WordWolf

Some people here think exactly that. Others think the "conflict" between the two is a False Dilemma. They might say their salvation doesn't REQUIRE any good works, but they do good works out of thankfulness FOR it. YMMV.

No, but you're thinking there's a logic to it-which is a good line of thought. Here's the lyrics. ================== I was five and he was six We rode on horses made of sticks He wore black and I wore white He would always win the fight Bang bang, he shot me down Bang bang, I hit the ground Bang bang, that awful sound Bang bang, my baby shot me down. Seasons came and changed the time When I grew up, I called him mine He would always laugh and say Remember when we used to play? Bang bang, I shot you down Bang bang, you hit the ground Bang bang, that awful sound Bang bang, I used to shoot you down. Music played, and people sang Just for me, the church bells rang. Now he's gone, I don't know why And 'til this day, sometimes I cry He didn't even say goodbye He didn't take the time to lie. Bang bang, he shot me down Bang bang, I hit the ground Bang bang, that awful sound Bang bang, my baby shot me down...

"Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)"

After this many days, looking it up is allowed. If I'm going to do it, I'll make it count. So I play Eli Wallach The Magnificent Seven James Coburn

DWBH, I have to make 2 corrections. Not about vpw's money-grubbing, nor his sociopathic nor narcissistic behaviour, nor his extra-marital affairs, nor his rampant plagiarism. I'd like to mention that his own admissions said that he'd completed his education and been working for a year as a minister and preaching weekly-before believing the Bible was the Word of God (which raises the question of what he was doing all that time.) That's an addition, not a correction, however. There's a smaller and a larger correction. That's the first thing, and it's minor for this subject. The ALLEGED blizzard-because all weather reports showed MILD WEATHER that never got close to freezing for the days of the event he attended, and all accounts completely contradicted that there was even one flake of snow on the ground or in the air. When asked about the discrepancy, vpw's response was not that the person must be in error because he was there and was in a blizzard-anyone who's ever experienced a heavy snowstorm knows very well what they are like. He IMMEDIATELY switched his story to say that angels lied to him, answered the phones, put hallucinations of snow when he looked out the windows, and so on. So, the correction was the addition of "ALLEGED" to "blizzard", because this blizzard only existed in vpw's account and not in reality. I had to respond to this. When vpw told his legendary pile of something to Elena W, he DID include some information. We discussed it in the thread, complete with the page#s. On page 178, he said it was September of 1942. ""After I met Rosalind Rinker in Indiana, I invited her to visit us in Payne, and she came for a week that summer of 1942. Maybe it was August. I remember it was near the end of summer..." "Then Rosalind left. It was the fall of the year. Kids were back in school already. It must have been September. I was sitting in my office, an old dentist's office just around the corner from the church where I prayed-I'll show you that too when we get there. I bet you it's still there, though I haven't been back here since I left. I was praying. And I told Father outright that He could have the whole thing, unless there were real genuine answers that I wouldn't ever have to back up on. And that's when He spoke to me audibly, just like I'm talking to you now. He said He would teach me the Word as it had not been known since the first century if I would teach it to others." On page 180, he returned to the account. ""Well, on the day God spoke to me, I couldn't believe it. But then I came to the point by the next day where I said to myself-maybe it's true. So the next day I talked to God again. I said, 'Lord, if it's really true what you said to me yesterday, if that was really you talking to me, you've got to give me a sign so that I can really know, so that I can believe.' The sky was crystal blue and clear. Not a cloud in sight. It was a beautiful early autumn day. I said 'If that was really you, and you meant what you said, give me a sign. Let me see it snow.' My eyes were tightly shut as I prayed. And then I opened them. The sky was so white and thick with snow, I couldn't see the tanks at the filling station on the corner not 75 feet away." On page 181. ""That's where I was sitting when I prayed to God to teach me the Word and show me how. And when I opened my eyes, it was snowing so hard I couldn't see those gas pumps right there." He points to the pumps a dozen yards or more from the window." Naturally, there's several problems with this account. 1) In Mrs W's book (ghost-written with some input by her), the account mentions that he never told anyone about this until shortly before he told Elena W for this book. Not even his wife. Wife of a minister, this happened, and he never mentioned it to her at the time. She had to hear it 3 decades later with everyone else. 2) His account changes there also- the account he told Mrs W said the thick snow made the skies appear BLACK in the middle of the day. The account he gave Elena W said the thick snow made the skies appear WHITE in the middle of the day. If this event actually happened and changed his life, he'd reliably remember whether it made the sky look WHITE or BLACK or left them unchanged. 3) The promise claimed to receive was meaningless. The things he learned were not lost since the First Century AD. He learned them all from people alive in the 19th and 20th centuries-which means all the information was available before he started. It was based on a lack of understanding of a student who didn't know his history. Not a surprise if an indifferent student like vpw made it up-but completely inexplicable if GOD ALMIGHTY made errors of that magnitude. However, I'm going off-topic. My point was that he never specified the date, but he had it down to the month and year. As for the location, I'd have to check whether it was Payne or Van Wert or it kept changing, but he specified the window he looked out of in Elena's book. Correction: Found it. Page 196. "after the day that God spoke to me in that old dentist's office in Payne" It occurred, allegedly, in the old dentist's office in Payne that he was using as an office external to the church and his home.

Worse- by changing "Thy will be done" to "I'll do Thy will", there's a subtle but important distinction being made where I become the important one in the sentence, and the critical one in how events unfold. I have an important part to play, but I don't have a CRITICAL part to play. I'm not excused for poor conduct or failure to act, but I'm not the one upon which the entire tableau revolves. vpw's "me-centered" theology struck again.

Bravo! Nicely reasoned. Hermione impersonated 3 characters successfully- Harry Potter, Bellatrix Lestrange, and Mafalda Hopkirk. So the actor/actresses for those roles played Hermione for those scenes-with Emma Watson providing the voice. I grouped them together to suggest the context was the same-which it was. Hermione's also been spoofed lots of times. Mrs Wolf figured it out eventually from seeing the SNL scene of Lindsay Lohan as Hermione (funny script, poorly acted), but might have gotten it from Noma Dumezweni. There was a LOT of kerfluffle over a black actress cast for Hermione for "Harry Potter and the Cursed Child." Instead of just saying "it's theater, just go with it", JKR actually said that, since Hermione's race was never mentioned, it wasn't a contradiction of any kind. Then there's the other parodies. Crista Flanagan was in "Epic Movie." Miranda Richardson ("Rita Skeeter") was Hermione in "Harry Potter and the Secret Chamberpot of Azerbaijan". Nigella Lawson (yes, the chef) was in "Louis Potter and the Philosopher's Scone." Of course, there were only 7 Harry Potters in the 7 Potters scene, so if you cared enough, you could have narrowed it down more by dredging your memory. 1 WAS Potter, so that makes 6 fakes. 2 were Weasley twins. 1 was Mundungus Fletcher-who gave himself away. 1 was Ron. 2 were female- Hermione and Fleur Delacour. If I tried to make a round based around guessing Clèmense Poèsy's character, I would be burned in effigy-and deservedly so.

Ok, name the character: Nigella Lawson Miranda Richardson Crista Flanagan Daniel Radcliffe (technically) Helena Bonham-Carter (technically) Sophie Thompson (technically) Noma Dumezweni Lindsay Lohan There's a giveaway actress, but I'm hoping not to post her. Noma Dumezweni was in the news over controversy when she was cast for this role, so you might remember that. BTW, parodies with the same name count, whether or not the owner of the copyrights endorsed them. And there's a perfectly good reason all those "technical" names are listed together.

He was doubtless referring to the snack in the Harry Potter-verse, as bought on the Hogwarts Express train on the way to the school. For the record, I consider the soul to be a function of the body, and to relate to the consciousness, but I'd be more likely to refer to it as the life-force, or the animation of the body. I'd consider that anything BUT supernatural. Of course, I'm sure my usages are not only non-standard, but we'd disagree as to specifics even if it sounded like we agreed on terms. We'd agree, more or less, that the "soul" would be the "self", for some value of the word "self" or another.

Ok, name the character: Nigella Lawson Miranda Richardson Crista Flanagan Daniel Radcliffe (technically) Helena Bonham-Carter (technically) Sophie Thompson (technically)

*thinks* *leaves and comes back* *thinks* "The Karate Kid"? I THINK that's the song during the montage of the All-Valley Tournament.

Just to clarify, since your phrasing got peculiar there... Your basic position is that the "soul" is the "consciousness", and does not exist beyond that as something thought of as uniquely "soul", correct? (Otherwise, it sounded like you were saying you don't believe in "consciousness".)

CORRECT! The other was "the Cotton Club."

"Minnie the Moocher." (There's 2 possible answers-I will accept either.)

Happy Anniversary!

That's it. Everything from "he ends up in jail" onward was from "Man of La Mancha."

In this movie, a car salesman is at risk of losing his job, and defaulting on a loan to a Mafia don. He ends up in jail. His fellow inmates hold a mock trial for him. His defense takes the form of a play, with him taking the role of an old man who lost his mind and thinks he must go forth as a knight-errant in Spain, battling imaginary giants. Stars include Robin Williams, Tim Robbins, Fran Drescher, Peter O'Toole, Sophia Loren, and James Coco.

"The Wizard of Oz."

That's it. Supposedly, when adjusted for inflation, it's the #3 movie of all time in overall ticket sales. As for the gazebo, that reminded me of a story of a different gazebo. The Tale of Eric and the Dread Gazebo. https://dndshallneverdie.blogspot.com.ar/2007/11/from-dread-gazebo-part-of-blackhammers.html BTW, Austrians don't care about the edelweiss- it's a SWISS symbol. Julie Andrews had just finished filming "Mary Poppins." It was in the can but had not been released yet. Julie sang some of the songs for the kids in this movie. They thought she invented "Supercalifragil..." for them.

I doubt it's with an agenda. Contrary to what vpw said, it's possible for 2 words to be, in effect, synonymous. "krima" and "krisis", in the Koine Greek, appear to be so, at least from what I found. The first question is: are psuche and pneuma synonymous? I believe they are similar concepts, but not identical-and the differences can be profound when that's the case. If he's saying they are synonymous, I believe he believes that, and is in error believing so. It's not a shock to me that a pastor, preaching for a living, can make rather elementary errors when trying to understand the Bible. I don't think a lot of them have good study habits or understand how to read the Bible for what's on the page. They're trained to preach, and any other training might be light or missing completely.

The Spanish title for this movie translates to "The Rebel Novice" ("La Novicia Rebelde.") This movie features a song with connotations of national pride. It was made up for the movie, and the country it was made up for doesn't really know the song. That's possibly because it uses a symbol a DIFFERENT country connects with connotations of national pride. One actor was trying to get a sense of his character. So, he went to the Salzburg mountains to ask his nephew what he was like. According to the nephew, he was the most boring man he'd ever met. In a scene filmed at a gazebo, one actress injured her ankle in the first take. The final version has the bandages hidden by makeup. The principal actress almost turned the role down. At first glance, she thought the role was too similar to her (eponymous) character in the film she had just finished. When this film was first released on home video, it stayed on the charts for over 250 weeks, almost five years.

In this movie, a car salesman is at risk of losing his job, and defaulting on a loan to a Mafia don. He ends up in jail. His fellow inmates hold a mock trial for him. His defense takes the form of a play, with him taking the role of an old man who lost his mind and thinks he must go forth as a knight-errant in Spain.

lcm's wacky weekend? ;)

How about just plain "Airport"???

"The Impossible Dream."