movies of a popular series about a boy wizard. John Hurt has been in a LOT of things.

Nicely phrased, from both of you.

"We skipped the light fandango. Turned cartwheels 'cross the floor."

Freddie Prinze Sr and the "other Chico." Eddie Albert. I know him entirely from this show and Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory. I remember, vaguely, Della Reese from there. Scatman Crothers was a LOT more recognizable. "Stick out your can, 'cause here comes the Garbage-Man!" It confused me horribly to think that Mexicans looked exactly like Puerto Ricans when I was a kid. It didn't occur to me that the "Mexican" was played by a Puerto Rican. (I could have gotten this one if I'd had a few hours to log in.)

Automatically rejecting anything old just because it's not new is foolish. However, we're talking about the foolishness of rejecting the new and embracing the old JUST because it's old. That's demonstrably foolish. It's like seeing characters like "Disco Stu" who can't grow past their glory moments of decades ago, in the 70s and 80s. To see it in real life is sad and cliched. It's watching someone refuse to grow up. To look back at past decades- the styles and fads, is to look back at silliness to a degree because styles and fads ARE silly to a degree. They're popular at a moment in time for arbitrary reasons (generally) and returning to them for arbitrary reasons when you're the ONLY one who's trying to return to an old fad is just sad.

Yeah- when lcm was just getting the big chair as 2nd grand poobah, vpw announced that his grandson Luke S would be the 3rd grand poobah after lcm. lcm hadn't even had a chance to put a tushie-print into the chair when vpw was already announcing lcm's successor. Granted, Luke was a kid at the time, but still. When reality intruded, Luke S was nowhere near trying to reclaim vpw's "legacy. So, some poor kid was indoctrinated to be handed it. Think about it- the kid was given the same name AT BIRTH. All through his childhood, he was fed a line of bull about how his namesake (plagiarist, rapist, felon in general) was some great one and how the kid had to pick things up from there and carry them in some noble calling. So, all the aging 70s hipsters who refused to move on with their lives pretended the 70s zeitgeist could be captured in a bottle, and told the poor kid he had to do it. He's been fed a steady diet of recordings of vpw with nothing about how he was a complete FRAUD. Poor kid had no chance. I'm hoping, as he gets older, maybe hits 25, 30 or so, that he realizes what they did to him and decides to make a life for himself and distance himself from the name with which he was cursed.

My first class? 7 of us were signed up. 6 of us made it to Session 1. 3 of us made it to Session 12. That was me, the wife of a coordinator, and the son of a coordinator. In fairness, all 3 of the remaining 3 stuck around... In the context of "perception was everything", that means the PERCEPTION of no student left behind, via MLM. We certainly were given that PERCEPTION, and if anyone WAS left behind, it was their fault and their choice, so it didn't count.

Dire Straits, "Walk of Life."

"The Three Musketeers"?

Peter O'Toole King Ralph Richard Griffiths

Arnold Schwarzenegger Twins Danny de Vito

I agree. vpw was willing to go in KNOWING he was deceiving people completely, which the current people, for all their faults, aren't prepared to do. (Their deceptions are accidental, and they THINK they're doing the right thing.) vpw tapped into a genuine movement of God among people and subverted it- but the current remnants aren't doing that and can't. If they try that "we have the secret knowledge" business in the information age, it will only be successful for the naive, the inept, and the uneducated. That's a very limited audience, and it's a hard sell for those people to offer techniques to do supposed research. It's counter-intuitive. So, vpw was in the "right" place at the "right" time and was fully prepared to deceive people entirely. That's just not happening here. This is, what, less than 100 Christians NOW? In another 20 years, I'd expect that number to be more than ALL the ex-twi movements PUT TOGETHER (with this one less than 20 people entirely.) Look at the numbers- tiny groups of youngsters, many offspring raised into this, and tiny groups of aging ex-twi people. That's how you shut down a group, not how you grow it...

That's it. IMHO, the 2nd and 3rd most recognizable lines in the movie.

No. They're young, naive, and lied-to. You remember what that was like.... The worst part is, they have no idea that it has nothing at all to do with them. It's all about the insecurities of the previous generations, clinging to nostalgia with large amounts of denial, trying to produce some sort of copy of their nostalgic memories despite the steadfast refusal of reality to cooperate.

"Light, of my life. I'm not gonna hurt ya. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I said, I'm not gonna hurt ya. I'm just going to bash your brains in." "Wendy, I'm home./

Correct- each actor has played Hamlet in a movie of the same name.