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Ok, that's "Pretty in Pink."

I didn't mean to derail the thread. In other news, cult leaders, besides lying a lot and spinning tales, apparently also try to set up their own personal paramilitary organizations. In L Ron Hubbard's case, that was his "Sea Org." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Org http://www.xenu.net/archive/so/ http://exscientologykids.com/sea-org-2/ http://leavingscientology.wordpress.com/leaving-the-so/ http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/06/scientology-s-sea-org-an-escape-story-for-katie-holmes-and-suri-cruise.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168225/Tom-Cruise-Katie-Holmes-divorce-Inside-Scientologys-Sea-Org-Suri-faced-joining.html

Caught something in passing the other day, on television. Someone was saying that the US's current cults were now focusing more on people in their 30s and older, in order to leverage their pre-existing success and influence. Another sign twi's decline is continuing the slow crawl into night- along with all the offshoots. They're still unable to draw significant numbers of new people at ANY age- while other current cults are drawing in successful adults. Really, twi and splinters are trading people back and forth in a zero-sum game, and slowly losing people to them exiting, or death, or growing up and leaving when they are able. Their COLLECTIVE relevancy isn't even a blip on the radar. In 20-40 years, they may not merit footnotes in someone's book. There will be announcements of some deaths of "leaders" who refused to hand over the reins while alive, and then some silence, then an announcement of some land for sale or auction. That will be the end of twi- not with a bang, but with a whimper- and a quiet whimper at that. Some splinters have already folded, a few will need a few more years until old age takes their "leaders." The one with the young people? If the young vpw namesake gets a clue, the thing will be done soon after. If not, it will boast membership in the 2-3 digits until something happens like he dies or they all die and he decides he should do something else.

That's it, complete with correct spelling. Thou mayest brag.

You've got it. The band was "the Spinners" ("the Detroit Spinners" for UK releases.)

Here's another triple. A serial killer preys on a village, using an M.O. of deadly sins. To stop him, this village sets out to hire help- and get a small force of cowboys and a small force of Japanese ronin in response. Bragging rights if you spell the movie's title perfectly with the 3rd link included.

I'm sure there's something cagey about his entire education. We know he plagiarized whenever he could- so it's ridiculous to think he STARTED that AFTER his education. He ALWAYS cut corners out of laziness and did the least amount of work to get by and get credit. So, I'm confident he was much the same man and did exactly that at Princeton Theological, Lakeland, Pike's Peak, and anywhere else. He certainly did that with Moody... He claimed he took ALL their correspondence courses, and Moody has no record of him taking ANY of their courses. So, if he ever took ANY course of Moody, he never completed it and no record was ever logged as a result. So, he got the "credit" for Moody ("Respect me-I went to Moody") without actually doing the work.

"Hand me down my walkin' cane, hand me down my hat. Hurry now and don't be late 'cause we ain't got time to chat. You and me, we're goin' out to catch the latest sounds. Guaranteed to blow your mind so high, you won't come down, no."

"What Dreams May Come"?

Rocky Burt Young Back to School

That's backwards, actually. While Princeton Theological Seminary is a respected institution (despite vpw attending), in non-theological circles, it's unknown and Princeton University is a household name. (Despite both being in Princeton, NJ.) It was common for lcm certainly to say vpw got a Masters from "Princeton" and leave everyone thinking vpw went to Princeton University and got a Masters Degree from there. I suppose vpw taught him that one but I never personally heard vpw say it that way. Then again, we were all told that vpw "played basketball all through college and was involved with the Sheboygan Redskins." He was never on a TEAM in college, and never PLAYED for the Sheboygan Redskins. We were all meant to think that's what he meant- but he phrased the truth deceptively so as to get us to draw the wrong conclusion because we didn't think vpw would intentionally deceive us. (He was very successful that way.)

His doctorate may have come out of a cracker-jack box, but he did attend Princeton Theological Seminary for his Masters. He coasted for a doctorate after that. AFAIK, he went to a legitimate school for his Masters but chose the softest option available.

wierwille was a TRAINED storyteller. When he went to school, he specialized in HOMILETICS, which, of all the areas of studies in a Divinity school, is uniquely specialized for MAKING UP STORIES. (Studying Bible languages, for example, would have been WORK. Small wonder that wasn't his major.)

Your memory is correct.

twi- and its offshoots- are a lot like a bad, mid-life crisis. A man thinks of his glory days as college and a few years after college. He was popular, a jock, in shape, and handsome. So, now, he keeps trying to re-capture a handful of years from his early 20s into his 50s, 60s, 70s.... A woman remembers that she was one of the cool kids when she was a cheerleader. So, she tries to re-capture those years from her early 20s into her 50s, 60s, 70s.... There's an episode of "Friends" where Rachel feels like she's failing and can't get the guy- in her late 20s. So she runs and puts on her old cheerleader costume, because it's never failed her. By the end of the episode, even she admits it's a pitiful attempt at trying to recapture old glories and an inability to face the present. When I've watched the episode, I've been reminded of twi. Of course, it applies to the splinter groups as well. Decades later, people want to imitate what hijacked the hippies. People in the 21st century want a farm and recruits to do manual labor and exist in programs entirely at the sufferance of the managers. In twi AND the splinters, that's almost impossible- really beating the bushes means all of them get a handful of people TOTAL. twi's stopped publishing numbers for their programs since before the Corps graduated a grand total of FIVE PEOPLE one year and the statistics skipped that number and reported them in PERCENTAGES. "20% of the grads will do this, 20% will do this other thing." That means 1 person does 1 thing and another person does another thing. But, that's all they know, and growing up and getting jobs and starting families, doing something different and healthy, is antithetical to the twi/ ex-twi vision, so it's farms and manual labor and naive kids if you find any.

This show had 3 incarnations, all with the same title (more or less). A) It started airing March 1, 1949 and finished a second season despite the host/founder's death (and despite his name being on the show!) B) It aired 1982 to 1986, with Jack Palance hosting. It ran in syndication in the 1990s on cable as well. C) It aired 2000-2003 (plus syndication) with Dean Cain hosting. Partial descriptions of the shows: B) "...this show looked at the people, places and events that made up the stranger side of human history. Subjects have included Nikola Tesla, The Bermuda Triangle, The Elephant Man, and Mad King Ludwig. " C) "...usually simply introduces the topics shown in the various, rather short film sequences shot all over the world, in addition to which some weird facts (e.g. absurd laws) can be quickly reviewed. Each report -usually independent, follow-up is rare- is on something very unusual, surprising and/or spectacular, such as inventions, stunts and records, freak creatures and - accidents..." Seriously, someone did an animated series for kids in 1998? "They're seeking mystery, collecting strange and disturbing facts through the Web and the international press as well as in uncle Bob's huge library and collection. Living in the beautiful island of Bion, they're always ready to take off for faraway destinations to investigate a case, solve a mystery or just meet strange people with strange traditions...."

This show had 3 incarnations, all with the same title (more or less). A) It started airing March 1, 1949 and finished a second season despite the host/founder's death (and despite his name being on the show!) B) It aired 1982 to 1986, with Jack Palance hosting. It ran in syndication in the 1990s on cable as well. C) It aired 2000-2003 (plus syndication) with Dean Cain hosting.

I think the artist is "Led Zepellin." A lot of the time, I can recognize songs of theirs but can't give their titles because I have no idea about the titles. In this case, it should make naming the song easier...if I'm correct.

Ok, that's "SEINFELD." Jerry hasn't had another series. Jason Alexander and Michael Richards each had something for about a minute. Julia Louise-Dreyfus has "the New Adventures of Old Christine" and I don't know the other. BTW, George later admitted he lied when he won the contest.

That's it. " I've successfully privatized world peace. What more do you want? For now!" My favorite line during the Senate hearing. (There's a great line when he's leaving the hearing, of course.) "If you try to escape, or play any sort of games with me, I will taze you and watch "Supernanny" while you drool into the carpet." Coulson warning Stark about staying in and working.

"U shan ta ma la ka si to la shon ta." That "sentence" showed up all the time, not just in pfal. And it's been trotted out by partisans as proof vpw was a "real Christian" and not just a fraud from the beginning. vpw passed the standard that he made up for being a real Christian..big surprise...but he didn't do very well at it even so... It's like his "tongue" was exactly one sentence long. The practice sessions were all flesh-and-blood practice for something that was supposedly completely spiritual. It's obvious in hindsight, but it fooled us all despite being inconsistent. When it came to revelation and power, vpw could cite examples from Scripture or cite examples from other people (or claim those stories were his own a la Gilderoy Lockhart), but never actually DEMONSTRATE them. That's why he didn't understand deeper levels and his explanations made no sense. "Phenomena" was his catch-all term for whatever wasn't guaranteed- and nobody noticed that's exactly what it was. (I didn't even think that was wrong, to have a catch-all term, but you'd think it was quoted straight out of the Bible.) He claimed that "phenomena" for non-Christians REQUIRED spirit upon someone and couldn't be physical (that was passed on by others, too). So, the "writing on the wall" wasn't actual writing on an actual wall. The far simpler explanation was that the writing, devoid of context, was MISUNDERSTOOD because the lettering looked like 1 language when it was another. However, anything vpw didn't understand was "supernatural". Charlatan voodoo doctors using sleight-of-hand were claimed to be "supernatural" as well since vpw lacked the wit to understand what they were doing.

I'm not- Saul actually DID stuff before he got jealous of David. That's why the people thought Saul slew "thousands" and David "ten thousands". David was more effective, but Saul wasn't useless. vpw, however, had a tiny local group for more than 2 decades before he heard of these young men. I don't even think it was JEALOUSY as much as him seeing RESOURCES rather than PEOPLE. Leonard wasn't an excellent teacher to him- Leonard was a source for a class he could rip off. Stiles wasn't an excellent teacher of holy spirit to him- Stiles was a source of a book he could rip off. So, the House of Acts wasn't effective Christians to him- they were a source of outreach that he could rip off. So, since he couldn't plagiarize the people, he tricked them and diverted them into his group so they would stop working for God for free and start working for him and generate income. (Class tuitions, tithes and "abundant sharing" were all sources of income.)

vpw and lcm thought it was only fair for people sign up as SLAVES. Remember that lcm did in public what vpw did in private. lcm, many times, pushed the idea of "bond-slaves" ("doulos") as a HIGHER CALLING. So, we weren't servants of God, according to twi, we were sons...... ...but when they wanted commitments to them, they wanted SLAVES. So, they tried to make you agree to be their SLAVE- AND PAY ALL YOUR EXPENSES. Even the most downtrodden slave's expenses were supposed to be covered by the owner or master. vpw was fond of all commitments going only ONE WAY- to him and NEVER from him. Yes, people paid twi to work for twi, and paid twi for such "gems" as "how to pack a suitcase" and "how to floss." To waste 4 years of your time and get 4 years of payments for it, twi had to use a lot of filler to make up for the lack of substance.

It is not Iron Man 3.