WordWolf

"When I get to the bottom I go back to the top"

That's it, complete with the correct spelling. With the Star Wars character, his first name is an anagram of "liberte". His home planet is "Shinbone", the town where this movie takes place. (He was introduced solely as "Valance" and I thought it was a reference to electron shells.) According to Robert Wuhl, the Liberty Valance effect is when fiction becomes part of accepted history. He discussed it when he discussed why everyone knows Paul Revere's ride, but Israel Bissell rode a much longer distance the same night and almost nobody remembers him.

-"You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?" "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." -There's disagreement as to why this movie was filmed in black-and-white. This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. -In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie. You've probably never heard of the character, but fans seemed to like him, so he appeared in flashbacks a little more (he died in his first appearance.) He was from a planet named "Shinbone." His first name was "Beilert." (It's almost an anagram of the first name of the character who inspired him. I can't post the name because it's in the movie title.) -Allegedly, when Alfred Hitchcock was asked who the top 3 US directors were, he said the name of the director of this movie- 3 times in a row ("John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford.") -This movie did and didn't have a theme song. When Gene Pitney was getting ready to record the song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, he learned that the movie was already in theaters. It was a hit song. It also could not have been played in its entirety at the beginning of the movie, since it gave away the ending. -Most people wouldn't name this movie if asked to name a John Wayne movie. However, The Duke was in this movie. _Excerpts from reviews: "Long before Watergate-era cynicism about the media set in, we were told with a wink by perhaps the West's principal mythologist to be skeptical about everything we had been told." "With all the Ford requirements and the Ford mystique, including John Wayne and James Stewart off- setting each other's archetypal physiques, presences, worlds and implications; and Edmond O'Brien, at his uproariest." "Hence, contrary to expectations of realist films, this western stands out for how comprehensive a town and a world it manages to build around its central event." "There's much to say about it; the simplest is that it's both the most romantic of Westerns and the greatest American political movie." -According to "data", this movie made the top 50 best movies of all time. I must say, choosing to film a movie in black-and-white in 1962 is risky, but the director made it work for him.

"Johnny B Goode?"

Not that he's getting much successful results, but even dismal returns are better than stony silence and/or laughter, so he sticks to the twi/ex-twi crowds.

So, he advertised with them there just like he advertises with us here- since he hasn't been kicked out of either. His sole audience HAS TO consist of twi and ex-twi because nobody else will buy into "vpw was akin to Superman, had a special connection to God, and God Almighty told him to plagiarize a bunch of other Christian writers, for which we should be thankful. The results have replaced the Bible."

So, something related to the Founding Fathers.... No "Lin-Manuel Miranda", so not "Hamilton." Some of those names work for Ben Franklin, but others do not. So, maybe this is "THOMAS JEFFERSON." Let's go young instead of old.

-"You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?" "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." -There's disagreement as to why this movie was filmed in black-and-white. This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. -In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie. You've probably never heard of the character, but fans seemed to like him, so he appeared in flashbacks a little more (he died in his first appearance.) He was from a planet named "Shinbone." His first name was "Beilert." (It's almost an anagram of the first name of the character who inspired him. I can't post the name because it's in the movie title.) -Allegedly, when Alfred Hitchcock was asked who the top 3 US directors were, he said the name of the director of this movie- 3 times in a row ("John Ford, John Ford, and John Ford.") -This movie did and didn't have a theme song. When Gene Pitney was getting ready to record the song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, he learned that the movie was already in theaters. It was a hit song. It also could not have been played in its entirety at the beginning of the movie, since it gave away the ending. -Most people wouldn't name this movie if asked to name a John Wayne movie. However, The Duke was in this movie.

This is some list. Hans Conreid isn't known for almost anything, unless you're a Hans Conreid fan. Then you know he played Percy Livermore, Dan Jenkins (both "I Love Lucy" roles), Dr Terwilliger in that "Dr T and" something movie, and he did some voice work for animation like the Rankin-Bass "The Hobbit." Nick Nolte I remember for "48 Hours", Jeffrey Jones is most famous for Principal Rooney in "Ferris Buehler's Day Off", and "Daveed Diggs" sounds African-American from that name. Kevin Kline I remember best as Artemus Gordon in the remake of "Wild Wild West." (I almost confuse him for Kenneth Branagh, partly because they both were in that movie.) Charleton Heston is known for playing classic roles. It's possible all of these men, when starting out, went onstage or on TV or something and shared at least one classic role, like Shakespeare or the Bible or something. Taking all of that into account, my first guess will be "Moses", with Charleton Heston as the most famous actor in the role.

Maybe it was Hank Pym, um, "MICHAEL DOUGLAS????"

No.

I only know of a few Ray Stevens songs. Any chance this preceded a TV news report of "The Streak"???

Well, I'm stuck.

Mike, you didn't "make" any "points." You made a few CLAIMS. Anyone can make any CLAIM. It doesn't become a point until it's actually SUPPORTED BY SOMETHING. Especially ridiculous-sounding complaints should be supported by something substantial, otherwise they just sound like nonsense- and probably are. I've supported silly claims in the Harry Potter fandom better than you support your claims here- and I was doing so in jest. If you honestly think that "You think that a Christian has to be someone real special or something if they want to do significant work with and for God" applies to ANYONE here- let alone "many others here" as you said, you're really not experiencing the same posts and threads everyone else is- which is old news, really. You keep objecting to things that nobody ever posted. "Why should I waste my time on detailed, exhaustive debate with people who are unthankful for being taught that God is good?" You're fond of claiming you can get into discussions and address points, but have always had extensive excuses as to why you never delivered. BTW, it's hard to get people to agree that you have no problem with discussion and debate when they know that you've freely acknowledged that you choose to "dodge, distract, but never admit an error is an error" - and only doubled-down on that and claimed it's what you're supposed to do. As for people being "unthankful for being taught that God is good", there's probably a messageboard where people object to that, but this was never that board. "AND for showing everyone reading with a brain that you have NO IDEA how to address the points I made. " Mike, you of all posters really are ill-equipped to claim to speak for "everyone reading with a brain." pfal said right in pfal that it consists of KEYS, and it does NOT contain "Genesis to Revelation," but you claimed that it's Scripture now, and has REPLACED Genesis to Revelation rather than being keys to understanding them. Where pfal outlined HOW to "get back to the original so we can say 'thus saith the LORD'", you've claimed that doing so is impossible- while claiming that pfal was inerrant. So, trying to get converts from people who know your reading comprehension is seriously compromised by your doctrine is foredoomed to failure. Naturally, that doesn't matter much, because periodically you go away, announce in your own mind that you successfully refuted everything we had to say and that we were unable to refute you, and that your system is still unassailable. That may give you comfort (it wouldn't give me comfort), but it doesn't change how completely you've been refuted year after year, only to return and claim that never happened. Since the old threads are still here, "everyone reading with a brain" can go read through them themselves and see what happened.

-"You're not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?" "No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." -There's disagreement as to why this movie was filmed in black-and-white. This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. -In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie. You've probably never heard of the character, but fans seemed to like him, so he appeared in flashbacks a little more (he died in his first appearance.) He was from a planet named "Shinbone." His first name was "Beilert." -Allegedly, when Alfred Hitchcock was asked who the top 3 US directors were, he said the name of the director of this movie- 3 times in a row. -This movie did and didn't have a theme song. When Gene Pitney was getting ready to record the song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, he learned that the movie was already in theaters. It was a hit song. It also could not have been played in its entirety at the beginning of the movie, since it gave away the ending.

*thinks* This thing is off "Tommy." By any chance, is this "TOMMY" from the album of the same name?

I was trying much too hard to avoid posting the word "who" in that reply not to be doing it deliberately.

"Wop bop a loo bop a lop bom bom!"

Octopussy Mark Heap Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Don't forget that "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" was the Tim Burton film.)

-"When the story becomes fact, print the legend." This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. -In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie. You've probably never heard of the character, but fans seemed to like him, so he appeared in flashbacks a little more (he died in his first appearance.) He was from a planet named "Shinbone." -Allegedly, when Alfred Hitchcock was asked who the top 3 US directors were, he said the name of the director of this movie- 3 times in a row. -This movie did and didn't have a theme song. When Gene Pitney was getting ready to record the song by Burt Bacharach and Hal David, he learned that the movie was already in theaters. It was a hit song. It also could not have been played in its entirety at the beginning of the movie, since it gave away the ending.

This question would be better answered by those who were there. What I know is that they were with the House of Acts. That was a hippie movement of "Jesus freak" Christians. I'm under the impression that those were humble Christians of faith who were causing a stir in Haight Ashbury by being themselves. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/23755-the-jesus-hippie-movement/

twi didn't list the precise month and day that vpw entered Lakeland. However, it was likely no earlier than 1936, which was when Germany and Italy were aiding Generalissimo Francisco Franco in Spain. There was talk of "a second Great War" long before it was official (and before 1936.) If you want to avoid the draft by entering divinity school, you don't wait until war has officially begun. You register as soon as you see the smoke on the horizon. The US OFFICIALLY declared war after the attack on Pearl Harbor- Sunday, December 7, 1941. We'd been aiding the Allies for years before- sending trucks to the USSR and lots of freighters to the UK in lend-lease. Some citizens were even volunteers who joined the armies of the other Allied nations, long before 1941. I don't think that was his ENTIRE reason. He'd mentioned before that he'd considered careers in music, business and ministry. While he was considering these, rumors of an upcoming war began surfacing. ONE of those careers would render him ineligible for the draft automatically. Do you really think it's a coincidence he went with that one? I don't.

Ah, I did a timeline of vpw's life. It developed in the thread, "the way-living in wonderland", and at the end, I gave it its own thread to make it easier to find. Here was the answer to your question: "According to TW:LIL, In 1967, vpw read about the Christians at the House of Acts. vpw went there, impressed them, and convinced them he has extensive, EXCLUSIVE knowledge they lack. He then turned those he could from unorganized Christians into a recruitment arm for his class and organization. They agreed to handle things on the East and West coasts, and many young Christians were impressed with THEM and join. It's been suggested that one of the reasons he went there was because he'd heard of the "free-love" movement and wanted to connect with Christians who would have sex outside of marriage. This claim might sound ridiculous if his accounts of them didn't include little comments about their displays of affection-and especially since he'd asked one of them-back then and there-to give him DETAILS on what an orgy was like. He followed up by claiming that God PERMITTED orgies-but considered monogamy BETTER. It's also believed that San Francisco is where vpw bought the pornographic materials he showed the corps, some Advanced Classes and CFS classes-like the movie of the two women with the dog. (He MENTIONED that video to many Advanced classes and CFS classes where it was not SHOWN.) According to the memorial, his trip to Haight-Ashbury/House of Acts was in 1968. As of 1969, sizeable numbers of young people had flocked to twi from both coasts as a result. Once there was sizeable membership in both coasts, vpw pushed out the Christians from the House of Acts and insisted authority would come FROM hq and tithes would go TO hq. No exceptions. At that point (1969), vpw made his first attempt at a Way Corps, which resulted in the famous "Zero Corps". At some point-presumably early in the way corps history, and possibly as early as 1969, vpw (according to Mrs W's account) first begins to tell his "snow on the pumps" account to people, starting with the way corps."

Next movie. "When the story becomes fact, print the legend." This classic movie's been discussed by a number of people, and this line is well-known on its own. In the Star Wars comic books, a minor character's name was inspired by one of the main characters of this movie.

Clint Howard had my favorite line in the movie. When Bacon's character, in orbit, mentions he forgot to file his taxes before going up, and asked if someone could tell the IRS, one guy in Mission Control (Clint H) says "That's not funny-they'll JUMP on him!" while the others chuckle. Ok, I need a movie, let's see....