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15) Convinced someone to directly plagiarize the Dale Carnegie training course, so that they could run it for the Corps regularly without paying the legally-required royalties to the company. 16) Always ran the courses to make a direct profit. 17) Always charged retail for everything despite low overhead and doing everything in-house.

I hope you let her know she's welcome to socialize with those of us still socializing here regularly.

It's not "A Sound of Thunder." So, how about "Minority Report"?

That's nothing at all like he said. Read it again, slower. If you still miss it somehow, I explained it further in post 15 of this thread.

Puerto Rico may very well become a state. Discussions have been ongoing longer than I've been alive. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth and is a US territory. Alaska and Hawaii had that status before becoming states. Its residents are US citizens and the currency is the US dollar. For more territories, look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States

New York State's Dept of Motor Vehicles uses a point system. http://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/suspensions-and-revocations http://dmv.ny.gov/nav/tickets-points-penalties http://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system That last link is a breakdown.

It's also a good example of vpw saying ONE thing while the cameras were rolling and ANOTHER thing that contradicted it when in private. In private, he said God was ok with orgies, and asked women he was not married to, to have sex with him in one form or another. In public, he spent whole minutes of the 7-session "Christian Family and Sex" class reading "flee fornication" and "avoid fornication" and so on. So, the gullible say "I heard him say 'avoid fornication', so it's impossible he was just deceiving me while telling other people to fornicate." (He even told lcm he'd need to get comfortable with having sex with women outside his marriage.)

Charles Manson's group had a handful of members. In the scale of humanity, both the numbers of members and their murder victims are "insignificant" (STATISTICALLY, considering that there's over 200 million people living in the US this instant.) That same group was a cult, dangerous, and it DID ruin lives. If you had a family member who was in it, or who was murdered by them, you would consider them a big deal and worth discussing. ====================== Every SINGLE bullet shot in a war is "insignificant" (statistically.) We don't discuss the story, say, of every bullet fired by or at a US soldier in "Operation Enduring Freedom", not even just the ones fired in Afghanistan. Statistically, each one is "insignificant." However, for the family and friends of a soldier whose life was cut short by a bullet would testify it was indeed a dangerous bullet. It might even have been said to ruin their lives. "Where is God? God is everywhere. Why? Because He likes you." (Father Guido Sarducci's Religion class, 5-Minute University.) People are often blessed in the most miserable, seemingly-hopeless circumstances, during horrible events. Doesn't mean the hurricane was of God, doesn't mean the maniac shooter was an instrument of His Divine Will. God still answers prayer during genocides. Doesn't mean to thank God for the genocide, nor to claim it wasn't a big deal. Oh, and I don't think there's a single poster here who doesn't think the Catholic Church's dark side doesn't need excising, either. (Personally, I'm "old school" and would sanction stoning for a few of the perpetrators.) Ah, the label matters because twi fulfills the requirements of the definition "cult." If someone claimed that it would be no different to "put you in the box marked 'male'" than to "put you in the box marked 'serial killer'", you would object. You are unarguably a male-the definition applies to you, and using that word as a descriptive tells something ACCURATE about you. You are unarguable NOT a serial killer- the definition does not apply to you, and using that word as a descriptive tells nothing ACCURATE about you. (Although it would say something about the person who claimed you were one.) twi has been demonstrated- beyond any REASONABLE doubt- NOT to be nor to have been "God's Ministry." twi has been demonstrated- beyond any REASONABLE doubt- to have been a cult. I know that ignorant fools slapped that label on twi for casual and stupid reasons in the past. However, unbeknownst to them, the label actually DID apply-for far better reasons than they imagined. Their stupidity didn't actually invalidate the label when the REAL evidence was uncovered.

Ah, the 3 steps here have to go: actor from the Expendables (other than Mickey Rourke) movie that other actor was in different actor from that same movie You did Step 1 three times instead of steps 1-3. Please pick 1 actor and perform the other steps, preferably leaving us with an actor we can work with. (The other "obvious" movie for me was Iron Man 2. Rourke played Vanko, the most obvious villain in the movie.)

Could be "the Butterfly Effect."

To me, there's one obvious movie. I'll go with the other. the Wrestler Mickey Rourke the Expendables (I skipped another one that was obvious for me.)

Big Fish Helena Bonham Carter Sweeney Todd: the Demon Barber of Fleet Street

Strictly speaking, the live show was "The Ghost Busters." Everything else, including their cartoon, was "Ghostbusters." Their cartoon seems now to be called "Ghostbusters Animated" by some. Now that Raf named 2, here's the others... A) This short-lived show was about a small, close-knit community of werewolves in the Pacific Northwest. Lou Diamond Phillips, Mia Kirschner and Graham Greene turned in good performances, but it was still yanked off CBS far too soon. Short airings on UPN and SyFy didn't do much better in the ratings. Too bad-it was well-written and a better show than much of the new dreck out there. WOLF LAKE. B) This short-lived show was about a vampire detective, and should not be confused with "Forever Knight" despite that. He works out of Los Angeles, and should not be confused with "Angel" despite that. Alex O'Loughlin and Shannyn Sossamon couldn't save this show. MOONLIGHT. C) This short-lived show was about a private detective who operates out of Chicago. He's not a vampire-he's a wizard. It's based on a series of novels that do better than the show. (They got away with the line "You're a wizard, Harry" because he was one. Even the comic book seems more successful than the show. Paul Blackthorne was well-cast as the title character, but neither he nor Valerie Cruz nor Terrence Mann could make the show get ratings. THE DRESDEN FILES. D) This short-lived show had clans of vampires operating secretly in San Francisco. It was based on already-established vampire fiction- novels, computer games and role-playing games. It was described once as "a cross between 'the Godfather' and 'Melrose Place.' C, Thomas Howell and Kelly Rutherford were actors of note. But I'm sure White Wolf Publications made some nice change off of it. KINDRED:the EMBRACED. E) This short-lived black-and-white children's television show was about a trio of investigators of the paranormal and unexplained. All 3 wore hats, with one wearing a beanie with a propeller. Forrest Tucker and Larry Storch were 2 of the 3 main actors, playing Kong and Spencer. Oddly enough, Kong was a man and Tracy was a gorilla (with a beanie.) This was done by the animation company "Filmation." About a decade after it aired, Columbia Pictures paid Filmation to license the name- to avoid potential lawsuits when their new movie came out. After the movie was a hit (but before the sequel was filmed), both Columbia and Filmation made new cartoons, with Columbia's based on the movie, and Filmation's based on the show. Both aired around the same time, with Columbia's prefixed "The Real" and Filmation's often as "Filmation's" if at all, but certainly in TV guides to prevent confusion between the two cartoons. Columbia made a successful franchise with this name, since their cartoon had an "Extreme" sequel, there were video games, multiple toy lines, and comic books as well as an UPCOMING third movie. THE GHOST BUSTERS.

That's it. I was trying to name any recognizable actors for each show. Paul Blackthorne was great as Harry Dresden because he's tall and thin, and has a Chicago accent. For Hollywood, that's pretty close to the book series. (As Quentin Lance, I keep waiting for an explanation as to why he has that same accent, but they've not offered me anything.)

Both of those accounts matched Dot Matrix' discussions with Jim. "Weirwille sought things to validate his position. He did NOT research the word and change his opinion to IT. I became pretty good friends with Jim D**p. He told me that he, Jim, had a ministry where they were sexually loose and an anything goes kinda group out in California. Weirwille flew out there, telling folks it was to talk with Jim about the Bible and witness or something to him. Jim told me Weirwille flew out there to LEARN from Jimmy about the free sex thinking. Weirwille said he always believed sex should be free and allowed with as many as you feel you want to be with -- but could NEVER prove it from the Bible. He was there to see if Jimmy could prove it was okay via scripture. Dopp never really could and was more of a hippie minister than a sexual pervert looking for Biblical validation. Weirwille had these concepts, notions, urges, illnesses and tried to find a way to SELL them to us. He was not about to CHANGE his thinking according to scripture. He was not a researcher. He was similar to a lot of cult leaders. He had an idea and looked for people who would buy into it. Like Charlie Manson."

Technically, they are direct from his own book. AFAIK, he never had it mass-produced. One poster (ex-cathedra) had a copy and posted excerpts from it. =================================== http://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/index.ph...st&p=160989 "As we relaxed and had a second drink, he asked Judy and me to describe what is was like to attend an orgy. We were taken back by the question and embarrassed by it, because even though it was part of our testimony in our deliverance from sin to God's righteousness, no one had ever asked us to describe what it was like to go to an orgy. We found his curiosity shocking. But we gave him a brief description which is really all we could give him since our encounter with an orgy had been so brief. We had attended one orgy sponsored by the San Francisco Sexual Freedom League, but we were so overwhelmed by the spectacle that we had left after twenty minutes. "You know that's all available," V.P. said. "God put it in I Corinthians 7:1 which He said 'It is good for a man not to touch a woman.' If it wasn't available to have sex outside the marriage God would have said 'best' instead of 'good.'" I could not believe what I was hearing. I responded with, "I just thank God that He pulled our soul out of that pit of debauchery." When Judy and I went to bed, I said to her, "I don't believe what he said tonight, and I'm going to forget it. I must have misunderstood him." ========================= A different poster (Sunesis) spoke directly with Jim, and he said the same thing to her. ======================== 'Anyway, Jim told me he had gone to one orgy, and he and his wife didn't like it and did not continue with them. But VP, when he visited SF and the Haight, kept pestering Jim for details. Jim also said, on their down time, he'd go with VP to the porno theatres. Jim said VP treated him like a son, it was the height of the hippie, free love thing, so at that time, even though he thought it a bit weird, he didn't think it was a big deal. He was also terribly hurt, "betrayed" was the word he used, when VP had the infamous meeting and wrenched control of the Way West from California and all the money now had to go to HQ because VP had promised he would never do that, it was all about the Word. " ==========================

Well, hindsight is often 20/20. However, from here, it's obvious he was trying to make an organization of youngsters who were fine with casual sex. When he heard about Christian hippies, he went right over. (Media depictions often made them seem like you could find hippie chicks into casual sex easily if you could find hippie chicks.) In TW:LiL he even telegraphed that. pg-232. "And I liked especially the tenderness among them. You see, they themselves had previously been on sex and dope, so they didn't find fault with everything all the time. They'd hug and kiss each other and that I liked. They were always affectionate. I saw a lot that I liked there." He also asked Jim D00P for details about orgies. Jim was happy that his limited involvement in those things was past and that he was delivered from them. vpw tried to tell him that he was mistaken-that God Almighty was ok with ORGIES. According to Jim's account, "You know that's all available," V.P. said. "God put it in I Corinthians 7:1 which He said 'It is good for a man not to touch a woman.' If it wasn't available to have sex outside the marriage God would have said 'best' instead of 'good.'" I could not believe what I was hearing. I responded with, "I just thank God that He pulled our soul out of that pit of debauchery." When Judy and I went to bed, I said to her, "I don't believe what he said tonight, and I'm going to forget it. I must have misunderstood him." ================================== I wrote this once before: "I thought I saw someone comment about orgies in twi. As far as I know, there were no actual orgies in twi. (At least, I've never heard of any, and I wasn't invited if there were any.) However, now that I give the matter a little thought, it's obvious this was something vpw WANTED but couldn't HAVE. Look back at when he hijacked the hippies. He read about Christians in the Haight-Ashbury area omong the hippies. He'd heard that there was a lot of "free love" among hippies, including orgies. vpw headed out specifically to THOSE Christians. (Not any more local to him, even though it would have been easier to stay in contact with some, say, within a state or so at some college.) He approached them, and noted (even in the sanitized version) how comfortable they were with each other's bodies. He EXPECTED to find hippie Christians who were comfortable with orgies, and that seemed to support his expectation. When alone and drinking with J1m D00p, vpw asked him-repeatedly- about attendance at an orgy, and pressed for SPECIFICS. At that moment, vpw VOLUNTEERED his own invention- a twisting of a verse to claim God was ok with orgies. When D00p resisted the idea, vpw dropped the subject. Time for Plan B- sex with individual hippychicks without orgies. When pliant hippychicks failed to drop out of the sky (boy, what a waste of time to have gone to Haight-Ashbury, he hasn't been able to score any boom-boom from the trip, even after!) he goes to Plan C- using the recruited hippies to recruit youngsters (which he was already doing), and recruit from among THOSE youngsters to bring some on campus, where he could try to cheat on his wife and see how many were willing to have sex with him. That led to Plan D- tricking women into having sex with him from among those on campus. If you look at this from a perspective of "was vpw looking to score sex partners?" then the entire history of twi becomes frighteningly CONSISTENT and makes a lot of sense. Granted, I think he also wanted money, a comfortable living, and much bestowed respect, but the path he selected seems to have been steered straight for "youngsters who might be ok with casual sex with an old married guy."

The thing was that lcm wasn't looking to UNDERSTAND, he was looking to excuse himself from producing any RESULTS. Otherwise, he'd have followed his line of reasoning to its logical conclusions. Look- for the sake of discussion, let's suppose for a moment that his entire system of "believing is a Green Lantern ring" worked IRL, and that fear worked in an opposite direction that was otherwise the same. Let's say he was also correct about a "spiritual temperature." That would mean that, before trying to "believe for" something, it was to his advantage to change the environment by bringing in others to "alter the temperature" before trying. So, he should have filled a room with serious twi'ers who, by definition, would "believe with" him on things, both on the general and on the specific. So, when he had a roomful of the way corps, say, he had changed the temperature as much as could be done, before attempting his feat of "believing to alter reality." Having all of that in place, and lcm STILL being unable to alter reality would mean either one of 2 things: 1) the system is wrong and should not be expected to produce an altering of reality 2) lcm was a spiritual willpower weakling, who was unable to "lift the weight" even with other people nudging the barbell up and reducing its weight, thus making it easier. But anyone thinking this through, if there was anyone left TO think this through, would have been discouraged to do so, and ostracized and kicked out if they did it.

Obscure supernatural shows. Name any to take the round. A) This short-lived show was about a small, close-knit community of werewolves in the Pacific Northwest. Lou Diamond Phillips, Mia Kirschner and Graham Greene turned in good performances, but it was still yanked off CBS far too soon. Short airings on UPN and SyFy didn't do much better in the ratings. Too bad-it was well-written and a better show than much of the new dreck out there. B) This short-lived show was about a vampire detective, and should not be confused with "Forever Knight" despite that. He works out of Los Angeles, and should not be confused with "Angel" despite that. Alex O'Loughlin and Shannyn Sossamon couldn't save this show. C) This short-lived show was about a private detective who operates out of Chicago. He's not a vampire-he's a wizard. It's based on a series of novels that do better than the show. (They got away with the line "You're a wizard, Harry" because he was one. Even the comic book seems more successful than the show. Paul Blackthorne was well-cast as the title character, but neither he nor Valerie Cruz nor Terrence Mann could make the show get ratings. D) This short-lived show had clans of vampires operating secretly in San Francisco. It was based on already-established vampire fiction- novels, computer games and role-playing games. It was described once as "a cross between 'the Godfather' and 'Melrose Place.' C, Thomas Howell and Kelly Rutherford were actors of note. But I'm sure White Wolf Publications made some nice change off of it. E) This short-lived black-and-white children's television show was about a trio of investigators of the paranormal and unexplained. All 3 wore hats, with one wearing a beanie with a propeller. Forrest Tucker and Larry Storch were 2 of the 3 main actors, playing Kong and Spencer. Oddly enough, Kong was a man and Tracy was a gorilla (with a beanie.) This was done by the animation company "Filmation." About a decade after it aired, Columbia Pictures paid Filmation to license the name- to avoid potential lawsuits when their new movie came out. After the movie was a hit (but before the sequel was filmed), both Columbia and Filmation made new cartoons, with Columbia's based on the movie, and Filmation's based on the show. Both aired around the same time, with Columbia's prefixed "The Real" and Filmation's often as "Filmation's" if at all, but certainly in TV guides to prevent confusion between the two cartoons. Columbia made a successful franchise with this name, since their cartoon had an "Extreme" sequel, there were video games, multiple toy lines, and comic books as well as an UPCOMING third movie.

Obscure supernatural shows. Name any to take the round. A) This short-lived show was about a small, close-knit community of werewolves in the Pacific Northwest. Lou Diamond Phillips, Mia Kirschner and Graham Greene turned in good performances, but it was still yanked off CBS far too soon. Short airings on UPN and SyFy didn't do much better in the ratings. Too bad-it was well-written and a better show than much of the new dreck out there. B) This short-lived show was about a vampire detective, and should not be confused with "Forever Knight" despite that. He works out of Los Angeles, and should not be confused with "Angel" despite that. Alex O'Loughlin and Shannyn Sossamon couldn't save this show. C) This short-lived show was about a private detective who operates out of Chicago. He's not a vampire-he's a wizard. It's based on a series of novels that do better than the show. (They got away with the line "You're a wizard, Harry" because he was one. Even the comic book seems more successful than the show. Paul Blackthorne was well-cast as the title character, but neither he nor Valerie Cruz nor Terrence Mann could make the show get ratings. D) This short-lived show had clans of vampires operating secretly in San Francisco. It was based on already-established vampire fiction- novels, computer games and role-playing games. It was described once as "a cross between 'the Godfather' and 'Melrose Place.' C, Thomas Howell and Kelly Rutherford were actors of note. But I'm sure White Wolf Publications made some nice change off of it. E) This black-and-white children's television show was about a trio of investigators of the paranormal and unexplained. All 3 wore hats, with one wearing a beanie with a propeller. Forrest Tucker and Larry Storch were 2 of the 3 main actors. 11 years after the show ran, a cartoon version was adapted from it, airing alongside a rival cartoon with a nearly identical name.

"But he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't smoke The same cigarrettes as me."

Ok, we've got "Band of Brothers", but I'm stumped on the rest.

Oddly enough, there's posters here that disagree with you. Oddly enough, there's posters here that disagree with you. They're making claims you can cast a mountain into the sea with enough "believing", as if you have a Green Lantern power ring. I tend to let a capitalization error slide. When posters are not credited for their posts and others get the credit for it, I tend to say something if I catch it. It's been pointed out there's a paper trail that points back from vpw's so-called "law" of believing to Spiritualists like Albert E. Cliffe. http://www.empirenet.com/~messiah7/rsr_lawbelieve.htm =================== vpw was fond of selling supposed PHYSICAL, MEASURABLE things. "His" entire foundation for "Power for Abundant Living" was based on it. Here's the Orange Book's introduction in its entirety. ------------------------------------- "Introduction: the Abundant Life. Jesus' proclamation as recorded in John 10:10 is the foundational Scripture for this book. ...I am come that they [believers] might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. This verse literally changed my life. My wife and I began in the Christian ministry, plodding ahead with the things of God, but somehow we lacked an abundant life. Then one time I was especially alerted when I read from the Word of God that Jesus said He had come to give us life more abundant. I was startled into awareness. As I looked about me at communities where I had served and among the ministers with whom I had worked, the abundant life was frequently not evident. In contrast to these Christian people, I could see that the secular world of non-Christians were manifesting a more abundant life than were members of the Church. Thus I earnestly began to pursue the question: 'If Jesus Christ came that men and women might have a MORE ABUNDANT LIFE, then why is it that the Christian believers do not manifest even an ABUNDANT LIFE?' I believe most people would be thankful if they ever lived an abundant life; but The Word says Jesus Christ came that we might have life not just abundant, but more abundant. If His Word is not reliable here in John 10:10, how can we trust it anywhere else? But, on the other hand, if Jesus told the truth, if He meant what He said and said what He meant in this declaration, then surely there must be keys, signposts, to guide us to the understanding and the receiving of this life which is more than abundant. This book, POWER FOR ABUNDANT LIVING, is one way of showing interested people the abundany life which Jesus Christ lived and which He came to make available to believers as it is revealed in the Word of God. This is a book containing Biblical keys. The contents herein do not teach the Scriptures from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21; rather, it is designed to set before the reader the basic keys in the Word of God so that Genesis to Revelation will unfold and so that the abundant life which Jesus Christ came to make available will become evident to those who want to appropriate God's abundance to their lives. "

[Here's what was said in the actual class. I hope it entertains you as much as it entertains me.] ========================================================== "Another promise in the Epistle of I John! Way in the back of your Bible! I John! The Epistle of I John! First! Second! Third John! I John 5:14: And this is the confidence [this is the confidence] that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, [if we ask any thing according to his will] he heareth us: Isn't that wonderful? If we have our need and our want parallel we ask anything according to His will; how can it be His Will if we don't know His Word? His Word is His Will that gets our need and our want parallel. If we know His Word we can parallel it off. And once we get our need and want parallel, whatsoever we ask, we get. Many years ago when I was first questing in the integrity and accuracy of God's Word and doing Biblical research, just starting in the field, there were some things in the Word of God that we believed and that we understood and were practicing in our prayer life. And we were really concerned about learning more about God's Word. We had a letter from one of our radio audience from Cincinnati. And this good lady stipulated in that letter stating the following: she said, "now on Thursday night when you have your prayer group meeting and you meet with your people; I'd like for you to pray for an apartment for me. Because I have to find this apartment and I would like for this apartment to be within walking distance, two or three blocks from where I am employed." And she said, "It has to be a furnished apartment because I do not have my own furniture," and she said, "while your praying for this apartment within this area of where I am gainfully employed will you please ask God that in this furnished apartment there will be red drapes on the living room windows." My, oh my. That shook me. I thought to myself well good lord, if I'm going to pray for her for an apartment and she gets that apartment she ought to be thankful. What difference does if make if its got pink drapes or yellow drapes or orange drapes on the living room window? But she had stipulated in her letter please pray that there be red drapes on the window. Well I don't know who did the believing, I helped in the praying but I want to tell you something that night spiritually I hadn't gone this far; I believed for the apartment this I could believe for, it was a need I understood this. So I believed that she'd have an apartment but I can't imagine and I know that I did not believe anything about drapes at all. But we prayed that evening and within fifteen minutes of the time when we had prayed for this situation this lady in Cincinnati many, many, many miles away had a telephone call from an entire stranger who said to her "a friend of yours told me that you have need of an apartment, is this right?" And she said, "yes." And she said, "well where's it located?" He said, "well such and such a place." Within two blocks of where she was employed. So she said to him, "May I come and see it in the morning?" He said, "You certainly may." They made an appointment. She went next morning and looked at this apartment. And when she walked into the living room what do you think the color of those drapes were on those living room windows? Green, oh no they weren't. They were fire engine red. That's right. People, she must have had her need and her want parallel. Look at this. All right! She rented a furnished apartment and it had to have drapes on the window, right? Does it make God any difference whether the drapes are green or red or pink? No, but she had a need, that need was that they might as well have red drapes on, that's what she wanted. She got her need and her want parallel. She not only got that apartment but she got the red drapes on the windows. You talk about the accuracy of God's Word when He said He'll supply all of our need according to His riches in glory. Doesn't say He'll supply our greed but He'll supply our need according to His riches in glory. That's true. It's wonderful." ================================================= [That was obvously far too STUPID to survive scrutiny. So, when it came time to transcribe the classes, this made-up story that vpw INSISTED happened was not included.]

[A) When you mean me, it's "WordWolf" with both "w"s capitalized. B) When you mean skyrider, it's properly with no caps, although skyrider seems cool about it either way. C) Do not spell skyrider as "W-o-r-d-w-o-l-f", that's not cool at all. skyrider brought up vpw's extra-Biblical "camera" analogy/explanation. ] [Taking as a given that everything you said was 100% true, does this mean Selina believed the brick wishing well into existence, or that God Almighty showed her revelation at His discretion?]