WordWolf

I've had a few forgettable threads fade with no replies, so you've forgotten about them. However, I'm really proud of a few threads, especially the "Wonderland" pair, "The Way: Living in Wonderland" and "vp and me in Wonderland" (this one.)

Seriously, you've never seen the original? I got used to them showing WW&tCF every holiday season, with one channel showing it around Thanksgiving and another around Christmas. There was a great, big hullabaloo about the remake. It was remade on a bigger budget, with lots of special effects. Even throwing in Christopher Lee, in my opinion, didn't make it even with the other movie. The original's songs actually meant something for the story, and, like all musicals, weren't exactly part of the story. Finally, how the kid "wins" in the original really MEANT something. In the remake, he "won" by just not making a stupid mistake like the others. The newer Wonka doesn't like kids, doesn't like parents, and doesn't like old people. He's plain antisocial. He seems put out to show the factory. In the original, he's odd-but there seems to be a calculation whenever he's peculiar- he's having fun and knows how to do it without being a legitimately bad person. He likes kids. And we know, in the end, that all the rotten kids were back to their old selves eventually-but hopefully a little wiser. There's a claim that the remake was closer to the book. First of all, bushwah. The book doesn't have a creepy, antisocial Wonka. The book doesn't show his childhood- with the self-indulgent nod to Tim Burton's own childhood with the mouth-guard. Wonka's offer at the end was immediately accepted in the book- like the original. Second of all, everything that made the original memorable was added for the movie. The entire public mad buying spree of all the Wonka bars, the Slugworth subplot (and Wilson) which makes total sense the SECOND time you watch it, the final test, and closing lines are classic if not revolutionary. So, Dahl complained about the original, but the differences made for a better movie. If they had stuck closely to the book, it would have been a forgettable movie and not something considered a family classic. Any adaptation makes changes. Are they faithful, and do they add to the result? In the case of the original movie, I would say "yes." In the case of the remake, I would say "rarely."

Here's how they appeared in this thing. "Don't you want to know our names?" "Can't imagine how it would matter." The thoroughly unlikeable Willy Wonka, upon meeting the 5 children. "What do you use Hair Cream for?" "To lock in moisture." His factory also made "hair cream", as did the original's. "Who wants a beard?" "Well, beatniks for one, folk singers, and motorbike riders. Y'know. All those hip, jazzy, super cool, neat, keen, and groovy cats. It's in the fridge, daddy-o! Are you hip to the jive? Can you dig what I'm layin' down? I knew that you could. Slide me some skin, soul brother!" Mike Teevee asked why he was working on some sort of instant beard thing. I agree-its relevance to candy approaches zero on an absolute scale. "Why is everything here completely pointless?" Mike Teevee on the ridiculousness of this hammerspace-huge factory/planet, where much of it had little to do with standard candy-making but worked for Wonka. "I do say, that all seemed rather rehearsed." One of the adults, commenting on the musical number with Augustus Gloop. In this version, the musical numbers are part of the scene. "Your mum and I thought, maybe you want to open your birthday present, tonight." "Here you are." "Maybe I should wait till morning." "Like hell." "Pop." "All together we're 381 years old. We don't wait." The Bucket family, and Charlie about whether to open his chocolate bar. "Oh, thank heavens... he's completely unharmed." As said in both movies when Mike Teevee reappeared after being broadcast across a room. "Good morning, starshine. The earth...says hello." Wonka, during his "greeting" of the kids. "There's plenty of money out there. They print more every day." The other Grandpa on why Charlie couldn't sell his Golden Ticket for money, even a lot. " Do you have an appointment?" "No, but he's overdue." Towards the end, with Christopher Lee and Depp, between Lee and Freddie Sizemore. "She's even worse than the fat boy!" One grandparent, after seeing Veruca "find" the second ticket after Augustus. "So, can you send other things? Say, like, breakfast cereal?" "Do you have any idea what breakfast cereal's made of? It's those little curly wooden shavings you find in pencil sharpeners." Mike and Wonka, in an exchange I remember from the book as well. "Ha ha ha, wasn't that just magnificent? I was worried it was getting a little dodgy in the middle part, but then that finale... Wow!" Wonka, on his opening presentation that broke down. "Augustus, My child. That is not the right thing to do!" Mrs Gloop, when Augustus tries to drink the chocolate river. " "Up and out"? What kind of a room is that?" "Hold on." The glass elevator. "Eyes on the prize, Violet, eyes on the prize." Violet's mom, when they enter the factory. "Oh well, nothing goes better with cabbage than cabbage." In both versions, the family lives off a lot of cabbage soup. (As adults, we wondered how 4 pensions together couldn't at least cover the rent on a hovel and some minimal food, allowing one parent's salary to pay for food and expenses.)

Ghostbusters William Atherton Die Hard

Well, *I* am certainly more familiar with the original than the remake, and would be able to "triangulate", as it were, from what I mentioned. So, you are correct. BTW, at least one quote appeared in the original movie.

The Doctrinal forum is the forum where that's not off-topic. This is the forum for discussing doctrine-from whatever perspective one wishes. Agreement of others isn't a guarantee, and even the thread making a lot of sense is no guarantee so long as it's on doctrine. So, whether I agree with it or not, this is the place that comment belongs, if it's being posted.

You have the names of 2 of the characters, and an uncommon food to mention in dialogue. From those alone, you should be able to get it in 2 guesses- or 1 guess if you know the other version well and can eliminate it by not recognizing almost all these quotes. I even included one that appeared in the book.

For those who want to know about vpw when the cameras were off, lcm himself said all this about him...... and he meant it all in a respectful, worship-the-man way.

"Don't you want to know our names?" "Can't imagine how it would matter." "What do you use Hair Cream for?" "To lock in moisture." "Who wants a beard?" "Well, beatniks for one, folk singers, and motorbike riders. Y'know. All those hip, jazzy, super cool, neat, keen, and groovy cats. It's in the fridge, daddy-o! Are you hip to the jive? Can you dig what I'm layin' down? I knew that you could. Slide me some skin, soul brother!" "Why is everything here completely pointless?" "I do say, that all seemed rather rehearsed." "Your mum and I thought, maybe you want to open your birthday present, tonight." "Here you are." "Maybe I should wait till morning." "Like hell." "Pop." "All together we're 381 years old. We don't wait." "Oh, thank heavens... he's completely unharmed." "Good morning, starshine. The earth...says hello." "There's plenty of money out there. They print more every day." " Do you have an appointment?" "No, but he's overdue." "She's even worse than the fat boy!" "So, can you send other things? Say, like, breakfast cereal?" "Do you have any idea what breakfast cereal's made of? It's those little curly wooden shavings you find in pencil sharpeners." "Ha ha ha, wasn't that just magnificent? I was worried it was getting a little dodgy in the middle part, but then that finale... Wow!" "Augustus, My child. That is not the right thing to do!" " "Up and out"? What kind of a room is that?" "Hold on." "Eyes on the prize, Violet, eyes on the prize." "Oh well, nothing goes better with cabbage than cabbage."

Carmen Sandiego Sister Peter Marie Reimondo Violet Newstead

The Experts Brian Doyle Murray Wayne's World

Read his post again. He's "sure" because he believes all of them were "INVENTED" off the same source material. He doesn't believe Jesus Christ said that (nor that "Jesus" was "Christ", for that matter.) That's why he's so sure.

Who was the 'kid'? Oh, yeah... Emilio Estevez Loaded Weapon 1 Jon Lovitz

If you had included "plastic" with the sentence, I might have recognized the quote. This thread is SUPPOSED to go for the obvious.

"Don't you want to know our names?" "Can't imagine how it would matter." "What do you use Hair Cream for?" "To lock in moisture." "Who wants a beard?" "Well, beatniks for one, folk singers, and motorbike riders. Y'know. All those hip, jazzy, super cool, neat, keen, and groovy cats. It's in the fridge, daddy-o! Are you hip to the jive? Can you dig what I'm layin' down? I knew that you could. Slide me some skin, soul brother!" "Why is everything here completely pointless?" "I do say, that all seemed rather rehearsed." "Your mum and I thought, maybe you want to open your birthday present, tonight." "Here you are." "Maybe I should wait till morning." "Like hell." "Pop." "All together we're 381 years old. We don't wait." "Oh, thank heavens... he's completely unharmed." "Good morning, starshine. The earth...says hello." "There's plenty of money out there. They print more every day." " Do you have an appointment?" "No, but he's overdue." "She's even worse than the fat boy!" "Do you have any idea what breakfast cereal's made of? It's those little curly wooden shavings you find in pencil sharpeners." "Ha ha ha, wasn't that just magnificent? I was worried it was getting a little dodgy in the middle part, but then that finale... Wow!"

3) Anthony Hopkins.

2) Frank Langella?

The artist was comedian 'Denis Leary." The title was "@$$h01e." You can check it out on YouTube. Denis told the following story about this song... Denis said he picked up his son from school and brought him to the recording studio while he was recording the audio track. He didn't really think about how that recording session had them singing out the spelling of the song's name. As always, they recorded that a lot. The next day, Denis got a phone-call from his son's school. They said he needed to come in and discuss some inappropriate lyrics his son was singing. He agreed to come in, and wondered what his son was singing. He wondered what he could have sung, and compared it to his own experiences in school. "Jingle bells, Batman smells..." and figured that, to them, "Batman smells" could count as inappropriate. So, at the meeting, the school representative didn't want to tell him directly what his son sang. She wrote it down on a slip of paper, then slid it across a desk to him. "*flips paper over* @$$h01e???????" "Do you know this song, Mr Leary?" "Know it? I wrote it, sweetheart!" ==================== So, for now, FREE POST.

I'm thinking I csn do it in 3 guesses. 1) Lane Smith?

"Don't you want to know our names?" "Can't imagine how it would matter." "What do you use Hair Cream for?" "To lock in moisture." "Who wants a beard?" "Well, beatniks for one, folk singers, and motorbike riders. Y'know. All those hip, jazzy, super cool, neat, keen, and groovy cats. It's in the fridge, daddy-o! Are you hip to the jive? Can you dig what I'm layin' down? I knew that you could. Slide me some skin, soul brother!" "Why is everything here completely pointless?" "I do say, that all seemed rather rehearsed." "Your mum and I thought, maybe you want to open your birthday present, tonight." "Here you are." "Maybe I should wait till morning." "Like hell." "Pop." "All together we're 381 years old. We don't wait." "Oh, thank heavens... he's completely unharmed."

DWBH, AOS was not "a deranged DVD of Bible fantasies of the dancing president of twit." It was not available in DVD. It was a deranged VIDEOCASSETTE of Bible fantasies of the dancing president of twit." (It was available in Beta, then later in VHS.)

This was a song that wasn't released by any of the usual artists..... "Folks, I'd like to sing a song about the American Dream. About me, about you, the way our American hearts beat. Down in the bottom of our chests, about the special feeling We get in the cockles of our hearts, maybe below the cockles. Maybe in the sub-cockle area, maybe in the liver. Maybe in the kidneys, maybe even in the colon, we don't know. I'm just a regular Joe with a regular job. I'm your average white suburbanite slob. I like football and porno and books about war. I've got an average house with a nice hardwood floor. My wife and my job, my kids and my car My feet on my table and a Cuban cigar. But sometimes that just ain't enough To keep a man like me interested (Oh no) No way (Uh-uh) No, I've gotta go out and have fun At someone else's expense." "I drive really slow in the ultra-fast lane While people behind me are going insane." "I use public toilets and p1$$ on the seat I walk around in the summertime saying "How about this heat?"" "Sometimes I park in handicapped spaces While handicapped people make handicapped faces." "You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac, El Dorado convertible. Hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior, And big brown baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah. And I'm gonna drive around in that baby at 115 mph.. Getting one mile per gallon, sucking down Quarter-Pounder Cheeseburgers from McDonald's in the old fashioned Non-biodegradable Styrofoam containers. And when I'm done sucking down those grease-ball burgers, I'm gonna wipe my mouth with the American flag. And then I'm gonna toss the Styrofoam container right out the side. And there ain't a godd***ed thing anybody can do about it You know why? Because we got the bombs, that's why. Two words, nuclear .... weapons, okay? Russia, Germany, Romania They can have all the democracy they want. They can have a big democracy cake walk Right through the middle of Tienanmen Square. And it won't make a lick of difference Because we've got the bombs, okay? John Wayne's not dead. He's frozen and as soon as we find the cure for cancer, We're gonna thaw out The Duke and he's gonna be pretty p1$$ed off. You know why? Have you ever taken a cold shower? Well multiple that by 15 million times. That's how ....ed off the Duke's gonna be. I'm gonna get the Duke and John Cassavetes (Hey) And Lee Marvin (Hey) And Sam Peckinpah (Hey) And a case of whiskey and drive down to Texas..." I'm beginning to suspect you guys may not have heard this song.....

"Don't you want to know our names?" "Can't imagine how it would matter." "What do you use Hair Cream for?" "To lock in moisture." "Who wants a beard?" "Well, beatniks for one, folk singers, and motorbike riders. Y'know. All those hip, jazzy, super cool, neat, keen, and groovy cats. It's in the fridge, daddy-o! Are you hip to the jive? Can you dig what I'm layin' down? I knew that you could. Slide me some skin, soul brother!" "Why is everything here completely pointless?"

Madonna Dick Tracy Dustin Hoffman

Then again, they may regret losing contact with you if and when THEY leave. So, you might leave the door open for them in case that happens. Or not, depending. It's not your job, after all. Just another decision to make. And yes, twi will be juvenile, petty, loud, threatening, passive-aggressive, and so on, once they know you're on the way out. Either they want you back to exploit you some more, or they want you beaten and broken as an example to the others as to what happens to those who leave.