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Oooo. That may be how they did it in Acts (sure looks like it from reading Acts), but these modern self-proclaimed repeaters of what was done in Acts won't like it one bit....

Hey, it worked for wierwille....very successfully, in fact. "Always be sincere, even if you don't mean it."- Benny Hill. For the record, vpw's explanation of "sincerity" often contradicted with the dictionary one. The one he used in pfal did not. The one he used other times did. "The brush salesman who tries to sell you a brush with only one bristle has GOT to be sincere." No, unless he's hallucinating, he KNOWS the thing doesn't work. He has to FAKE sincerity. Since vpw seemed to claim that FAKING sincerity and BEING sincere were one and the same, it really should come as no shock that he faked his sincerity for the cameras and recordings all the time.It's internally-consistent.

So, then, Chuck Berry's "My Ding-A-Ling."

"Nothing" comes to mind now. :)

One poster mentioned a discussion 2 years before the ANNOUNCED split about plans for a split. For us regulars, this really comes as no shock. The whole "we don't know where this will go" thing was mere posturing. They were already out the door when they made their first announcement and broadcast and stuff.

Reminds me of a Chuck Berry song. Am I on the right track?

An Officer and a Gentleman Richard Gere First Knight

By the time you got involved, nearly everyone who''s ever been in had left. Frankly, I'm shocked anyone new was attending as late as 2010, but there were darn few of you. There's more people attending splinter/ex-twi groups all together than currently attend twi, and more people who've left all of them than are currently in all of them put together including twi. The 1960s had few people in, but they still had people who left. Peter Wade never felt the need to tell us about it or break his anonymity, but he was one who attended then and left that early. The 1970s saw an explosion of new members since the hippies had been recruited- and they recruited lots and lots of people. All the growth of twi can be traced back to them and to the people THEY recruited. During the 1980s, early middle and late, there were plenty of old-timers who left (as well as new arrivals who arrived and left in the 1980s.) lcm insisted all the leaders either swear an oath of loyalty to follow him blindly (he confirmed that by phone to a poster here) or be kicked out- which is why 4/5 the leadership all left at once and were able to form new groups together. The 1990s still saw some of the old people retained, but A) they started the 1990s with 20% of the previous membership, and B) lcm was pushing his personal version of pfal which was inferior, and C) lcm kept making really STUPID policy decisions one after another, and people all got sick and tired of being sick and tired and slipped out the back door if they weren't kicked out one way or another over "genuine spiritual SUSPICION." So, by the early 00s, the membership numbers were under 5000 even including all children. Frankly, I'm amazed the group isn't entirely all just retirees who don't want to find a new church at their age. However, they ARE aging out and losing their remaining members to old age and death, so it's only a matter of time before the remaining membership isn't replaced with younger people.

Right. vpw claimed he didn't care about the money lots of times- when the microphone was on. When it was off, you'd better have all your payments current- and he lived with twi's budget as his slush fund. He didn't live strictly off his salary, he used twi resources and called them "MY STUFF", he called for cash when he wanted to spend some, and he was given a donation in untraceable dollars when he visited places because they passed the hat around. But OFFICIALLY, he didn't care about the money. As for these people, they stayed when all the chickens came home to roost, they stayed when all the exodi occurred, and they only jumped ship NOW as they approached the twilight of their years with no retirement fund or security, while knowing twi kicked out Mrs W and she spent her final years in a nursing home rather than be cared for in her home at twi expense. They knew it was only a matter of time before it was their turn. So THIS triggered their leaving. They were well aware of many old-time leaders who pointed out corruption and problems and were kicked out- they helped do some of the kicking rather than join those leaving. They could even have slipped out quietly, Their actions-and the timing thereof- speak very loudly. I can't hear their sincere-sounding apologies over them, in fact.

CORRECT! Some of the lines I quoted were prety well-known. The coffee shop guy, in the credits, was listed as "Coffee Shop" because of the line "I'm just a coffee shop-". The guy who was asked what country he was from kept answering "what". Do they speak English in "What"? We never found out. Butch's watch was really, really important to him-and that changed a LOT for him. Mia Wallace only knew exactly one joke. And she told it badly. BTW, I never realized Butch's SO was supposed to be expecting. I just thought she and he had weird conversations. But for a rail-thin woman, she sure had a big meal...

harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban Warwick Davis SW Episode I- the Phantom Menace

That's going to be difficult, for a specific reason, and I shall explain why,. A) Can I get it from twi? NO. They're trying to erase any vestiges of lcm''s memory. His VANITY PROJECT was probably first on the list of things to go. So, they don't have it. B) Can I get it from ex-twi? Well, that raises the question- Who would have it? The majority of ex-wayfers who would hang onto something, get digital copies of something, copy something, and so on, are nostalgics. twi nostalgics froze their memory of twi. They only remember the good times, and those good times are almost all of the 70s and NEVER include negative memories of vpw- and in fact bleach those out when they intrude. The Mayberry they constructed is an idyllic version of twi in the 70s where nothing was wrong and so nothing was vpw's fault. They're hanging onto that until death, and some are indoctrinating their kids in the same thing (a few of them, at least.) Those people know things blew up in the 80s. They erase all the crimes of vpw that came to light then. The troubles of the 80s are entirely blamed on lcm. If not for lcm, and if vpw had lived another decade, their 80s would have continued just as fabulous as their 70s (at least in their imaginations.) So, it's all lcm's fault. Would THOSE people immortalize anything loy did? Obviously not. The ones who got on with their lives generally dumped their twi stuff across the decades. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but I don't think you're going to find a copy. Few would have a motive to make or keep one.

I know pfal said to put all other reading materials aside for 3 months. I'm unclear whether it was EXPLICITLY STATED (as in "only read the materials for this class") or whether it was another one of his implications (as in, everyone said that's what he meant, it was clear he meant it from the context, but exactly what to read was left deliberately vague.) Since vpw made it a policy to speak vaguely and lawyer out the distinctions if caught, I suspect it was the latter. I know people told me to read twi materials and put other stuff aside.

This is really a cold case. We have almost nothing, and decades for memories to fade. The only things I can say are from what I can read here and in those links. That's little enough... She was either killed by someone who knew her personally and had a lot of emotion about her, or she was killed by a serial killer. It's either one or the other because of the nature of the facial wounds. They were completely unnecessary to kill her- in fact, someone trying to just kill someone would really interfere with the attempt if they stopped to hit someone in the face. The facial injuries were either done by someone who knew who she was and was angry enough at her SPECIFICALLY to kill her AND want to punish her by damaging her face... or by a serial killer. A serial killer could be trying to vent the anger and vengeance they feel to some specific OTHER person by projecting that person onto their victims. By targeting someone completely innocent, they imagine they're punishing the specific person they are thinking of. The thing is, we don't have a list of who would want to kill her to rule out, or even close friends to question, if they'd even remember anything clearly by now. The other thing I have is that twi pushed hitch-hiking as a way to get around. We've seen people here claim they personally never had a problem with it (all guys, what a coincidence) and did it before twi and a LOT more once they joined. The police have been looking at the possibility she was hitch-hiking and her killer picked her up and then killed her. If the police are correct- and they may be- then if she never joined twi, she might have survived. She would neither have been in that area, nor so sanguine about hitch-hiking. That's everything I've got. Raf, you have knowledge I don't, is there anything you can add to this, or to what I said, even to discount some of it?

With no connections to Hef, the Playmates did "Beep, Beep".

I haven't named the MAIN characters, but I've quoted lines that aren't the BEST known, but are still well-known despite that. We may be alone on this thread right now. I'm sure Human would have gotten it if he'd checked in. (And will kick himself if he checks in too late.)

"My car went into passing gear And we took off with gust Soon we were doing ninety - Must've left him in the dust. When I peeked in the mirror of my car I couldn't believe my eyes: The little Nash Rambler was right behind - I think that guy could fly." "I'll show him that a Cadillac Is not a car to scorn." "Now we're doing a hundred and ten - This certainly was a race For a Rambler to pass a Caddy Would be a big disgrace." NOW does it sound familiar? Even without sound effects?

"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions." "Want some bacon?" "No man, I don't eat pork." "Are you Jewish?" "Nah, I ain't Jewish, I just don't dig on swine, that's all." "Why not?" "Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals." "Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood."" "I am not a hero, I'm just a coffee shop--" " I'm sorry, did I break your concentration? I didn't mean to do that. Please, continue, you were saying something about best intentions. What's the matter? Oh, you were finished! Well, allow me to retort." "What country are you from?" "Whose motorcycle is this?" "It's a chopper, baby." "Whose chopper is this?" "It's Zed's." "Who's Zed?" "Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead." "I'm here to help. If my help's not appreciated, lots of luck, gentlemen."" "No no, Mr. Wolfe, it's not like that. Your help is definitely appreciated "Look, Mr. Wolfe, I respect you. I just don't like people barking orders at me, that's all." " If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast and I need you guys to act fast if you wanna get out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top." "Three tomatoes are walking down the street- a poppa tomato, a momma tomato, and a little baby tomato. Baby tomato starts lagging behind. Poppa tomato gets angry, goes over to the baby tomato, and smooshes him... and says, Catch up. " "Hello, little man. Boy, I sure heard a bunch about you. See, I was a good friend of your dad's. We were in that Hanoi pit of hell together over five years. Hopefully, you'll never have to experience this yourself, but when two men are in a situation like me and your dad were for as long as we were, you take on certain responsibilities of the other. If it'd been me who'd - not made it, Major Coolidge'd be talking right now to my son Jim. But the way it turned out, I'm talking to you. Butch. I got somethin' for ya. This watch I got here was first purchased by your great-grandfather during the first World War. It was bought in a little general store in Knoxville, Tennessee. Made by the first company to ever make wrist watches. Up 'til then, people just carried pocket watches. It was bought by Private Doughboy Ernie Coolidge on the day he set sail for Paris. This was your great-grandfather's war watch and he wore it everyday he was in that war, and when he'd done his duty, he went home to your great-grandmother, took the watch off, put it in an old coffee can, and in that can it stayed until your granddad, Dane Coolidge, was called upon by his country to go overseas and fight the Germans once again. This time they called it World War II. Your great-grandfather gave this watch to your granddad for good luck. Unfortunately, Dane's luck wasn't as good as his old man's. Dane was a Marine and he was killed -- along with all the other Marines at the battle of Wake Island. Your granddad was facing death. He knew it. None of those boys had any illusions about ever leavin' that island alive, so three days before the Japanese took the island, your granddad asked a gunner on an Air Force transport, name of Winocki - a man he had never met before in his life - to deliver to his infant son who he'd never seen in the flesh, his gold watch. Three days later, your granddad was dead, but Winocki kept his word. After the war was over, he paid a visit to your grandmother, delivering to your infant father his dad's gold watch. This watch. This watch was on your daddy's wrist when he was shot down over Hanoi." "You leave town tonight, right now, and when you gone, you stay gone, or you be gone. You lost all your LA privileges. Deal?"

"My car went into passing gear And we took off with gust Soon we were doing ninety - Must've left him in the dust." "I'll show him that a Cadillac Is not a car to scorn."

When I was a kid, I found that the answers I was given in Roman Catholicism were grossly lacking and I rejected them as having the answers I needed. Since I thought they were THE Christian group, I concluded that NO Christian could give me the answers I needed, and rejected all of Christianity as I rejected Judaism, Islam, etc. Sounds like you may have made the same decision, T-Bone. If not, it at least sounded familiar to me.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055151/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mask_(1961_film)

Roger Corman's original was in black-and-white on a shoestring budget, and a young Nicholson was in the cast. The woman "Audrey" survived that, but no other main character did. Later, there was a musical, and a movie of the musical. Frank Oz directed it. That had Steve Martin as a dentist. In that movie, the couple survives, but we see a bud of the same plant where they settle down. The test audiences saw one where the plants-which were aliens in all versions AFAIK- overran the Earth and broke the 4th wall attacking through the movie screen. The idea of someone overthinking elements from books and movies is common. "Deep thinkers" can go on for pages on something that was a whim or an accident, according to the author. And yes, many people don't know there was a b-&-w original by Corman.

Yes. I was trying not to make the first set easy. What gave it away-Nicholson?

No. Different song, different title, different artist.

-There's a title that's shared by 2 movies-which is fair since they're 2 different versions of the same story. The 2nd version was directed by Frank Oz. The 1st included Jack Nicholson among the cast. -None of the endings of the story were incredibly happy. However, in the original, one of the main characters survives, and in the 2nd, 2 of them do (but their future looks endangered.) The 2nd one had an ending that was trashed and never made it past the test audiences- everybody died, and the Earth was invaded, quite successfully (complete with the theater audience among the casualties, with a 4th wall break.) -Many people forget (or don't know) there was an original version, which was a black-and-white. In that one (made on a shoestring budget of about $30,000 US), they used a clip of a full moon as a cutaway to bridge 2 scenes that didn't link properly. 20 years later, they were shocked to read an 8-page magazine article about the significance of the moon in that movie.