WordWolf

I read that first piece of trivia somewhere, sometime. Is this "That 70s Show?"

Um, "Kingsman- the Secret Service"?

This reminds me of the Brian Setzer Orchestra's "Rumble in Brighton". I don't think it's the answer, but that's what it reminds me of.

That's it.

I recognized "Our House" from the chorus there, but never knew it was CSN. I'm not bad at some 70s tunes, but I'm best with 80s tunes. From the 90s, there's a number I can recognize, but after 2000, very little. With 60s tunes, I may know a few. It's mostly in what got classic rock airplay in the decades following.

"If you can't do it with one bullet, don't do it at all." "What is it?" "The sound of treachery." "What are you?" "I'm complicated." "We'll be at this all day." "You're sweet... and you're young. Neither are traits that I hold in high regard." "You scratched me!" "Better me than him!" "You have all the time in the world." "I've lived long enough to see the future become history, Professor. Empires crumble. There are no exceptions." "Eyes open, Boy. I can't protect you all the time." "Trouble? I call it 'sport.'" "Where is your sense of patriotism?" "God save the Queen." "God save her." "That's about as patriotic as it gets around here." "Draw your pistol." " I walk a different path." "Let's not make a saint out of a sinner. Next time he may not be so helpful." "And they'll provide an antidote... well, that's if I'm a good boy." "And are you a good boy?" "I guess you'll find out, won't you?" "A world war." "And this notion makes you sweat?" "Heavens, man. Doesn't it you?" "This is Africa, dear boy. Sweating is what we do." "Would you like to learn to shoot?" "I can already." "I saw. Very American. Fire enough bullets and hope to hit the target.”

BTW, those quotes are neither random nor nondescript. I could have gotten the movie from most of them if they were the only quote.

We either need another image from the same movie, or a clue, or something.

No. This movie mentioned the UK, but does not take place there- at least, not exclusively and is remembered more for other locations than the UK. I'm sure you saw this movie, even though the reviews were weak, AFAIK. I thought it was fun enough.

"If you can't do it with one bullet, don't do it at all." "What is it?" "The sound of treachery." "What are you?" "I'm complicated." "We'll be at this all day." "Empires crumble. There are no exceptions." "You're sweet... and you're young. Neither are traits that I hold in high regard." "You scratched me!" "Better me than him!" "You have all the time in the world." "I've lived long enough to see the future become history, Professor." "Eyes open, Boy. I can't protect you all the time." "Trouble? I call it 'sport.'" "Where is your sense of patriotism?" "God save the Queen." "God save her." "That's about as patriotic as it gets around here." "Draw your pistol." " I walk a different path."

I can see how you'd get that from these specific quotes, but no.

"If you can't do it with one bullet, don't do it at all." "What is it?" "The sound of treachery." "What are you?" "I'm complicated." "We'll be at this all day." "Empires crumble. There are no exceptions." "You're sweet... and you're young. Neither are traits that I hold in high regard." "You scratched me!" "Better me than him!" "You have all the time in the world." "I've lived long enough to see the future become history, Professor." "Eyes open, Boy. I can't protect you all the time." "Trouble? I call it 'sport.'"

-The production company for this US film was a HONG KONG company- Golden Harvest. That explains some of the cast but causes another wrinkle in the casting at the same time. -One role was written specifically with DON RICKLES in mind, but he refused the role, and we got a better movie for it once it was recast (with the same name.) -George Furth and John Fiedler both appear in this movie. (I used to confuse the 2 actors because of this.) -Peter Fonda appears in it as well. And Valerie Perrine. And Bianca Jagger. -Steve McQueen was cast, but died before they prepared to begin filming, so that part was re-cast and the mood of the movie was changed radically. -In one scene, a Cantonese-speaking character is interviewed by a Japanese television presenter. Neither the presenter nor the audience understand what he's saying, but the other Cantonese-speaker in the movie and he chat several times, in Cantonese. -One actor spoke about having done the movie, later. "I did that film for all the wrong reasons. I never liked it. I did it to help out a friend of mine, Hal Needham. And I also felt it was immoral to turn down that kind of money. I suppose I sold out so I couldn't really object to what people wrote about me." -This was the first movie the late Rick Aviles appeared in (you may remember him as Willie Lopez in "Ghost.") -Nobody remembers the name of the character Pamela Glover-she ends up with a nickname early on, and that "becomes" her name for the rest of the movie. -Continuity error: the "Hawaiian Tropic" car changes from a Laguna to a Monte Carlo after a quick paint job. -Continuity error: Jamie Black and Fenderbaum know Mc Clure and Prinzim early on. However, in the middle of the movie, Mc Clure and Prinzim completely fail to recognize them.

Michael Keaton BeetleJuice Winona Ryder

In the style of old-school acrobats or bodybuilders? That suggests one role above all others, the guy with the spit-curl. Ok, that narrows it down a LOT. I was all set to jump on the Routh one, but the first clue shouts this was a Christopher Reeve movie. That set of movies ended with "Superman 4-the Quest for Peace." (The first Superman movie I DIDN'T see in the theater, IIRC.) Hey, Jon Cryer was in that movie as Lex Luthor's nephew or something. Small world to see Cryer play LL decades later, no?

A) I was buying a little time for everyone else. B) I mentioned the music, hoping to spark someone's memory. C) After that, I was just messing around and having some fun. After all, if it actually HAD been a SW movie, it would have had to include both of those guys. That MIGHT sound like some scenes in "Solo." (I actually haven't seen that one, either. Amazing how many movies are identifiable even if we've only seen commercials or previews, isn't it?)

As for why I didn't mention the GL movie by name, I was hoping someone new would know the answer and jump in. Sometimes, one of us knows the answer and alludes to it without saying it, so someone else has a chance. (Very rarely, I do that and realize I wasn't even close to the right answer....) So, I was hoping you'd name the movie. Since you didn't, I did, then handed my turn over to you so it was your turn fair and square.

This HAD TO be from Star Wars, because I remember the musical score playing at this moment. But which one? We have a black and a white guy, I'm going with "SOLO."

That's Hector Hammond, a villain who fights GREEN LANTERN. I yield my turn to T-Bone. NOW we can answer his post. :)

Uh, you're supposed to answer the current turn FIRST.

https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/24969-twi-memories-good-bad-and-indifferent/page/5/?tab=comments#comment-606515 We discussed some of this here. With links to other threads. Page 5 of "TWI memories- good, bad and indifferent."

This question came up on another thread, and I didn't want it to get lost. I'm hoping to get some thoughts on this one. Here's what we know..... vpw got static for his India trip from his denomination. He made it independently of anything they said, and they made it crystal clear he was not representing them and was doing this entirely on his own. vpw CLAIMED he was the first such minister who'd ever taken his ENTIRE family on such a trip (although baby JP was left with his grandparents for all the months of the trip.) vpw CLAIMED that the majority of his access was the result of a miraculous healing- an account we all heard in pfal. Supposedly, vpw was hanging off the back of a train when it was about to move. A local asked for healing but was specific he didn't believe in Jesus. vpw supposedly did a miracle that transformed his arm instantly as the train began pulling away. It makes no sense in physics, and is cinematic. Supposedly, on the same train was some Indian notable who represented some other notable. The one on the train saw the "miracle" and that's why he got the second notable to open the doors in India to vpw. Mrs W's account was rather specific. Dr I.S. Williams opened all the doors for vpw, and she said nothing about such a miraculous healing. As vpw went around the country, he swallowed the line Williams was spouting, and repeated it back- which some locals wanted to hear. In other words, Williams USED vpw to advance his own agenda, and vpw lacked the wit to see through it. This carried on all the way through vpw speaking on "The Dilemna of Foreign Missions"- which became a book when someone transcribed hs speech. Ok, Williams stroked his ego, and that's enough reason for vpw to appear. Williams offered "secret" (behind-the-scenes) knowledge- and vpw ALWAYS ate that up no matter how ridiculous it was. That's enough for why vpw showed up. Why in the world did vpw drag his FAMILY across India to all these stops? Does anyone have any thoughts?

Would you believe I still haven't seen this movie? Still haven't seen a good review of it, either... Makes for an interesting bad guy, though.

Hm. Not sure about this one. However, it might be a reference to the 2nd of 2 James Bond movies not made by the usual production company. If so, it was the last JB movie Sean Connery did, and it was called "NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN."

That's a good question, and an original question. So I did a little digging. Here's what we have: The thread "VP's visit to India" discusses this. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/23050-vps-visit-to-india/page/2/ "When wierwille went to India......he was propped in front of church groups, the Hindu convention, dignitaries by Dr. I.S. Williams. It was Williams who OPENED all the doors for wierwille to speak. And, when wierwille left India he "designated" Williams to continue to oversee his (vp's) work.....of which, Williams did NOT accept." "Most likely williams opened doors for vpw so that he could use vp as his puppet. They could show off an American who was spouting the same anti-colonial line many Indians were using. VP was getting fed a line and used and didn't know it. I'm sure it stroked his ego to be the lone voice of "truth" over "tradition." " "I got hold of a copy of Dilemma of Foreign Missions in India shortly after I disassociated from TWI in 1986/'87, and was horrified to see how closely the Corps training duplicated the practices Wierwille decried in Dilemma." "Like Dilemma, most of VP's "books" were transcribed sermons he gave, a method which captured his sloppy, extreme, offhanded, and inaccurate manner." "There were some incidents concerning vpw's visit to India that we've discussed before. There's what vpw SAID, and what HAPPENED. For example, vpw said something about there never before having been a minister who traveled there with his whole family- saying he was the first. Supposing there were none before him, he wasn't the first because he left his youngest son separated from his entire nuclear family for several months when he was tiny. vpw also claimed he had entre to all sorts of things there. This is true. His host, Dr Williams, had entre and walked vpw through everything. vpw responded by swallowing Williams' line of talk about missionaries- which vpw later spoke on and had someone transcribe into "his book" "The Dilemna of Foreign Missions." vpw claimed that his entre into things all over India was the result of some miraculous healing he performed. The truth is that Dr Williams opened all the doors- as Mrs W's account clearly stated in her book. vpw told us all that it was all because he supposedly was standing on the back of a train as it was preparing to pull out, and there was a man with a withered arm there, who was not a Christian. He asked the man if he wanted vpw to pray for him and if he believed he would be healed if vpw prayed for him. The man supposedly replied 'yes' to both, but was clear he did not believe in Jesus. vpw supposedly prayed and the man received a miracle of healing, his arm suddenly becoming whole and strong in a few seconds, just as the train was pulling out. Supposedly, vpw was shouting to him about him receiving his healing in the name of Jesus. Then someone came up to vpw on the train, said he was representing some official who saw the entire incident that happened back there, and was responding to such a healing, gave him the keys to his city, and said the doors to "the East" would always be open to him as a result. Mrs W's account of the train incident said he was asked to perform a special blessing for the people there, Christian and non, and he prayed publickly. Then a man came up on the train and said he represented an official who saw the prayer, and was impressed a Christian minister would pray for non-Christians. Later, Dr Williams arranged for vpw to get a key to a city and speak at the convention. Mrs W's account skips this entire supposed miracle. No surprise, since a poster who knew her and saw her notes said there was no such miracle in her notes of the time. The entire supposed incident was ridiculous, and cinematic. vpw supposedly is on the back of a train, and is permitted to hang off the back as it's prepared to move, and a crowd is allowed to surround the back of the train. As the train begins to pull out, vpw is in physical contact with someone on the ground, and the train is beginning regardless. Furthermore, he's with NO support, standing at the back of a train, bent over the back as it's moving, and he is immune to the laws of inertia and general physics because he's shouting slogans rather than struggling to stay onboard a train. So he obviously lied about what happened, and Mrs W refused to include that lie in her notes and in her book. An interesting side-note is that one poster who knew her claimed she pointed to a man in photos and said that was the man- but there's no such account in her notes and her OFFICIAL accout of what happened skipped over it. Does that mean she told ONE person the truth, and hid the truth from the rest-who wanted to believe it? Or did she lie to one person and tell the truth to everyone else even though it would have been easier to just give the lie they expected? I think we all would draw the same conclusions." Some threads that discussed related points: https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/16710-wierwilles-stories-in-pfal/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/13609-the-indian-that-was-healed-on-the-train-by-vp/ https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/21689-keys-to-the-city/ "Wierwille's stories in pfal." "The Indiand that was healed on the train by vp." "Keys to the city." =============================== We get that vpw dragged his family along- except for JP- to India for months. We get that his denomination seemed to be against it, and made it clear he was not being sent as a spokesperson who could speak for them. But why was he so insistent on going? Looking at it right now, it looks like Mr "I want to be special and have special knowledge" got played by Dw Williams and those who played ball with him. vpw wasn't very intelligent. If they were playing him and offering secret knowledge and entre, he would go along. (He's not the only one- it's been said that, if you put a velvet rope in front of a toilet, people would begin lining up for it. ) That's why HE went. Why was it so important to bring his family? I have NO idea. Anyone got anything?