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"The Way: Living in Love." pg-150 "There were two men in Van Wert," he begins slowly. Now, they got together every morning at 5am and believed together for an hour. Every morning. I don't know what they called it. But they would set their minds on an agreed project. They never spoke; just got together every morning and both concentrated on whatever it was, until it came to pass." pg-151 "Well, they just got together and put their minds on it every single morning for a couple of weeks, and lo and behold, one day suddenly some guy who wanted to sell his distillery just called them up, asked if they wanted to buy it. They'd never heard of the guy with the distillery before. He found them. Yep, they made millions, gambled, won. One man set up a foundation for children from broken homes, also built the YMCA, YWCA and a hospital. It was something." "I used to watch how they operated. I was a minister there in Van Wert. I had my church, my congregation. But I studied them. That was before God showed me the law of believing in all its accuracy. You see, here were the two meanest guys you could ever want to meet. Nobody liked them because they were so successful and no one else could hold a candle to them. " pg-152. "I used to look at their successes-one after another-and then I'd look at those defeated Christians all around me. And I was just amazed. I just couldn't understand it, until I understood from the Word of God the law of believing, the greatest law in the world today. Then I could see just what was happening. It says in Mark that whosoever-now what does whosoever mean? Whosoever means whosoever, not just Christians, not just Catholics, not just Way believers, but 'Whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.' There it is, spelled out, the greatest law there is. " For those not completely clear on this, these men never existed, except in vpw's story. They had NO NAMES. They supposedly did all these things that leave paper trails, yet vpw never ONCE gives them as a SPECIFIC example of anything. "This hospital here at this location owes its existence to Mr Majikthise and Mr Vroomfondel, and everyone who owes their lives to treatment there owes these 2 men. All because Believing is a Law." Never said that, not once. But he made them up this FABLE to illustrate "in reality" what he CLAIMED could be done IN REALITY. However, it only happened in this FABLE, which he needed to MAKE UP as an example. Hands up, any of you who saw vpw use the supposed "LAW" of Believing to win a fortune at the racetrack (we know he went there), a casino, a statewide lottery, etc. Exactly. We have a list of zero twi'ers that used that supposed "LAW" to make fast cash despite it being "available" to "believe for it" all the time.

Well, they DEMAND it, so it's technically not "asked". twi has mandatory tithing of at least 10% (which has been as high as 20% and is probably 15% right now. twi invented the term "abundant share" for money given above their MANDATORY TITHE. That's unique-most groups don't demand donations at that point nor expect them. twi invented the term "plurality giving." That's a unique CONCEPT among supposed "Christian" groups. Take all the money you made. Subtract all money for bills and expenses, food and other things you HAVE to buy or pay for. Anything left, no matter how big or small, ALL OF IT GOES TO TWI. No savings, no investments, no nothing. twi gets it all. So, anyone who thinks twi doesn't pry money out of the hands of their drones is seriously deluded. If your payments are not up-to-date, you're considered second class at best and are not allowed full participation at events where you must cover all expenses. twi is the most money-grubbing group with which I'm personally familiar.

So, they're claiming ZERO sales of books, tapes, etc for that fiscal year? I'm sure the IRS would disagree if there was an audit.

Did that Sgt Rock movie ever come out? I know nothing's ever easy in Easy....

That first line definitely rang a bell. The last 2 lines allowed me to keep singing where they left off. Steely Dan, "Do It Again", I think, is the song title. "You go back, Jack, do it again. Wheels turnin' round and round." Donald Fagin expresses surprise that there's still fans out there, and that there's YOUNGER fans out there. Some music means something and later generations like it. Sometimes that surprises the musicians. (I saw a few teenagers when Ian Anderson toured doing a performance of "Thick as a Brick" and "Thick as a Brick 2" in concert.)

On the off-chance it's not, I'll throw in "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" as a guess.

Yes, it is.

Obscure supernatural shows. Name any to take the round. A) This short-lived show was about a small, close-knit community of werewolves in the Pacific Northwest. Lou Diamond Phillips, Mia Kirschner and Graham Greene turned in good performances, but it was still yanked off CBS far too soon. Short airings on UPN and SyFy didn't do much better in the ratings. Too bad-it was well-written and a better show than much of the new dreck out there. B) This short-lived show was about a vampire detective, and should not be confused with "Forever Knight" despite that. He works out of Los Angeles, and should not be confused with "Angel" despite that. Alex O'Loughlin and Shannyn Sossamon couldn't save this show. C) This short-lived show was about a private detective who operates out of Chicago. He's not a vampire-he's a wizard. It's based on a series of novels that do better than the show. (They got away with the line "You're a wizard, Harry" because he was one. Even the comic book seems more successful than the show. Paul Blackthorne was well-cast as the title character, but neither he nor Valerie Cruz nor Terrence Mann could make the show get ratings. D) This short-lived show had clans of vampires operating secretly in San Francisco. It was based on already-established vampire fiction- novels, computer games and role-playing games. It was described once as "a cross between 'the Godfather' and 'Melrose Place.' C, Thomas Howell and Kelly Rutherford were actors of note.

You are correct that it's not this song. "See the stone set in your eyes. See the thorn twist in your side. I'll wait for you. Sleight of hand and twist of fate. On a bed of nails she makes me wait" "My hands are tied. My body bruised, she's got me with Nothing to win and Nothing left to lose."

The first clue stumps me. The only musical that reminds me of the others is "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory."

Wild swing #1- Harrison Ford. Wild swing #2- Gary Oldman.

"Chitty Chitty Bang Bang You're Dead"????

No, that would have been based directly on a comic book, not a series of books.

Obscure supernatural shows. Name any to take the round. A) This short-lived show was about a small, close-knit community in the Pacific Northwest. Lou Diamond Phillips and Graham Greene turned in good performances, but it was still yanked off CBS far too soon. Short airings on UPN and SyFy didn't do much better in the ratings. Too bad-it was well-written and a better show than much of the new dreck out there. B) This short-lived show was about a vampire detective, and should not be confused with "Forever Knight" despite that. He works out of Los Angeles, and should not be confused with "Angel" despite that. Alex O'Loughlin and Shannyn Sossamon couldn't save this show. C) This short-lived show was about a private detective who operates out of Chicago. He's not a vampire-he's a wizard. It's based on a series of books that do better than the show. Even the comic book seems more successful than the show. D) This short-lived show had clans of vampires operating secretly in San Francisco. It was based on already-established vampire fiction.

"My hands are tied. My body bruised, she's got me with Nothing to win and Nothing left to lose."

Mary (Elizabeth) Winstead Scott Pilgrim vs the World Chris Evans

7. Wait until “green light” revelation. Philippians 4:6 a. Wait. Is 40:31, Acts 16:16-18, John 11:6 To wait on the Lord means to hold it in abeyance because you don’t have the open door to move yet. You learn when to recognize the “go” signal. b. Doodle. John 8:6-8. c. Pace the floor. II Kings 4:32-37 d. Pray or sing. Acts 4:23-31, Acts 16:25-26 ===================================================== Philippians 4(KJV) 4 Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, Rejoice. 5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. 6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. =================================================== [Philippians 4:6 is about avoiding anxiety and praying instead, and not being anxious as a result. There's nothing about "revelation" or any sort of signal.] ================================================= Isaiah 40 (KJV) 29 He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength. 30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall: 31 But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. =========================================== [i notice that some versions render that "wait" as "trust", some as "hope", and one as "expect." Young's says that's "wait, expect, look for, hope. (Qavah.) The same word's rendered "gather" or "gather together" and is most commonly translated either "wait" or "look to/for" in the KJV. The vpw meaning of "stand around waiting" is really unlikely here.] ======================================== Acts 16 (KJV) 15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us. 16 And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. 18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. ================================= [so, vpw read entirely into this that Paul and Silas "waited" for MANY DAYS, and Paul got revelation to act, but it says he acted because he was "grieved." Whatever that means, it's his volition, not revelation.] ======================= John 11 (KJV) 3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick. 4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. 5 Now Jesus loved Martha, and her sister, and Lazarus. 6 When he had heard therefore that he was sick, he abode two days still in the same place where he was. 7 Then after that saith he to his disciples, Let us go into Judaea again. 8 His disciples say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to stone thee; and goest thou thither again? 9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. 10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him. 11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. ============================== [There's no "key" involved here other than "ask God for revelation before taking action." Which is seriously Revelation 100. We know that Jesus went to deliver Lazarus. There were reasons to pause and not rush there, and discussion of that would involve LOTS of SPECULATION. vpw, naturally, overcomplicated even the most simple accounts of revelation-possibly because he didn't understand them and may not even had any experience with them. Based on his tendency to regurgitate the work of others, then rephrase them to change the phraseology only, it seems that he often didn't understand what he was copying. Certainly his definitions of revelation were just Leonard's definition with a lot of long words tacked on- despite the basic definition having a problem so obvious that vpw worshipper cg couldn't leave it alone and had to fix it before teaching it.] [i'll get to the rest later.]

[i was careless with my punctuation. The previous post should have looked more like this...] ===================================== 6. Action precedes results. Believing without works is not believing. James 1:22; 2:26 Mark 3:1-5, Ex 14:21 ===================================== James 1 (KJV) 21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. ===================== [Pretty straightforward- do what is right, refrain from what is wrong. You'll be blessed in what you do. Nothing about "action precedes results."] =============================== 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ========================== [Here we see works have their place-taking action is necessary. For others to benefit, we must take action. Faith demonstrated in action is completed. You act on what you believe. A faith with no action behind it is barren. All of that IS common-sense. But there's no "action precedes results."] ========================== Mark 3 (KJV) 1 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand. 2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him. 3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth. 4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace. 5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other. ====================================== [Your actions reflect what you believe. The survivalist stockpile guns and supplies against the end of the world. Those who expect deliverance act accordingly. Hardly any esoteric "key." And still nothing about how "action precedes results." There's no such "rule".] ============================== Exodus 14 (KJV) 19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: 20 And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night. 21 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. 22 And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left. ========================= [believe God and do what He says, and you'll see the results. We don't see any sort of rule about "Action precedes results." If you believe a blizzard is outside, you'll take action if you go outside-you'll dress up in layers over your entire body. You'll see the results when you step outside. If the weather is like Summer, you'll bake. If it's a blizzard, you'll be well-protected. No "key" involved there.]

6. Action precedes results. Believing without works is not believing. James 1:22; 2:26 Mark 3:1-5, Ex 14:21 ===================================== James 1 (KJV) 21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. 22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. ===================== Pretty straightforward- do what is right, refrain from what is wrong. You'll be blessed in what you do. Nothing about "action precedes results." =============================== 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ========================== Here we see works have their place-taking action is necessary. For others to benefit, we must take action. Faith demonstrated in action is completed. You act on what you believe. A faith with no action behind it is barren. All of that IS common-sense. But there's no "action precedes results." ========================== Mark 3 (KJV) 1 And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand. 2 And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him. 3 And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth. 4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace. 5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other. ====================================== Your actions reflect what you believe. The survivalist stockpile guns and supplies against the end of the world. Those who expect deliverance act accordingly. Hardly any esoteric "key." And still nothing about how "action precedes results." There's no such "rule". ============================== Exodus 14 (KJV) 19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: 20 And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night. 21 And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided. 22 And the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea upon the dry ground: and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left. ========================= Believe God and do what He says, and you'll see the results. We don't see any sort of rule about "Action precedes results." If you believe a blizzard is outside, you'll take action if you go outside-you'll dress up in layers over your entire body. You'll see the results when you step outside. If the weather is like Summer, you'll bake. If it's a blizzard, you'll be well-protected. No "key" involved there.

5. Travel light. II Timothy 2:4, Acts 2:44-45, Acts 4:34-35, Prov 30:7-9, I Tim 6:10 I Peter 5:7, Phil 4:6 =================================== 2 Timothy, King James Version (KJV) 1 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. 2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also. 3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. 4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. 5 And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully. ============================================== That just said to focus on the things of God. ============================================== Acts 2, KJV 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. ====================================== So, if this was an instruction to living simply and giving to those with need, we would obviously expect vpw set the example by living simply and letting the money for luxuries or vices go to those who had needs. We never saw that, of course. Talk is cheap-and so was vpw when spending on others. ======================================= Acts 4, KJV 32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need. 36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus, 37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet. ======================================= Again, if this was supposed to mean "share the loot", then vpw's failure to be the example is rather telling as to what he believed about what he himself was teaching. ======================================= Proverbs 30, KJV 5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. 7 Two things have I required of thee; deny me them not before I die: 8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me: 9 Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain. ======================================== This is asked of God by the speaker, but this is not listed as any sort of requirement or key, or even a recommended action. ======================================= I Timothy 6, KJV 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. ========================= In other words, greed is bad-follow God instead of being covetous and greedy. ============================ I Peter 5:7 KJV 7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. =============================== I give up- what possible connection is there between that verse and the supposed "key"? ============================ Philippians 4 5 Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. 6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. 7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. 8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. ========================== Control your emotions, and focus on God. Lift your needs and your voice in prayer to Him. Nothing about "traveling light." Then again, that's vague for a reason. And, that's it for verses purported to be connected to "traveling light." None actually relate to it, which is amazing since the concept is a vague one. =============================

BZZT! Sandy Bullock was not a movie Matthew Mc Conaghey was in. We went from "A Time to Kill" to Matthew, so next is another movie he was in. I'm expecting there WAS another movie, since I could have named several actors from ATTK who were in other movies but I can't think of one Matthew was in (including Sandra B.)

For variety, I'll take the 2nd one, "Austin Powers-the Spy That Shagged Me".

Well, you had me snowed. The lyrics sounded like some thoughtful U-2 stuff. This is Billy Idol's "REBEL YELL."

3. Speaking in tongues daily is prerequisite to revelation. II Corinthians 4:16, Eph 6:18 As if I have to mention it, the verses supposedly supporting this say nothing about speaking in tongues "daily" being "prerequisite" to revelation. (Which pretty much would have disallowed revelation before Pentecost.) II Corinthians 4 13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; 14 Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you. 15 For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God. 16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day. 17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. Ephesians 6 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; 19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak. According to vpw, the "inward man being renewed" is a reference to speaking in tongues, and "praying with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit" is both a reference to speaking in tongues, yet NEITHER says ANYTHING about REVELATION, or a PREREQUISITE. Exactly how far a leap are people willing to make? "It's true because vpw said it's true." "He had no basis for saying it." "Yes he did, he always taught the Bible correctly." "All right, then where does it say that in the Bible?" "Right here." "We just read that and it's completely unrelated!" "You're full of the spirit of bitterness!" Sure seems that way. It will probably get obscene by the time we're finished going over all the verses for all 16 supposed "keys."

Nothing's springing to mind, but I'm certain I've heard this one.