WordWolf

So, to recap, Raf is correct.

The first show was "The Muppet Show", the second was "Muppets Tonight", and the third was "the muppets'. When Jim Henson was putting together his first muppet show, he was unable to find any interest whatsoever in Hollywood. He had to go to the UK and ITV to find a home. ITV's subgroup, ATV, was run by Lew Grade. There's a nod to him in The Muppet Movie- the Hollywood producer played by Orson Wells, was named "Lew Lord" (Lew Grade became Lord Lew Grade in 1976.) It looks like the Muppet Show may have been filmed at Elstree Studios, a name which should ring a bell for fans of the original Star Wars trilogy.

Having NEVER seen The Muppet Movie, (it came up once), George sounds like he may never have seen any Muppet show, ever.

The "Muppet Babies" spinoffs (both with that name) were animated, but the 3 shows had live guests and muppets as the actors.

CORRECT! The Muppet Show was the first. Later seasons have passing mentions of The Muppet Movie (the Christopher Reeve episode has Miss Piggy preparing to sing "Never Before" and mentioning to Kermit she sang it to him in the movie.) The third show, "the muppets ", came out shortly after the movie "The Muppets." The animated spinoffs were "the Muppet Babies", and one version is current. The critics seemed to applaud "the muppets" but the ratings were in the basement and the show was pulled fast. The Muppet Show lasted 5 seasons, "the muppets" lasted one, and "Muppets Tonite" was 2 seasons long (picking up a second season when it was dropped by one network and picked up by another-the Family Channel IIRC.)

This show had way more guest-stars than "Lost in Space."

Not any form of Brady. None of the shows I mentioned were animated. (I chose not to mention 2 animated spinoffs among my clues.)

Knowing your posting history, I would not be surprised if you never sat down to watch ANY of them. However, you certainly know the first show, and may know of at least the most recent.

Possibly the main divide in the RCC now is the "traditional" vs "Novo Ordus" stuff. One thing I've noticed with the new stuff, besides "charismatic Catholics", is both an increase in involvement of the laity (the everyday churchgoers) and an increase in involvement in and of Franciscan orders (of which there are several.) I see those as overlapping. When I was in contact with a parish in NYC where the laity was very active, involved, and fun to be around, I joked about their parish possibly ruffling a few feathers. One of the lay-leaders told me, matter-of-factly, that this was a Franciscan parish, so involvement was encouraged. I don't have real problems with "trads" other than to say that I think the new guys are, in at least some cases, pillars of their local communities, and genuinely helping those in need (with food and other necessities as well as job assistance.) I grew up with a "trad" RCC parish, and the thing felt PONDEROUS. It didn't seem to affect its community beyond the reach of sound during held masses. Granted, they had a parochial school, which was a real benefit to the families who sent their kids there, but otherwise it seemed fine ignoring the community and vice versa. The aloof arrogance, frankly, wasn't a bad preparation for the aloof arrogance of twi. It should not be a terrible shock that "novo ordus" stuff and "charismatics" are correlated. If it's all real, then God's working with the people who actually care and want to help. If it's all just religion and sociology, then the "charismatic" stuff won't be embraced by the old guard and will be embraced by the new- precisely because of who they both are, and it will help form a demarcation between the two.

This show lasted for 5 seasons. It had 2 shows eventually follow. One/the 2nd used a very similar format and lasted for about 2 seasons (changing networks in the process.) The third/other used a completely different format and lasted 1 season. Apparently, critics seemed to like it, but the public didn't watch it. (Me, I thought it was awful, but I don't speak for everyone. In fact, I found "The Star Wars Holiday Special" more watchable.) None of the shows premiered while any of the others was in production of new episodes, nor did they premiere shortly after any of the others ended filming. Although the first show occasionally made a passing reference to a cinematic release, AFAIK, the others did not (in the case of the last one, that seems just a little strange, given the timing.) Name the first show (for bragging rights, the names of all 3 shows.) I found the 3rd series unwatchable. All the shows had different names from each other. However, you'd know they shared characters just from the titles. Another tidbit is that all 3 shows premiered in different decades, and were not only separated by a few months (one premiering at the end of one decade, another at the beginning of the next), they premiered long after the preceding one had entered syndication in one form or another. BTW, my mention of The SWHS was not a clue, just a measure of how unwatchable I found the newest show. The third show was billed as a sort of "slice of life comedy" and a "mockumentary". I found the resulting product both unfunny and an abandonment of everything that made the first show memorable and accessible to the whole family (a classic, as I see it.) You may disagree, of course (the critics did and I don't know why.) Another example of Hollywood not being able to find 2 brain cells to rub together was that the first show was unable to find a studio or network willing to take a chance on it anywhere IN Hollywood. Eventually they found one elsewhere, and the results were excellent.

*checks* Interesting coincidence. "Get Smart" ALSO lasted 5 seasons. However, it didn't have 2 series' follow, and the later "Get Smart" was meant to follow approximately the same format, with Agents 86 and 66 working together in an action-comedy.

The only movie I know of that was remake shot for shot was "PSYCHO". Other than the amount of stolen money, I think the script was identical.

Yes on the timing, I mentioned them chronologically, and Show 3 lasted one season. The shows all shared SOME characters but not every single one was shared with any of the others. I'd need a tight definition on "spin-off" to know if you'd think they were spin-offs. I'd say "no", but it's open to interpretation. (They do share some characters as the same characters.)

I was definitely talking about the 3rd series. I found it unwatchable. All the shows had different names from each other. However, you'd know they shared characters just from the titles.

Ok, next round. This show lasted for 5 seasons. It had 2 shows eventually follow. One used a very similar format and lasted for about 2 seasons (changing networks in the process.) The other used a completely different format and lasted 1 season. Apparently, critics seemed to like it, but the public didn't watch it. (Me, I thought it was awful, but I don't speak for everyone. In fact, I found "The Star Wars Holiday Special" more watchable.) None of the shows premiered while any of the others was in production of new episodes, nor did they premiere shortly after any of the others ended filming. Although the first show occasionally made a passing reference to a cinematic release, AFAIK, the others did not (in the case of the last one, that seems just a little strange, given the timing.) Name the first show (for bragging rights, the names of all 3 shows.)

Correct! Norwegian Wood, the Beatles. Beautiful song about a guy who's led on by a girl, and gets back at her by torching her house.

Next song. "I sat on a rug, Biding my time, Drinking her wine. We talked until two, And then she said "It's time for bed". "

Hey- in "Crisis in the 30th Century/Crisis in Triplicate", Mordru was shoved aside as the big bad by the Demons Three! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_(DC_Comics)#"Crisis_in_the_30th_Century!"_and_"Crisis_in_Triplicate!" https://comicvine.gamespot.com/justice-league-of-america-147-crisis-in-the-30th-c/4000-17839/ The JLA, JSA and LSH had to work together to defeat them. All 3 teams TOGETHER? Big villains in a "crisis" Summer crossover? Back benchers? The singing thing was a reference to seeing "the Star Wars Holiday Special" the one time it aired. (And decades later as a bootleg.)

Well, don't be surprised if we respond before spending 1 hour, 4 minutes on the thing. I still haven't seen all of it, and I caught around 45 minutes last night. Covering some of the same verses as twi, she came to some of the same conclusions Leonard and others have come to. Do you have more about this "Novus Ordo"? I'm sure I'm not the only one who's curious.

It certainly would be appreciated. When someone doesn't mention the length, I tend to think it's under 15 minutes and usually less. It is nice to let people know when they'd have to sit for an hour to listen to the whole thing, and when to go to if there's a specific question.

It's been a niche subject, but they've been discussing it (in small groups) since at least the early 70s and possibly sooner. So far, nothing like a big encyclical saying "Ok, now, everybody read up on this" or anything.

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He subject used to be called "Charismatic Catholics." You might find more information under that title. (Yes, they used "charismata" as the root for "charismatic" since they say those are gifts. If it's ONE gift, it may be considered A "charisma" per Christian, so, the title still works under the other system.)

I thought the "Hadouken!" Street Fighter reference might throw you off. Apparently, not at all. I didn't even get to use "Say my name!" "BILLY!!!" Took place in Philly. Miss Fawcett City? I do, at least a little. I STILL see the image up. I don't know why you can't.

Here's something that's not particularly old. "Hadouken!" "I can see why Rocky climbed up all the way here." "Hey, guys, can you shoot him in the face? "Yeah, yeah, shoot me in the face!... Wait, what?"