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Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier Bernard Cribbins Michael Beatie Leonard Nimoy once sang a ballad about this character.
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B) The alleged promise was a lie. Supposedly, God Almighty promised He would teach like it hadn't been known since the 1st century AD. If this were true, there would be a complete disconnect with what was being taught and known elsewhere in 1942 EVERYWHERE and what vpw later taught (because we know he taught others.) However, even those who idolize vpw agree that the material he taught was already taught by others. A paper trail can be traced for virtually all the twi material vpw taught. vpw took Leonard's class, and a few months later, taught 100% of the same material. vpw bought Stiles' book, then typed up a book with the contents- later adding the contents of books by Bullinger to flesh it out more. And so on. So, either God Almighty lied when giving this promise, someone else claiming to be God lied and vpw couldn't tell the difference between a lying spirit and God Almighty, or vpw lied and nobody promised him at all. C) The alleged promise was based on ignorance. twi's system shares a trait with the Mikean system- they're both Gnostic systems based on secret knowledge. The twi system-which was vpw's system, set up by him and used by him all the time- was that study of the verses was the key to God (plus the "Law of Believing"),. So, the more you study the verses, the more "godly" you can become, especially if you study it the twi way. We've all seen far too many horror stories of twi "masters" who partly memorized vpw/twi materials and were bigger schmucks if anything. Geer spent hours going over vpw's teachings in between drugging women for vpw to rape and preparing to throw himself over vpw as a human shield if anyone tried to shoot him. But, let's expose the IGNORANCE in the alleged "promise." How DID the 1st century Christian church know God's Word? They knew the Torah/Old Testament. They knew the SPOKEN word, They knew The Word BY EXPERIENCE AND POWER. Think about it. They were getting converts left and right while being a disciple was ILLEGAL and punished by imprisonment, murder, or both. They got LOTS of converts with that going on. No amount of charismatic demagoguery can make up for the risk of being killed or imprisoned. You might get a few disaffected outsiders. Saul of Tarsus joined them - a former persecutor and murderer of Christians (he didn't put his hand on the knife, but he ordered it done.) Did the Greeks hear good speeches then run out and conclude that their gods walked among them and prepared to offer blood sacrifices? They SAW something. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. However, provide the extraordinary proof, and the claims stop looking extraordinary-at least in comparison to the proof. The 1st century Christians preached-but were known because they had power and could deliver where they spoke. Lots of people preached and didn't get significant converts. Theirs was a pragmatic, direct, power-based ministry. twi was never that. They were study-based, and TALKED ABOUT power lots of times, then considered "Kojacking" a significant witness of "power." 1st century Christians were never centrally-controlled nor organized. twi bore no resemblance to 1st century Christianity except where twi CLAIMED they did. But all the claims don't mean reality matches a claim. The 1st century Christians probably didn't have access to the entire New Testament ANYWHERE. All documents had to be hand-copied. With no printing press and no scanners and PDFs, that was a laborious process and few copies circulated for the 1st century AD (certainly relative to now.) So, twi has NEVER had "The Word as it was known in the 1st Century." because vpw NEVER had "The Word as it was known in the 1st Century." vpw might have known that when he phrased the promise he was supposedly given, but he skipped over "Church history". So, he was likely to make such a mistake where God Almighty would not. vpw made up the alleged 1942 promise. and it's easy to show all the errors. There was no such promise. There's no real, sensible reason to laud vpw or "his" books. They don't comrpise "revelation."
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Every now and again, someone still claims that pfal and twi were special. Their reason for this is the claim that vpw was special. Their reason for this is the 1942 promise. vpw claimed he received a promise from God Almighty in 1942, and he used this claim to justify thinking of "his" books and classes to akin to the Bible itself. The supposition that pfal was of significant long-term benefit hangs primarily on the alleged "1942 promise." That promise, as stated by vpw, was that God spoke audibly to vpw, and promised that God Almighty would teach vpw God's Word ;like it hadn't been known since the first century (AD) if vpw would teach it to others. vpw supposedly asked God to confirm this by a miraculous snowstorm. All right, how many ways can we show this 1942 promise failed? We've done it lots of times before, this is mostly compilation. A) The miraculous snowstorm never happened. There was NO report of actual snow anywhere near where this allegedly happened. When it supposedly happened, he didn't even tell his own wife it happened. Come on, that would have been the first words out of any spouse's mouth that evening. ("Honey, you'll never believe what happened to me today...") He never claimed it until decades later. He couldn't keep the details of the miraculous event straight, even. When he first began making this claim, he said the sky looked BLACK with all the heavy snow. This, BTW, isn't what it looks like for even the heaviest snow. Later-probably because he learned that doesn't happen- he switched to saying the sky was WHITE with snow. I'm sure details can get lost over time, but if a miraculous event that turns the sky all one color, you'd at least remember the color. Finally, this wasn't the only time vpw claimed a miraculous snowstorm. In fact, he did it whenever it was convenient. When he added special significance to the minister's conference where he met Stiles, vpw claimed that the entire city was snowed in completely. He was unable to get out because planes, trains and buses were all stopped due to heavy snow conditions, a blizzard. This was a rather big lie, and one that was checkable. When someone spoke to him about it, he didn't say "I was there and saw the snow and walked in it, check again", he immediately switched his story to prevent trying to contradict the weather report. He immediately began claiming the snow was an angelic apparition- angels made him see snow that wasn't there, and when he phoned transit places, angels answered the phone and lied to him. (He would rather have us think angels lied than that he lied.) In reality, not even a single FLAKE fell from the sky in that city that day, and the temperature didn't reach freezing. This wasn't the last time vpw made up a convenient snowstorm, even. A poster here once noted that vpw was supposed to visit their area. Instead, he phoned and said that he WANTED to fly there, but he was located at a bad snowstorm and he was told it was unsafe. The poster checked the weather in vpw's area at the time, and there was neither snow nor storms predicted. So, the entire snow part was a lie. Without that, there's no 1942 promise. However, even if it was possible for there to have been a snowstorm (it's not possible), the other problems with his story would be enough to discredit it. There WAS no 1942 promise. vpw was NEVER some great one. pfal was NEVER some great class nor great study materials. It was all built up as a con-and not the most secure con, either. It needed lots of outside help to prop it up.
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Ok, name the role..... Felix Felton Paul Daneman Orson Bean Nicol Williamson Norman Bird John Le Mesurier
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Buddy Holly, Ben Hur, Space Monkey, Mafia..... "WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE." It's a comforting thought that there were hard times before we got here, and there will be hard times after us, and that's part of life. This whole "it's worse than it's ever been" thing lacks perspective. (The other month I told Wordpup how the current concerns were a LOT less dangerous than the Spanish Flu about 100 years ago. Also told him to pay attention to what's going on and how he feels. He's living through future history, and his grandkids may ask him what it was like to live through this.)
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Correct! But at the beginning of the sequel, the ghost activity had died down (no pun intended.) So, the guys were doing other jobs. Ray and Winston were dressing in their uniforms and doing children's parties. The kid wanted He-Man and got the Ghostbusters instead. They began a dance number to the theme song, and sang along. When they got to " Who you gonna call?" the kids shouted "HE-MAN!!!!" I saw a setup and I felt the urge to go for it. Meanwhile, it's your turn.
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HE-MAN!!!!!!
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One man esteemeth one day above another
WordWolf replied to Waxit's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Hey- sneering at us is part of his being part of another group. To be a part of the other "us", he needs "them" to look down on- which includes us. So, he'll continue to spin it that it was an honor to have been refuted here- and that he was never refuted here, and so on. But the whole "those who disagree with us don't want to know the truth" is CLASSIC cult talk. It's such a telltale sign of being in one, and I've heard it a number of times over the years. -
Some people get wiser as they get older. Some just seem to get older. Although, I think they get a little wiser, but they're so unwise overall that it doesn't appear like they gained ANY wisdom since they were still unwise afterwards. Even those I know who are clumsy with tech know how to get in touch with their families.
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Perhaps he didn't MEAN to pull his leg. cg claimed he was ready to act as a human shield in case someone attempted to assassinate vpw. I think he really thought this was something he needed to do. Perhaps he convinced himself of that, and added some sordid past to his head where he was a drug runner before encountering vpw or something. I remember him once commenting on how some people seemed to compete with how much they were delivered from when they got born again. I've never heard of people doing that otherwise- perhaps cg was doing it and that's why it was on his mind.
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William Atherton Ernie Hudson Annie Potts
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It wasn't that long ago that mailing was the best way to have lengthy communications with someone in another country. Then it was email and then instant messaging. I remember celebrating on New Years Eve with 2 households, with a videocamera that had no sound, and typing quickly to communicate, or using visuals (like raising a toast.) Then IM services had added video chat, and Skype came along, and the past month or so Zoom was catapulted into center stage (plus WhatsApp and Facetime are around, too.) I'm quite comfortable video-chatting with family and friends. I know some kids are using Discord for audio-only groups, but I haven't gotten around to that. Still, with a good connection for audio and video, you can interact quite a bit with loved ones in a way you couldn't do (or at least I couldn't do) until the beginning of the 21st century (or end of the 20th for the early adopters who were ahead of me.) In that regard, things have really changed for the better. There's a certain irony that some of the elderly could GREATLY benefit from regular use of Skype, Zoom, WhatsApp, and quite often they're very reluctant to try them, as if they're radioactive or something.
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Paul Rodriguez said the same thing. "What's wrong with Gilligan AND the Skipper? Why's nobody gotten it on with Mary Ann yet?" He speculated trying to overpopulate the island. "Yeah, Mary Ann! Yeah Ginger!....Bring Mrs Howell too, while we're at it..."
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Uh, Dan Ackroyd????
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Actually, there's TWO bands, both with the same name. One's a local band, the other's from Germany, apparently. https://wcfcourier.com/features/lifestyles/local-band-goes-from-hard-rock-to-living-room-mellow/article_fdaba513-33e5-5001-ada9-75c05c627e8b.html https://www.majorhealey.de/ The show was done by Sidney Sheldon, and was called "I Dream of Jeannie." Andrew Dice Clay wondered what was wrong with Major Nelson that he never wanted her to do anything. He had his own ideas of what to do if you owned a female genie. "I want you to make your tongue about 10 feet long..."
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Heath Ledger and Shannyn Sossamon were together in "A Knight's Tale" and "The Order." She played alongside Josh Hartnett in "40 Days and 40 Nights," and alongside James Van Der Beek in "the Rules of Attraction." Then she was in some more obscure stuff, apparently. Paul Bettany I remember FROM this movie. I know he played JARVIS and The Vision, but it's hard to recognize him from them.
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There was a garage band with the name of one of the non-title characters, if you can believe that.
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One man esteemeth one day above another
WordWolf replied to Waxit's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
It is rather comforting to think one has "arrived at The Truth." -
Paul Bettany played Geoffrey Chaucer. Heath Ledger played the title role, SS played Jocelyn, the female lead. Alan Tudyk played a squire to the knight at the beginning (and the title character afterwards.)
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You are correct!
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Alan Tudyk Shannyn Sossamon Paul Bettany Heath Ledger
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No. *checks* Alan Tudyk was in that one, but not the others.
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So long as I allow a few minutes for the cloud to disperse before putting it on. Otherwise, I end up huffing Lysol fumes and skipping oxygen and stuff!
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So it's George's turn...
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One man esteemeth one day above another
WordWolf replied to Waxit's topic in Doctrinal: Exploring the Bible
Oh, and Waxit's source for he cut-and-paste on the Noahide Laws was from here: http://www.ccg.org/weblibs/study-papers/p148.html?craw=y http://www.ccg.org/english/S/a1.html Hm. Looks like Waxit's entire POV reads like this group's website, especially their Statement of Beliefs.. including judging us in keeping of New Moons and Sabbaths, and in respect of holy days.