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"Well, if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand."

Ok, next movie. This movie eventually gained a cult following. When it was released, it was a box office disappointment- it had a budget of $25 million and the US theatrical run resulted in a box office of $12.9 million. The director was quite despondent about that- he had been hoping to direct serious and weighty films, and that never worked (neither did this), so he gave up directing and his career went into a rough patch. The first draft of the script was by Terry Jones, and a number of people did work on later drafts (like George Lucas) but received no writing credit for it. The film has a main actor and a main actress. Nobody seems to be able to remember any other actors from the movie unless they're really fans of the movie. Both the main actor and main actress were in a few roles before this. IMHO, this is the first movie that either of them is actually REMEMBERED FOR. Both have acted since, and both have had successful careers (although his was not primarily in acting, hers is.) He has passed away, she's still alive.

That's a little ditty about "JACK AND DIANE." (Courtesy of John Cougar Mellencamp, as he was known then.)

Get Smart Steve Carell Anchorman- the Legend of Ron Burgundy

(OS was on the roof, in direct line of fire, when the entire reactor blew, which is why it was blown intentionally. This was a much better exit than in the corresponding comic story- when OS found himself unable to match IM without tricks- and was out of tricks- he took off his helmet and repulsored his own head clean off to deny IM the chance to beat him directly.The movie plot was greatly superior to the story that was used for inspiration.) Ok, next movie, let's see.... Just Go With It Nicole Kidman Billy Bathgate

I'm a little curious about him writing an entire (short) book about it, and an "Encyclopedia of Science" finding his grasp of science and of explanation of science sufficient to include in their book. Any chance we can get the publishing information on either book? This is 2021, we might be able to find copies of them with a little information. Or do we have to take it on faith that this book was written AND that it was quoted in an encyclopedia of science?

Wait, I had a thought. Could be a clever thought, or it could just be another weird idea. The guy could be Ray Liotta's character in "GOODFELLAS." At the end, he went into the Federal Witness Protection Program, and couldn't find any good Italian food in Smalltown USA. At the beginning of "MY BLUE HEAVEN<" Steve Martin's character enters the Federal Witness Protection Program- and has trouble adjusting to life neither mobbed up nor in a city of any size (and lacking any good Italian food, he imagines.)

So, proceeding from "Iron Man 2", let's skip Vanko for once, and, since we can't use Rhodey, I can go with one of the other characters who was introduced in that movie.... Sam Rockwell Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Alan Rickman

"Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again."

Here's what I have (which is not a movie, yet.) We have TWO movies that came out in the same year about the same guy, an actual guy. That almost certainly means it was about something fairly recent and in the news (unless it was the anniversary of a crime or something.) This was a story of a guy who did not-very-good things (no "Sully Sullenberger's story" or anything like that.) The guy in question was alive when this aired. The guy is Caucasian- because otherwise it makes no sense to think Travolta could pass for him, or that someone who passed for Travolta's Mom could pass for his Mom. This ALL (actions and filming) happened a few decades ago (and the guy was young in the film) or happened in the last decade or so (and the guy's not young but probably not depicted as retired.) On the off-chance the guy is not the lead, then the clues about Travolta don't apply to him at all. The only possible not-very-nice guys that come to mind for me would be either : Joey Buttafuoco (the famous Long Island Lolita case had something that WAS played up for comedy that was performed about it), or Frank Abegnale Junior (if Abegnale is the guy and the lead is the Treasury Dept agent who went after him. IF it is either (which is a big jump), then I'm leaning towards the latter- if there was a movie OTHER than "Catch Me If You Can" that appeared about Abegnale at the same time. On the other hand, it's probably neither Buttafuoco nor Abegnale. Were there multiple movies about the Enron scandal?

BZZT!!! Jeff Bridges did not appear in Iron Man 2, not even in archival footage. We're at Iron Man 2. Plenty of characters to choose from.

That's Rod Stewart's "Maggie".

"It's close to midnight and something evil's lurkin' in the dark."

"Kodachrome", Simon & Garfunkel, I think.

"The reason I left was to APPLY the class to my life more, as opposed to just debating about it. I wanted to see people thrilled by the PFAL info again, and was very tired of trying to debate it all the time with people who did not want to apply it (again)." The reason you showed up was to advertise your paradigm. The reason you left was that A) you were getting nearly no nibbles on the bait; and B) you kept getting refuted, which made the bait look more like bait and less like substance. I say that, knowing you were asked to discuss substance lots of times, and you used every excuse to avoid it- changing the subject, accusing everyone else of being dishonest, etc. (Meanwhile, in a completely unrelated thread, I ended up reversing my position on something as the result of an honest discussion, so it's not like it was impossible to change my mind, if you had substance.) What was really tiresome was all the dancing around, and page after page after page of someone saying they didn't have time to devote to giving a substantial answer to ANYTHING even though they had time to fill pages. If you actually wanted people to "apply the class" (which wasn't your thrust then, that was to adopt your position for no reason in order to get results months later), you would have needed to address the question "WHY should I apply this class?" Without a respectable answer to that one, you were advertising and virtually nobody was buying. "Guess what? Plagiarized material, which is accurate with the Word, CAN BE just as effective as original material that is accurate with the Word." Guess what? We all knew that! Long before you ever posted your very first post here, Raf himself pointed out that plagiarism does not affect the SUBSTANCE of what is plagiarized. "Truth from the pen of a plagiarist is still truth." The problem with the plagiarism was never that "the material is useless if it is plagiarized" (a claim not adopted by anyone, but often propped up as a strawman for those seeking to accuse a certain plagiarizing rapist). The problem was that the plagiarism reveals a lack of character by the plagiarist. A serial plagiarist lacks a LOT of character. A serial plagiarist who copyrights his plagiarism shows he understand plagiarism full well, but is fine with it as long as he gets away with it.. Committing a crime is fine for him as long as he doesn't get caught? That's not a position for any supposed "man of God", and demonstrates both unsuitability to lead, and that there's more flaws we don't see. And we didn't see them- he was fine embezzling "church" funds, drugging women and raping them, and so on. But this is all glossed over with a veneer of "nobody's perfect" so long as the pfal fan gets his pfal. They don't say that's fine for ANYONE else- just that vpw gets a free pass, and they trust that his class was accurate despite coming from someone so utterly deficient in Christian morality and Christian character that he shouldn't be trusted to reliably tell you the name of Jesus' mom. "The problem is there are no original writers out there who could do the job, so it got done without academic approval. That's ok, because I don't approve of them." "The problem" is that your position begins by saying that pfal was not only of God, but was THE vehicle that God Almighty endorsed, authorized, and approved of (which is FAR from what any evidence shows, so is purely a leap-of-faith position), and that, SINCE pfal was THE God-endorsed class, that anything is worth overlooking because we got pfal in the end (another leap-of-faith position that is NOT in accord with the Bible.) BTW, for those wondering, vpw rarely made any comments about other sources. If you went by the written pfal stuff, you'd find ZERO references to other writers. In fact, you'd have to either stumble across some teaching tape where he said something to a limited crowd, or dig over 100 pages into "The Way-Living in Love". There, there's no admission either. There's a single comment about nothing he did being original. pfal apologists blow that up into a full confession that he plagiarized leonard's class, Stiles' book, Bullinger's books, and so on. It's absolutely nothing of the kind, and his intent to fool everyone is rather transparent- especially if you read the openings of the Orange Book and the White Book. In fact, an early version of the Orange Book makes mention of an anonymous man who helped vpw learn (it was Stiles), and all the editions afterwards edit the paragraph so the man drops out of the picture as if ne never existed. So, it's backwards. You don't approve of academic approval- and legal ways of using material- because they expose vpw as a liar, a thief, a plagiarist and a conman. The work OF the "original writers" , the actual plagiarized work- that gets deprecated because otherwise there's no excuse for the con job that was pfal. We've been through all of this, lots of times. However, since you do not WISH to see any of these points, you've never learned any of them, and to you it's as if we never wrote them. That's fine, I'm writing this for those who come along later and wonder what happened.

BTW, I've never seen "Good Will Hunting." Considering the cast, I know that's strange. Getting me to sit still for a movie seems harder than ever, lately.

The blacklisted actress might be Jane Fonda, but that's all I've got so far.

Except for that last part, that COULD have been "Scott Pilgrim Vs The World." Once again going from incomplete knowledge, any chance this was "CHASING AMY"???

Hello. If you want to socialize, we have game threads still going in the Games forum, and you are still welcome to join. "From 2002-2008 I was an advocate here that we return to PFAL to see how much we missed the first time(s), and to see how much we forgot or drifted from. I am convinced that 99% of all the woes reported here are due to us all NOT GETTING IT RIGHT the first times." You also outright contradicted the Orange Book in a few major issues- like vpw claiming we could get to the originals and how we could do that, and you saying we could NOT, and vpw saying something like 90% of Scripture means just what it says, and you saying the meanings are hidden, and vpw saying the class (book, once edited) was a class of KEYS and was to UNDERSTAND Genesis to Revelation but not to replace them, and you said it DID replace Genesis to Revelation. You said a lot of things, and usually switched to vague, uninformative wordings in order to obscure either a lack of substance or outright contradicting pfal while explaining pfal. Most of us here were around to see all of that, but a few new people may have missed it. For those people, I'd like to add that I in no way exaggerated what he said nor misrepresented it. Most people who have passed through these metaphorical doors are convinced that the problems were due to vpw violating the Bible and fair moral and legal codes while claiming he was our spiritual leader, and teaching his disciples to be two-fold the child of hell that he was- although, frankly, few matched in in that respect. Most actually cared about people, and only a tiny handful were that sociopathic or that fanatical to match him. You reluctantly agreed he wasn't perfect, but credited that to him being "OVERgifted" probably due to him being "born with an overabundance of brains and brawn" and "where he walked, the earth shook." (Seriously, those were his words, not mine.) You said the keys to getting it right were the hidden keys to pfal you knew and none of us did, and that the failure to get it right wasn't due primarily to pfal being a flawed product. "In those years I was only able to get a very small few of the GreaseSpotters to view things this way. The few of us came back to PFAL, this first wave of us, found it to be better than when we originally enjoyed it. " There were fewer people in your new group than in the "Heavens Gate" comet watchers, or so many other groups convinced they were there primarily due to some secret they know. The US is loaded with people who think they know "the secret" to what's really going on. Thousands of people believe that. The great obscurity of your product, and the requirement that one have fond, nostalgic twi memories seriously limits the target audience of the public. " I predicted back here at GreaseSpot then that I was only dealing with the "First Wave" of those returning to PFAL. " Nostalgia arrives in waves with decades. That's true regardless of content. And calling a handful of people a "first wave" shows a disregard for the term "wave." [To be followed with claims he did not, then later claims he was metaphorical in some way and that I failed to understand him, then later claims it was deliberate so someone could "spring his trap." Some of these posts follow VERY predictable patterns- like Mike returning after being refuted completely and claiming that his last visit showed him coming up with answers to everything and coming off unscathed.] "About 2 or 3 years ago I started seeing lots of Facebook Groups being started by lots of pro-PFAL people, and many comments by other pro-PFAL people. " Defining "pro-pfal" can change who is meant by a lot. By some definitions, that would include ME. Also, "many" is a remarkably vague term. "The number of Facebook Groups" is a lot like when twi defined a 5-person graduating class ENTIRELY by which percentage was going on to do what- 20% to do this, 20% to do that, which was 1 person each time. Facebook groups can be of a single person and a tiny, occasional audience. They also OVERLAP a lot- so 10 Facebook groups on this probably include 80% overlap- or more- of their audiences. "Every now and then a nay-sayer chimes in, but it's obvious how ineffective they are." Isn't it amazing how ineffective a naysayer can be, when they show up at a venue with a purpose to which they are diametrically opposed? ""After 35+ years now, lots of people are done comparing the flurry of clone classes that cropped up after 1986, and have found they fall way short of the original." That's not what they themselves are saying- that's your opinion of what they are doing. Their own answers would be quite different, and NOT rely on vpw, pfal, or anything involving a farm outside New Knoxville, in most cases. BTW, out of the supposed 100,000 people who took pfal, there are perhaps a few HUNDRED, at most, who are doing the splinter thing, with another few hundred if you include twi and SOWERS and so on, the groups with the authoritarian leaders and so on. In nearly every case, the audiences are all aging out- and in the other, the soil doesn't have depth. "

"Sitting on a park bench, eyeing little girls with bad intent."

"CALIFORNIA DREAMING," the Mamas and the Papas, I think.

"There is a House in New Orleans"

The only song with "little daring" I recall is "HERE COMES THE SUN," by the Lads from Liverpool.

Close enough- let him get it.

In "Wayne's World", he was Noah (Vanderhof) of Noah's Arcade, the new corporate sponsor (aka "sphincter boy.") In "Groundhog Day", he was the mayor of Punxhataney (guy in top hat who talks to the groundhog.) He was in other movies as well.