WordWolf

"VPW is DEAD! 37 yrs and counting. I believe he had a one of a kind ministry. Back in 1980 or so, the coordinator of the music group I was in said that VP was the 7th "THE man of God" and that this was very significant. I never heard that same message from anybody else and I'm not sure what it even means, but I do believe that VPs combination of gift ministries was unique, not cookie cutter. Nobody has duplicated the respect and impact he got from his people." Ok, leaving aside the usual delusions about how vpw motivated "his" people, and how he used showmanship to INSINUATE he was getting Revelation all the time, and plagiarized his way through other people's writings and conspiracy theory hotlines and make it sound like he was getting that all by Revelation, and his rephrasing of the definitions of all the "gift ministries" so that he could INSINUATE he had them all when he had none of them, leaving those aside...... What's this business about "vpw was the 7th THE man of God"? Who, supposedly, were the other 6, and what did this reference even mean? Someone once claimed that exactly 3 people in history ever faced the devil directly- Jesus Christ, Paul and vpw. Where does this stuff even COME FROM? No, seriously, I'm asking because I want to know. Anybody?

"Now if you have a taste for this experience And you're flushed with your very first success, Then you must try a twosome or a threesome And you'll find your conscience bothers you much less." "Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious In history's great dark hall of fame. All our greatest killers were industrious At least the ones that we all know by name."

I'm a little annoyed that my previous TWO posts got eaten, with one actually displaying here before it vanished. One more try, from memory. -This film had several scenes filmed in Arizona, despite most clearly NOT being set there. -One character's middle name was "Stanley", but this didn't effect the story. He obviously never graduated from law school, no matter what he said or implied. -That same character was never INTENTIONALLY named after anyone referred to as "the 5th Beatle." -One of the actors was once worried he'd only ever be remembered for his role in this movie. He's not primarily remembered for this movie. A different actor is primarily remembered for this movie. -One of the actors gets mail from teachers. Some of the letters are positive, and some are negative, and they're divided primarily by which subject the teacher teaches (English teachers sent him angry letters.) -This movie has had 2 sequels and 1 cartoon. The sequels contradict each other. -One of the writers was Ed Solomon. He snuck his name into the first sequel. -The first sequel's bad guy was a former gym teacher. (I forget if he was a former champ at sit-ups or push-ups.) He was scared of certain things happening, and then ended up setting the stage for them to happen. -The first sequel included the band Primus, and included the lead singer from Faith No More. It also included Clarence Clemons, but he wasn't as obvious as the others. -The first sequel included a scene at Vasquez Rock. Star Trek fans may recognize it, it was used in the original series more than a little.

Ok, that actually tells me a lot. ONE name will be a dead giveaway. I'm thinking I read one of these names as the credits for the "DC Super Hero Girls" cartoon flashed by at the end. But most of those characters have not appeared elsewhere, or rarely did so (Bumblebee, Zatanna, the new GL.) A few have appeared a number of places (Wonder Woman, Batgirl, Supergirl), so there's more than one giveaway name for each (Gal Gadot and Linda Carter, Yvonne Craig and Alicia Silverstone, Helen Slater and Melissa Benoist.) It's not any of the male characters (so Aquaman is out, Hal Jordan is out, James Gordon is out.) I'm thinking all the hero girls are out. So, that leaves me with only 1 or 2 villain girls as a possibility. Taking George as accurate for one name actually being a real giveaway, I scratch off one character, and that leaves me with the character who replaced Duela Dent in the DC continuity. "HARLEY QUINN." Of course, if I'm wrong somewhere, I could be way off. But I think I'm down to the cast of that cartoon and eliminated most of them.

I have no idea if you're on the right track or not. I don't see where you're going with this one.

This has got to be an animated role with voice-actors. That's the most likely way to reconcile the first 3 with each other. Tara Strong and Arleen Sorkin sound familiar. I think I have this narrowed to a cartoon, but not to the character yet. (Otherwise, I don't think I'd recognize either name- one of them has got to be on this cartoon series.)

All I have so far is my amazement, and some puzzlement since they look different from each other. (Maybe a little impatience waiting for the next clue.)

Ok, next song. "Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious In history's great dark hall of fame. All our greatest killers were industrious At least the ones that we all know by name."

I always pictured that as "Salisbury". like the "steak." But Little Solsbury Hill, apparently, was where he was sitting when he got the idea for the song. *looks* He had quite a few albums. I liked 1-2 songs from several of them, but I liked about 1/2 the songs on "So." This song was from his self-titled solo album, "Peter Gabriel", aka "Car." *checks* No wonder I got so confused about what was on which album. I just had his Greatest Hits album.

Star Wars=The Empire Strikes Back Carrie Fisher The Blues Brothers

Yes. Actually, I'd forgotten the cartoon series until you brought it up. Since I've seen an episode, that says something about how special it was. Here I thought I might have been a bit too vague for a first round of clues.

I'm amazed at the idea that these 3 actresses played the same role.

People, people! John Wayne Gacy was a pillar of his community, and a member of the Jaycees. He went to children's hospitals dressed up as Pogo the clown and entertained children. This was obviously a man who benefited people in society and helped change their lives for the better. Why, then, do people insist on focusing on the 33 people he murdered, rather than on the hundreds or thousands of lives he elevated? Is it an insistence on dwelling on evil that motivates them? They could just forget about his imperfections- after all, none of us are perfect. In Gacy's case, they were so fixated on his little slips that he was sentenced to death by lethal injection. As Christians, shouldn't we have just forgiven him and let him go his merry way? Think of all the other people whose lives will never be cheered by Pogo the clown! Surely there's something wrong with us if we can't just forgive someone for his little slips. After all, it's been some years, and Gacy's moments of oops are still being discussed. Aren't we supposed to forget and stop talking about them? And, if you were related to any of those 33 people, this still applies to you. An unhealthy obsession with Gacy's flaws doesn't reflect well on you. Surely God would want you to turn the other cheek, put it entirely behind you, get on with your life, and never mention it again. https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/john-wayne-gacy

I posted this in response to the initial post in this thread. I wonder if John even noticed it. I thought he might find it useful, particularly since I addressed his specific points.

Next movie. -This film had several scenes filmed in Arizona, despite most clearly NOT being set there. -One character's middle name was "Stanley", but this didn't effect the story. Likewise, another character obviously never graduated from law school, no matter what he said or implied. -None of the characters were INTENTIONALLY named after anyone referred to as "the 5th Beatle." -One of the actors was once worried he'd only ever be remembered for his role in this movie. He's not primarily remembered for this movie. A different actor is primarily remembered for this movie. -One of the actors gets mail from teachers. Some of the letters are positive, and some are negative, and they're divided primarily by which subject the teacher teaches. -This movie has had at least 1 sequel.

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I'm not going to go for the other obvious one this time. Cadillac Man Robin Williams Good Morning Vietnam

This might have been "The Pretender."

Saying it's a "favorite" is a bit of a stretch, but I do like the song and the artist. "Salisbury Hill," by 'Peter Gabriel. I think that one's off the album "So" , but I'm not certain of that. I've liked a number of his songs that I think were on that album.

Oh, right. In that case.... Remo Williams- the Adventure Begins Fred Ward Naked Gun 33 1/3 -The Final Insult

The Eastern Orthodox Church (including the Greek Orthodox Church) claims a history as old as the RCC, which claims a history back to the day of Pentecost. Just as churches formed in Western Europe and ended up looking towards Rome for leadership, there were churches that formed in Greece, and other countries, who ended up looking towards Byzantium/Constantinople for "leadership" (not in the absolute sense of the Pope.) So, Orthodoxy belongs to both the RCC and Eastern Orthodox Church, and the Greek Orthodox Church is part of the EOC. Although there were larger numbers of RCC than EOC, the Protestant Reformation split the West in a way the East was NOT split, and things have developed differently in both "high church" organizations (RCC and EOC.) So, technically, no, the EOC is not a sect, offshoot, or derivative of the RCC. They comprise a sibling that has developed alongside the RCC, and their name recognition in, say, the US has increased greatly over the last 50 years, where it had previously been almost unknown.

If he'd posted "orangutans are skeptical", I would have gotten "At The Zoo" immediately. ;) I don't know all the lyrics that well.

Right, but there's not a lot of big-name actors there, and the one I remember best for another movie was in that and Nemesis. BTW, if you read the books, Chiun doesn't think ALL Koreans are superior. If you let him ramble long enough, he keeps making exceptions until he's left out everyone outside his home village, and he goes on to eventually exclude everyone except HIMSELF.

Alexander Hislop wrote "THE Two Babylons." That was a long time ago, and was written to scholarly types, who were thought to be the only people who'd care about the contents. (That was a LONG time ago, and we've come a LONG way since then.) It's now in the public domain. (That was a long time ago.) Ralph Woodrow read Hislop's book. He attempted to make a book with similar content that was a lot more readable and user-friendly, using Hislop's book as a guide. RW EXTENSIVELY end-note ALL his references to Hislop's book. This did nothing to make the book less user-friendly, but completely refutes the claim that, if vpw had properly footnoted or end-noted his books, that it would have been a distraction or taken away from his books. (Most people reading RW's book weren't really aware of the end-noting unless looking for it, but it was very useful for anyone looking to follow up on the contents.) One problem was, Alexander Hislop's book was loaded with errors. That meant that RW's book was loaded with errors. RW got a lot of feedback, some of it with extensive documentation. You may notice that "Babylon-Mystery Religion" is out of print. RW chose, instead, to write a book addressing all the problems with Hislop's "The Two Babylons" and RW's "Babylon Mystery Religion" and called it "The Babylon Connection?" That should be in print now. "The Two Babylons" is a hard read even if it's in the public domain, because it was a product of its time. Authors writing at that time wrote EXCLUSIVELY to the grad students and PhDs, and not to the public. (On these subjects, at any rate- that's why they quote Latin and expect the readers to all know what they said.) "Babylon Mystery Religion" was a nice read for protestant Christians, especially those like vpw who had an axe to grind against the RCC (not necessarily an undeserved issue.) "The Babylon Connection"" probably isn't as popular because it's not fodder for fuel for flamewars, and nobody likes to consider their previous positions were wrong, their previous beliefs were wrong. Naturally, twi had nothing to do with any of those books except to carry them in their bookstore- they certainly didn't carry Woodrow's later book.

Hi. 1) Please remember not to get TOO specific in your posts. "I live in Billings, MT and have 3 children, ages...." Twi used to have people who read every single post here and tried to figure out who was posting who was still in twi and who they were. (We called those readers "the WayGB.") If you have something specific to say while you are in twi, you'll probably want to send a private message with it, not a public one. 2) You're welcome here, whether you're still in twi or not. You opinions and positions don't have to be a certain way, either. We've had posters who agreed with vpw or twi, posters who hated them, Christians of considerable variety, non-Christian posters of different religions, and agnostics and atheists. They're all welcome, as long as they behave themselves. (Not surprisingly, the ones who trumpet how fantastic vpw- the plagiarizing rapist- was, tend to be the rudest to everyone.) 3) There's been hundreds to thousands of threads, with hundreds of thousands of posts. We've covered a lot of ground in discussions, often with multiple threads discussing the same subject, if from different perspectives. You're welcome to read any and all of them. You're welcome to post. You're welcome to start new threads. And we have some threads with games on them if you'd just like to relax. They're in the "Movies, Music, Books, Art" forum. Read the first post of such a thread and the first page to get an idea of how they work before joining a game, please, each game has posted rules. (They're also on the honor system, and we trust each other not to cheat.) 4) Please enjoy your stay here.