WordWolf

Possibly "A FEW GOOD MEN,", if not.

It sounds like I may have watched the thing, but nothing's clicking yet.

Love, Actually Alan Rickman Galaxy Quest (Love, Actually's one of those Kevin Bacon type of movies. I can link through a few people without repeating actors...)

Wayne's World Brian Doyle Murray Groundhog Day

I suspect nobody here knows this one. I don't, and George seems equally stumped.

I've seen her in something else, but I didn't recognize her. As soon as looking her up is allowed, I can go.

Tango & Cash Clint Howard Apollo 13

Three Men and a Baby Steve Gutenberg Cocoon

A cult survives by hardening the line between "us" and "them", and making "them" so repugnant that we're glad we're not "them." That way, even when "us" are badly oppressed, we're still glad that at least we're not "them". For cults, only "us" qualify for salvation. In twi, for decades now, to leave twi is to leave " the household of God" and forfeit rewards, salvation, or both. People who stay in twi are so lulled to sleep that they don't question how wrong that is.

I'm sure that there's people out there who like to pretend I spend all my free time just slandering people. As a reminder they're wrong, I'd like to point out that I think MOST OF US had the best intentions and a lot of us really wanted to serve God and be our best for God. For MOST OF US, I don't fault our goals, our intentions, our sincerity. As for wierwille, that was another story. He himself lied about what "sincerity" was. We agree it's " no guarantee of truth", since someone can sincerely believe the Earth is flat. But someone who is "sincere" is someone who genuinely says what they think and believe, period. vpw said that "the salesman who tries to sell you the toothbrush that has only 1 bristle in it, he's gotta be real sincere!" Looking back, it says a lot that he made that claim. He said that the salesman who tried to INTENTIONALLY DECEIVE YOU, but who puts forth an IMAGE of sincerity, a FALSE FRONT of sincerity, that person IS " sincere." So, vpw really believed " sincerity" was something that could be COMPLETELY FAKED. THIS is the man whom we trusted as having done as he claimed, dedicating his life to God and the Bible and so on. Because we believed that, we gave him a free pass on scrutiny, and a lot of stuff flew under our radars (like his definition of "sincerity." ) Someone commented on my calling vpw a " plagiarizing rapist." That term offends some people. They think you can't call someone that. The truth is- you can call someone that IF IT IS TRUE. A leader is supposed to be found BLAMELESS. If I made the claims and they were without grounds, then he would be found BLAMELESS. Was vpw a rapist? A NUMBER of women have come forth. Some said he molested them, some said he raped them, some said he drugged THEN molested or raped them. According to the Bible, if 3 or more witnesses claim something, we are to accept it. We had MANY women who said vpw raped them. We had people break down the entire SYSTEM vpw set up. First, he had people write " from birth to the corps" papers, if they wanted to enter the way corps. He used those papers to help screen his victims. People with a past having been a victim of something can be victimized by it again, later, more easily than others. We had accounts of women who said he had their paper IN HIS HAND when he called them in to try and rape them. vpw had A FEW places where he had privacy and a sort of bed- his office, his mobile office, etc. vpw had a network of conspirators who kept an eye out. One could be counted on to bring the women to him and make it look like an innocent calling. Others were to watch her after vpw raped her, and " counsel" her to not consider it rape, not to go to the police. If she seemed likely to go to the police, others gave her the bum's rush off grounds, sending her home by slow Greyhound bus. Why that way? Partly because it was cheap, partly because it gave them time to make phone calls and ruin her reputation before she got home- so nobody would believe her when she said vpw raped her. We had accounts of specific things he said to different women- variations on the same line of patter, since he used that as part of his strategy. We have accounts of what drinks he plied them with, and other details that make me sick. In short, we had PREMEDITATION. He put a LOT of work into his plan. He planned out who to attack, where to attack them, how to attack them, and what to do afterwards to make sure he didn't go to jail. Ever wonder why he wanted an armed bodyguard as he walked the grounds? He never said why he might need one, but I think we all have the most likely possibility in mind.... So, he was a rapist. Furthermore, he was a plagiarist. He also put in a lot of work into getting ahold of the work of quality Christians, concealing those works, then presenting their work as his own. The contents of the pfal class were all ripped off of Leonard, Stiles, and Bullinger (with a little from a few others.) He claimed he worked alone with God, and INSINUATED that everything he taught was from God Almighty to his ears. That included crackpot theories he got from the phone hotline of the John Birch Society. Oh, yes, ONCE he claimed what he taught wasn't original. Was in in the introduction of one book with his name as the author? NO. In the promotional book "The Way-Living in Love", buried over 100 pages in, was an offhand comment. "Nothing I teach is original. Putting it together, that was the original part." No such claim in the Orange Book. No such claim in the White Book. In fact, the White Book he supposedly wrote all by himself in a hotel room, living off grapes. If you remove all of Stiles work and Bullinger's work from the book, then remove Leonard's, you probably will just have the introduction. All the CONTENT was from those men- which is NOT stated anywhere in that book. vpw had 2 types of books with his name as the author. The later, more polished books were written by the research department. He added the introduction and his name as the author. I'm given to understand this is legal- but I personally think it's unethical. He should at least have listed himself as EDITOR, not AUTHOR. The others are the older twi books, and those are compilations of the works of other writers, sometimes with rephrasings, sometimes still with their own phrasings retained. Side by side comparisons of their books have been shown. Ever notice his vocabulary and speaking style sometimes were not reflected in the books? That's because they weren't his books. Ever hear him call someone a " faith-blaster?" That was another writer's term, and vpw just retyped it. By vpw's terms, it at least would have been a " believing-blaster", except he never used "blaster" when speaking. In the early editions of the White Book, he mentioned finding teacher who could make the Holy Spirit field fit. A few editions later, he skips mentioning the man, not even giving Leonard his due credit anonymously. vpw knew very well what he was doing, and tried to cover his tracks somewhat. So, in short, vpw was a plagiarizing rapist. He taught some good Bible because he was parroting the work of those who were quality Christians. I'm thankful to have heard it, but I'm not giving vpw a pass on plagiarizing or raping- or anything else he did- because of it.

SPOILERS FOR "FADEOUT", the series finale of "ARROW." Finally saw the series finale of "Arrow." I just realized I still haven't told Mrs Wolf what John found at the end. My first thought was her only thought- green K. However, I quickly remembered the other possibility, and remembered the reference in one of the crossovers. Mrs Wolf probably didn't think of it because she like the idea that the Earth with the GLs wasn't this one. She thought it wouldn't mesh well. Personally, I think it can mesh as well as Kryptonians, and should have a lot of "Sorry, I was in space" whenever he would be useful to have around. I was surprised Ollie is STILL The Spectre. I thought he went 'poof' when they restarted the universe. Interesting who is back- Tommy Merlyn, Moira Queen, Quentin Lance. Mrs Wolf and I both knew who COULDN'T come back, but she articulated the reason better than I did. (She's the Whovian, and more familiar with paradoxes in stories.) I just thought of some deaths as "locked in" and more critical to the timeline. I remember a comic book where Booster Gold was recruited as the time cop by Rip Hunter. Booster went off on his own, early on. He wanted to prevent the Joker from crippling Barbara Gordon (" the Killing Joke.") After MANY attempts and getting beaten up a LOT, he went back to Rip, who explained that some events CAN'T be changed, and that was one (which is why he told Booster not to try.) BTW, John Byrne was the name given to somebody who went a little crazy? That hits a little close to home. It was nice to see John and Lyla got BOTH their kids, but Mrs Wolf got a little confused and thought that JJ was Connor Hawke/ Ben Turner's son and that they had 1 kid and adopted 1. No, they haven't adopted Connor yet, and those were the son and daughter (John Jr and Sara.) Based on that ending, they gave themselves some flexibility. If they never want to bring Ollie back, that's fine. He and Felicity have their happy ending, period. (A la Earth-2's Lois and Clark, who were sent to some paradise or heaven or something at the close of the comic CoIE 12) Since he said he's The Spectre, we can have him back whenever The Spectre is needed. Or not, since The Spectre's comings and goings are unpredictable at our level, like the Phantom Stranger. The Spectre gets involved if the entire planet is at stake (like " Final Night" ) or more (Crisis on Infinite Earths, a war between Heaven and Hell...) So, the writers have a lot of freedom. Nice to see Rory Regan's back in action, and at least some of the characters have plans in their retirement.

The clue "the 2 shows of Roddenberry that were released after his death" should get both names pretty quickly, especially among the remaining players.

Yes. I mentioned that fairly recently. I also mentioned Sylvester Mc Coy played Radagast the Brown in the Hobbit trilogy, but was otherwise remembered for playing one of the Doctors (the one with the question mark "insignia".) The current one is Jodie Whittaker, the first actress to play the Gallifreyan. Her immediate predecessor was Peter Capaldi, who was the first actor in a while who actually made me think of the Doctor when seeing him. William Hartnell was the First, and "Curse of Fatal Death" had Rowan Atkinson, Hugh Grant, Jim Broadbent and Joanna Lumley as the Doctor with a bunch of regenerations. Tom Baker was the Fourth Doctor- the one with the long scarf and hat, the one people used to think of when picturing Doctor Who (if they're from the US.) So, yes, this was DOCTOR WHO. (The Doctor.)

So, could be an extraterrestrial, someone not from Earth. British fictional character, fairly recent, played by a buttload of actors and at least one actress. What's the question, again?

*wild swing* "Taxi"?????

John Hurt Richard Hurndall Michael Jayston Geoffrey Hughes Toby Jones Peter Cushing Jim Broadbent Hugh Grant Rowan Atkinson Paul Mc Gann Richard E. Grant Joanna Lumley Sylvester Mc Coy Colin Baker Peter Davison Jo Martin David Bradley Michael Jones Adrian Gibbs Mark Gatiss Jodie Whittaker Patrick Troughton Matt Smith William Hartnell Peter Capaldi Tom Baker David Tennant

Even vpw's " speaking in tongues" was repetitive. That's understating the case, if anything. " Lo SHANta ma-la-ka-SI-to la SHONta." - vpw, every time, including when he was making a point that he could actually speak in tongues at will/ whenever he wanted. Either God was sending him, verbatim, the same message EVERY time, down to the last syllable, or vpw was faking it.

John Hurt Richard Hurndall Michael Jayston Geoffrey Hughes Toby Jones Peter Cushing Jim Broadbent Hugh Grant Rowan Atkinson Paul Mc Gann Richard E. Grant Joanna Lumley Sylvester Mc Coy Colin Baker Peter Davison Jo Martin David Bradley Michael Jones Adrian Gibbs Mark Gatiss Jodie Whittaker Patrick Troughton Matt Smith William Hartnell/b]

I'm stumped for an idea. I'll post something eventually. Meanwhile, FREE POST if anyone just wants to post something.

Well, it's not normally something that comes up. However, when there's something that could be an error in the show or movie, I try to think of reasons it could be "true" for the show or movie, and Mrs Wolf does the same. It normally leads to pretty mundane explanations. We agree that "Big Bang Theory" and "Young Sheldon" both filter Sheldon's past through his memory. When he recounts what happened in BBT, he's often far off, but that's how he remembers it. (He remembered his house being an RV trailer somehow, while his Dad was alive- but we see he grew up in a nice house in "Young Sheldon." His internal narration is as error-ridden as anything else when determining what happened in "Young Sheldon." Rarely, we come up with something cool.

You may have read "Frankenstein" in school. Although Mary Shelley was English, Victor Frankenstein was Swiss/ Italian and "the monster" doesn't really have a nationality. This round is UNARGUABLY a British character. And has not been around nearly as long as Frankenstein (nor Holmes, for that matter.)

Anne Bancroft and Buck Henry were connected to Mel Brooks. "The TWELVE CHAIRS?????"

Ah, Lumley didn't play a man. :) (It can be argued she didn't play a woman, either.) This role is not Shakespeare, nor Shakepearean (no Marlowe, no Chaucer, etc.) It's not anything you would have been assigned to read in school. I'm sure you'll figure out the right answer as soon as you figure out the right question.

Complete subject change, but I didn't want to start a new thread, since this is a limited topic for discussion. Mrs Wolf and I were watching the first "Addams Family" movie (1991), and we got to discussing the Addamsverse (of the movie.) We both came up with some interesting ideas that fit what we observed. I feel they make those movies more rich and add to their setting. So, here's what we said. I asked about Tully Alport, Gomez' attorney (played by Dan Hedaya.) Gomez is his last paying customer. Mrs W talked about the gathering of the clan to celebrate "Fester"s return. She speculated that the entire family is a sort-of clan, with different families under it. With Gomez (or Fester) in charge, it's the Addams, but it could just as easily be the Amor clan if Flora and/or Fauna was the titular head. We see lots of people, some of whom have the same last name (Lumpy Addams), and some who do not (Flora Amor, Fauna Amor), and most we don't know either way, but they dress in a variety of styles. I speculate that the band was not part of the family, but a band that gets hired BY the family, so is recognized by them as willing to show up and play. (Sort of how gypsies in the US tend to work with specific non-gypsies who will work with them, like Sondra Chely the dressmaker who makes all the big event gypsy dresses in the US, apparently.) Any way, we have a varied family, and people who are willing to work for them, to some degree. (I assume Cousin It's car is a custom job....) As for the rest, there's family closer to the Addams we know, and family further away. They're all part of the family. Ok, now to her point. She thinks that BOTH Tully and his wife are part of the family. They're distant relatives who can TRY to blend into society and ignore the clan, but they don't for their own reasons. Tully and Margaret ended up together, and MAY have ended up together because they each found someone who was also part of the clan, but could pass for regular and didn't want to just be an Addams. So, they tried to just be normal, perhaps. The thing is, Tully, for reasons of his own, doesn't mesh well with the general population. He's dishonest and has driven off his other customers. We don't think Gomez hired him simply out of stupidity. Tully was hired because he's family and he was available. He understands both regular society- and the law and investments- and can fit into the clan. Tully and Margaret don't act like the normal public when confronted with clan behavior. Tully is fine with Gomez allegedly trying to spear him with a rapier, then dueling as soon as he walks into Gomez' study. He argues with "Gate" bur doesn't tell the Addams' to make it settle down. Margaret, upon meeting with the whole clan, does NOT run off screaming or anything- and there were plenty of reasons for her to do that like in the old show when neighbors visited. She reacted to supposedly tearing off Grandma's hand, and I forget if she tried to break into the vault and the plants got her, or if that was "Dr Binderschloss." However, upon meeting Cousin It, she didn't freak out, and she ended up chatting with him. Most shockingly, she has NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER UNDERSTANDING HIM. THAT is highly unusual. She was willing to date Cousin It. And marry, and have a kid. The most reasonable explanation was that she WAS part of the family. She thought Tully was the only male there she could accept, which is why SHE asked HIM. ("Why did I marry you?" "Because I said 'yes'.") Ok, I think Tully and Margaret make a LOT more sense that way. As for where the Addams fortune comes from, I think it has to do with who they are. (This was my big idea.) I think the Addams' are related to CHARON, the Boatman of the Underworld, or HADES its ruler, or possibly both. Because treasure comes from underground, Hades is seen as really rich (aka Pluto, who lends his name to words like "plutocracy", government by the rich.) Charon himself collects money from his passengers, and it adds up. Decades ago, I read a book where someone wondered what he did with all his money. Either would explain where the huge treasure vault of treasure came from that Gomez uses. I got to thinking about this when thinking about how he gets to the vault. He goes through a passageway. He takes a slide under his house. It goes a LONG way, and ends up at a river, with a riverboat to pole along. The distance DOWN doesn't make sense. However, if he passed "down" into some sort of netherworld, then all the "down" could be THERE rather than LITERALLY under the house. The end of the chute is at a dock with a heavy, heavy mist, with a boat like Charon's docked there for Gomez. Gomez comments how the air there- out in the open and at the shore- is "like a tomb." So, a connection to Charon or Hades would explain the passage as well as the wealth. It would help explain what makes them a "family" by some standard- as descendants of Charon or Hades. It would help explain some of their abilities. (Even Tully can survive being turned upside down and held up by his neck. Fester once claimed he opened his brother's skull as a kid and took out his brain. The Mamushka and Gomez and Morticia's dance in the 2nd movie showed Fester and Morticia, in particular, displaying rare abilities in the dance.) I think that's the basis for the family. I think they'd consider adding people by marriage or whatever, as long as they truly fit in. In the 2nd movie, Morticia sounded like she was ready to accept Debbie as a family member- except for her fashion sense. When Debbie made Fester cut himself off from the Addams, Morticia spoke to her. "You've ensnared Fester in some sort of sexual spell. I respect that. But Debbie.... PASTELS????" Even at the end, they sounded comfortable with her, all the way to their "Goodbye". We felt a little bad for Debbie that they were so ready to accept her, but she couldn't see past her own plans. They were even comfortable with serial killers in the family- if the tour of the family graveyard was any indication. Ok, fine. We took this a LOT more seriously than we're supposed to. I think it added a great deal to our enjoyment of both movies. And for the record, I think Mrs Wolf and I would get along with both that movie version and the version from the classic TV show- but like the movie ones better.

John Hurt Richard Hurndall Michael Jayston Geoffrey Hughes Toby Jones Peter Cushing Jim Broadbent Hugh Grant Rowan Atkinson Paul Mc Gann Richard E. Grant Joanna Lumley Sylvester Mc Coy Colin Baker Peter Davison