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My actual answer.... With both of them mindful of how the other worked, I thought that Ollie was trying to be more like Barry and just ACT. Also, I thought that Barry (being Barry) wouldn't actually put remote launchers in place. Then again, he WAS trying to be more like Ollie.

The "Smallville" theme was cute. BTW, I almost never watched that show, but I recognized the theme instantly. I apparently didn't have the audio up enough to make out Gotham music. It was announced that the intention was to get a lesbian actress to play this lesbian character. For the sake of discussion, supposing that was a sensible reason to cast, the absence of a process was offensive. Really, with all the lesbian actresses out there, this was the one they chose for the role? She was ill-suited for it other than "She's a lesbian? Ok, she's hired. We don't need to do an audition or anything." Also, let's keep up on our terms. She more recently announced herself "gender-fluid." When her gender switches to male, then she's heterosexual. By the "logic" used to cast her, she should be rejected because she's not a lesbian part of the time. If I were gay and looking to see gays playing gays, I'd be offended at the suggestion that this poor fit was the best they could do. Then again, who cares what I think? I don't imagine there's anything left to say on that one. Moving on.... I caught the name "IVO" immediately. Cute that MIRAKURU came up with this Ivo just as in Earth-One, when his ship, "the Amazo", was at Liang-Yu, housing mirakuru experiments. Mrs Wolf also pointed out that J'onn around would have made the fight unmanageable. Shapechanging, phasing, invisibility, mind-reading.... I have trouble picturing a TV still working but unable to render the names. Ok, let's see..... Room 341, O. Cobblepot, Room 342, P. Isley, Room 343, B. Karlo, Room 344 E. Nigma (has a riddle scrawled to its right), Room 345 M. Guggenheim, then Deegan's "office." Yes, John was obvjously a GL on Earth-90, whether as Diggle or Stewart (just as Jay Garrick's Earth-1 counterpart wasn't Jay Garrick.) The AMAZO fight was needed for the audience's sake. It also looked cooler than a strict depiction of the original Amazo in the comic books. Later versions had him look more robotic. Yes, the "scan to copy" thing made a lot of sense and looked cool. The only description Flash-90 gave of CoIE was that the Monitor's predicting a crisis, and thinks the Elseworlds "approximates the collision of realities we are facing." So, Earths will collide, and the Monitor thinks that their collisions will warp what's going on in the Earths that collide, resulting in status quo changes, some of them radical. I'm suspicious this will be a lot of build-up, and the results will be less than epic. I don't think they have a cast big enough to begin this, nor enough heavy-hitters, nor will they devote enough episodes to really develop the story. (I liked "Invasion!" but it fell FAR short of the "Invasion!" comic book storyline- and THAT felt rushed with everything happening.

One does not have to agree with something to understand it, and it's not impossible to fairly represent something with which you disagree. Naturally, I think I'm in the minority on that, but, as we see, I'm not the only one who says that. (Even when we disagree on other things. Then again, who agrees on EVERY thing?)

" I saw Mrs. Claypool first. Of course, her mother really saw her first but there's no point in bringing the Civil War into this." "Never in my life have I received such treatment. They threw an apple at me." "Well. Watermelons are out of season." "I've been sitting right here since 7 o'clock." "Yes, with your back to me. When I invite a woman to dinner, I expect her to look at my face. That's the price she has to pay." "Let joy be unconfined. Let there be dancing in the streets, drinking in the saloons, and necking in the parlour. Play, Don." "Do you have everything, Otis?" "I haven't had any complaints yet!" ""You live here all alone?" "Yes. Just me and my memories. I'm practically a hermit." "Oh. A hermit. I notice the table's set for four." "That's nothing - my alarm clock is set for eight. That doesn't prove a thing."

Ok, minimal spoilers until I hear something else. I'm sure you recognized Arkham Asylum's inmates. The only name I didn't get instantly was Mark Guggenheim- writer of Batman Confidential, some of the Arrowverse episodes, and probably that very same one. I tried to reserve judgement on Ruby Rose's performance until I saw it. I already had a partially-lowered opinion of her from previous information (making a professional name out of a cartoon character, deciding to go into acting with a LOT of tattoos-which limits your role potential, Australians saying they didn't know why Americans gave her a job acting after she was unable to find work in Australia due to being a bad actress, etc.) Having seen her in the role, both the Mrs and I think she was a horrible casting choice, and we both have different lists of reasons for it. (I assume they overlap, but I'm unlikely to subject her to a separate discussion about why a bad actress is bad. ) Assuming that "she's a bad actress overall" is not a reason (even though it's enough by itself), let's look at her and that role. She was a POOR FIT for playing Kate Kane. They had to rewrite the character to make her work at all- after there was already a vision for the character. That, to me, is a sign the wrong actor was picked. Look- the remake of "Clash of the Titans" wanted an actor for Perseus. He accepted- but wanted major changes in the tone and meaning of the movie for him to play it. Changing the whole movie to cater to one actor is a bad sign for the movie, and, IMHO, should NEVER be done. It's a sign they have the wrong person for the job. "I can do it- but you'll need to cater to me first" means we need to screen more applicants! Things only go downhill from there- ask any supervisor. But they used that same actor, and made major changes to the script for him. RR looks nothing like KK- so they changed the character A LOT to say "and this is what the character looks like." Assuming she only has one voice she can act in- otherwise, she was an idiot for not using 2- RR is a poor choice for ANY character with a secret identity. In this intro, Kare Kane sounds EXACTLY like Batwoman and like what Batwoman should be expected to sound like. I don't know if she was a poor choice for someone wearing the Batwoman costume, but she's an awful fit for Kate Kane. Simply put, they could have found a BETTER actress that fulfilled their list to fill the role. As far as the crossover goes, other than that, I liked it. Even there, I appreciated little things like the Shakespeare head. I felt there was a major loss with a failure to use the line "would you care to step outside" in Part 3. I was expecting it when we got there. As the crossover began, I asked about characters who were brought into it a bit later. "The Trigger Twins"? I'm almost sorry we missed the cowboy hats.

Jesus TOLD his disciples that they would have trouble. There was no "but if you believe, there will be no trouble" or "if you believe, the trouble will vanish" or anything like that. As has been said before, by putting the blame on Job, twi aligned themselves with his miserable comforters. Look- trusting God, believing God, is one thing. Believing in your own believing is something entirely different. Your will be done.

Ok, we saw the 3-parter a few days ago. Are we all OK to discuss all of it, or is anyone concerned about spoilers of any kind?

It's of a piece, also, of the magical "Word Faith" system. They rewrote songs to include it. I also noticed recently that when they used parts of traditional songs, they always skipped any verse that suggested we might have trouble. Actually, I noticed it a long time ago with "I Know Who Holds Tomorrow." The missing verse says that tomorrow "may bring me poverty, but the One who feeds the sparrow is the one that cares for me..." Can't speak of any kind of trouble- or you're blamed when it arrives. Can't plan for trouble, either, that's "thinking negatively."

It's not symbolic of anything, but I like to hear "Christmas Rapping," by the Waitresses.

Next movie. " I saw Mrs. Claypool first. Of course, her mother really saw her first but there's no point in bringing the Civil War into this." "Never in my life have I received such treatment. They threw an apple at me." "Well. Watermelons are out of season." "I've been sitting right here since 7 o'clock." "Yes, with your back to me. When I invite a woman to dinner, I expect her to look at my face. That's the price she has to pay."

Must be "Dudley Do-Right." I think you may have been the only one who saw that movie, though.

"THE THREE AMIGOS." The lasso reference made me think in the right direction. The long note confirmed it. But most of all, my kid was at a party Friday afternoon, where a piñata appeared. I checked. Nobody ever asks the staff there if they have a "plethora of piñatas." However, I mentioned that to another Dad, and he cracked up almost instantly. So, the movie was sort-of on my mind lately.

"We have had, in the past, "drive-by" posters who would answer clues but never post any of their own. " "A pox on you and your ancestors!" - Ed Norton.

Yes. Although "crisis" might refer to how we're running around this particular week. Classes are ending for the year, and parents and teachers all want to end with something. Naturally, they pile all of that on us poor parents, who now have a doubled agenda on our plate.

https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/9013-outreach-beyond-vpws-congregation/ Here's the raw link for "Outreach Beyond vpw's congregation."

We discussed the book somewhat in the thread, "Outreach Beyond vpw's congregation".

We're going to power through the Flash episodes, then Crisis, THEN go back and watch the LoT episodes. I'm looking forward to the comment you mentioned. We've seen references to the "red skies" and the Crisis since Eobard Thawne's newspaper headlines were displayed, at least in "Flash."

Yeah, in the comics, the only reason the Monitor appeared in Annuals and whatevers was to establish he'd been around, as a preparation for CoIE. Now there's a bunch of Monitors, which makes no sense if they're supposed to be anything like the original. So, we had Monitor cameos, and then CoIE where we saw a lot of him and his opponent.

Ok, I caught up in "Arrow" and saw the teaser. I liked that the first 2 bodies I saw were recognizable- that was Stargirl and STRIPE. (Remember the Star-Spangled Kid and Stripesy? Well, Stargirl found the Kid's belt and went into action. Stripesy put on an exoskeletal armor to keep an eye on her. At least in the comics, where she how also carries Starman's cosmic rod/staff.)

David Spade PCU Jon Favreau

Ha! Thanks for posting so promptly! Ok let's see.... Although this show was technically before my time, that particular comedian- and that tagline- are still well-known (somewhat) to this day. Was this show "THE HONEYMOONERS"?

Yes, everything he said was true. It's your turn, Grace. Usually, we try to post some sort of clue about once a day, but that's not a rule, just a suggestion. ANYTHING that would help someone guess this show without THEM looking it up is fair as a clue. We have to guess based on what you post, and what we THINK- we can't look it up or we disqualify ourselves for the round. (We work on the Honor System, here.) It's a good idea for the giver of the clues (in this case, you) to look things up so you know the clue is accurate. The guessers must not look up anything. And yes, we prefer to go from the harder clues to the easy clues until someone gets it. (It adds to the fun of us guessing.)

*pictures famous fight scene* Oh, right! Kareem Abdul Jabbar Airplane! Leslie Nielsen

Ok, let's see. These people have said a lot of things that sound like sound teaching. Then again, so did vpw, and he was plagiarizing and considered the twi budget to be his own piggy bank. (And made merchandise of the people, and so on...) They set up the name and website for the ex-twi group while announcing they wanted to try to reform twi, and set up the new group while in twi. (Which is what vpw did- he had his twi original group going for years while he was on the church payroll before he resigned his pastorage.) What else do we have here, among all of the "talking a good game?" "There is not a single individual controlling the group, it is a handful of people controlling the group. And they are tightly knit." Welcome back to the us-and-them. The cadre runs the show, everyone else is second-tier or lower, and has neither voice nor vote on anything. "There is basically a handful of regulars that do the teachings, with the occasional cameo appearance of someone fairly close but not in the true inner circle. " There's a token presence of others, otherwise there's a tier of teachers and that's that.If that was all, it wouldn't be that bad. But it is NOT all... "They are following the teachings of VPW almost entirely, with some modifications here and there, and they all praise VPW almost without exception. " All hail the plagiarizing rapist! He claimed to hear from God while ripping all his material off other Christians- but surely he actually got it all from God. He claimed to have had a Special Connection to God, and he would never have lied about that- we have his assurances he was legit! Let's pretend he really heard from God in 1942 as he claimed almost 30 years later! " There hasn't been any interest expressed as to what we are interested in hearing more about, or topics of interest at all. " There are the insiders, and there's all you jerks. All you jerks need to listen, support the group, buy their stuff, and pay 10% of your income. In return, be thankful they are teaching and selling and keep your fool mouth shut! You have a subject you want to hear taught? Tough! They teach what they want and are not accountable to you as a whole. "While many of the teachings are well done, few have any real relevance to me, and some of them aren't good at all, wandering around a topic like the teacher has no real direction. My situation is unique, and they are just blowing their own horns, showing what they know about a particular topic because that's what they feel like teaching." Like tens of thousands of Christians in the US, they can do some good teachings. In the process, they're more concerned about showing off than someone getting something when they listen. Edification? No, self-aggrandizement. Congratulations! You had the nerve to look behind the curtain, and didn't ignore the man you saw there. You gave them a close look, and saw that they talked a good game, but have nothing to offer you but nostalgia for "the good old days" of twi- which weren't as "good" as we were led to believe. There's plenty of other Christians out there. Many are far better and healthier to associate with. The insular "ex-twi only" system is self-limiting, and can't go much beyond the best performances in old twi days. That's pretty much something they used to criticize churches for at the time- limiting Christians by locking the doctrine.

Hey- vpw started twi to make money- as much as possible, as easily as possible. These are true offshoots- also looking to make money off of religion.