WordWolf

As Raf said so long ago, a truth from the pen of a plagiarist is still true. HOWEVER, plagiarism matters. Plagiarism goes to the character of the plagiarist. Every time vpw said something without directly supporting it- and that was most of the things he said- it rests on HIS "authority" - which is based on his INTEGRITY and his substance. A plagiarist has LITTLE TO NO INTEGRITY. vpw told people all kinds of things, which they took as coming from God Almighty because vpw said so or because he insinuated it- all of which rested on his nonexistent integrity. So, all of "his work" should be approached with a LOT more skepticism because it's clear it was all the compilation of a plagiarist serving HIMSELF, not someone special serving God Almighty. Once that scrutiny is actually applied, the wheels start coming off and all the errors, mistakes, and so on become clearer. With one ASSUMING vpw was correct because one was taught he heard from God Almighty, none of that is going to be examined, which means error will remain hidden.

Coming back to this post..... Ok, so, agreed the snow story was made-up, a lie, and devoid of authority. "His stuff wasn't original, so I believe his main job was compiling, organizing in one package." Where do you get the idea that he had that as any kind of "job"? Oh, right, because he said so. But he's a proven LIAR. Any CLAIMS of his are VOID because he's a proven liar. He's an unreliable source. So, any such CLAIMS would have to be supported some other way other than "that liar insisted that was his job." There's another assumption here- that he was "receiving revelation and taking action on it." The only reason to think he was doing THAT was to do his ALLEGED "JOB", and the only reason to think that was his "job" was that a proven liar SAID IT WAS. So, going back to "he would have had to be in fellowship with the Father at those times he was doing the word"...... All of this is BACKWARDS. it is ASSUMED he got a job from God- which was disproven. It is ASSUMED that this (disproven) job meant he had to compile and organize into a package. It is ASSUMED that to do this (disproven) job meant he had to receive revelation and act on it. It is ASSUMED that to do this (disproven) job meant he "was in fellowship with God" part of the time. All of those assumptions, and all of them based on a disproven point- a disproven claim that he was given a task from God, which he outlined. When your initial assumption is garbage, EVERYTHING proceeding from it is useless. It is error. It may be error that feels comfortable, but that makes it OLD error, not any less an actual ERROR.

There was ONE BOOK. It SUPPOSEDLY was about training a dog by punishing him heavily when he disobeyed and rewarding him a little if he obeyed. vpw said that same book was good for raising dogs, and for raising children. vpw knew nothing about doing either. He'd done little of either, and was bad at both. Nobody would have taken him seriously, except the lies that claimed he had a God-given authority had deceived people.

But.... vpw NEVER RAISED HIS DOGS! He farmed out all the work with the dogs to someone else on grounds. He also farmed out all the work on his kids. And people still take him seriously on the subject of training or raising EITHER.

The book was "HUNT CLOSE." I've heard it says to reward a dog who does the right thing, and punish him heavily for every wrong thing. it's been disavowed by RESPECTED dog trainers because that results in a dog that behaves AS LONG AS THE TRAINER IS WATCHING. The idea of using that to raise a kid when it's inappropriate to even use on a DOG is disquieting, to say the least.

vpw set it up that way on purpose because he'd already gotten caught boinking the church secretary and was ousted as a result. So, the next time, he specifically set up a group where he couldn't get ousted for boinking anyone.

When R@m0n@ was married to T0M M1tch311, that came up also. That is, lcm was boinking R@m0n@. T0M got into an argument with her about it. Someone overheard him shout that he couldn't compete with lcm. He set up to leave the grounds immediately, and begged her to come along. When lcm got wind of this, he sent someone R2m0n@ respected to talk her into staying. When she chose to stay, T0m responded by blowing his own brains out on campus with a gun. Naturally, they put it all on T0m, and told R@m0n@ that if she had chosen to go with him, T0m would have shot her and himself. So, yeah, lcm was partly responsible for T0M's death. Not that I think he was a great guy, but he didn't deserve what he got.

Yet.... even you admit that he made up a snow story. That was blatantly dishonest. That was deceit, that was lying. To any sensible person, that speaks POORLY of his CREDIBILITY. Then when he speaks about God, a SENSIBLE person should remember his credibility was shot and remain skeptical. In twi, however, it's "never question vpw." That's not sensible.

"DODGE, DENY, DISTRACT, BUT NEVER ADMIT AN ERROR IS AN ERROR." - MIKE. I'm sure, later, Mike regretted being that up-front for once about his methods. It was remarkably candid about having a blatantly dishonest approach.

vpw claimed that "Christian" was a corruption of "Christ-in", and that Christians were originally called that because they talked about Christ-in. As always, he was wrong. The man never studied Church history, he studied how to give sermons. In hindsight, it was ridiculous to trust him on anything of substance- Bible languages, Church history..... vpw claimed the early Christians in Acts were called "followers of The Way", with Jesus Christ being "The Way." Naturally, they're into their congregation being called their "FOLLOWERS" and herding them like sheep....and fleecing them like sheep.

Before someone pretends vpw had nothing to do with it, I'm in with.... vpw set the stage for this and vpw planned it all. This was the man who privately told people that God Almighty was OK with ORGIES, and apparently always wanted to attend one since he kept trying to get details of them and hung out where he thought they happened. He also set up an elaborate network where he could target women in twi- he used the "From the Birth to the Corps" papers to find his targets, and was even seen with their paper in his hand when he targeted them. He set up places remote from his home where he had an office AND A PLACE TO SLEEP. That's where he had women-whom he'd carefully selected- sent. Sometimes he drugged them, other times he just plied them with alcohol (lowered inhibitions). And if they looked like they were going to spill the beans or tell someone, the women were kicked out of twi and rushed off campus, and put on a slow bus back home. Meanwhile, as soon as they were off-campus, their name was slandered all over campus, and phone calls were made slandering her back home, and she was made, if possible, to feel like a big failure to God Almighty. Small wonder at least one woman kicked out committed suicide. This was not "and when women threw themselves at him, he sinned." This was "he set up the places to sin, carefully selected sin's targets, drugged women to make it easier to sin, and destroyed their reputations if it looked like they had regrets." To paraphrase George Carlin, it was a sin for vpw to want to rape Maggie Muggins, it was a sin for vpw to plan to rape Maggie Muggins, it was a sin for vpw to set up a place to rape Maggie Muggins, it was a sin for vpw to try to rape Maggie Muggins, and it was a sin for vpw to rape Maggie Muggins. I brought that up once before. One vpw defender came away with saying "the RCC has a lot of categories of sins" and never once said "that was a lot of DELIBERATE DECISIONS vpw made in order to rape ONE woman, let alone MANY."

Ok, now that sounds familiar. "Midnight Rider." I think that's the Allman Brothers.

Sure I'll pray for it. A church that reaches out to their community- I prefer those to the twi method of "Serve us and us only."

"We're all part of the Gnomish Space Marines, Gnomish Space Marines, Gnomish Space Marines." https://gnomish-space-marines.obsidianportal.com/

I thought Ex-C reported something to that effect as well. Perhaps I was wrong.

That's it.

You might as well post the answer, George.

No. Knowing twi, someone THERE misspelled it as "duel" and everyone in the region had to go along.

According to page 1 of that thread, you can flip to page 177 and begin reading from there- that's where she's first mentioned.

We broke all this down in the thread "The Way- Living in Wonderland." I included the page numbers there TWICE- once to post text before commenting, and once when I began commenting. https://www.greasespotcafe.com/ipb/topic/7363-the-wayliving-in-wonderland/ Feel free to requote it here.

"I heat up, I can't cool down."

If you look at the way vpw phrased himself in TW:LiL, you will agree. He hints at a "dalliance" and that it was all her doing- making him the object rather than the doer of deeds. Back then, vpw considered himself a LOT more powerless- or he was busy turning all the blame on her. (This is independent of him being let go from his denomination over his "indiscretion" with a church secretary.)

He knew it because he was in vpw's inner circle, an equivalent to where the RCC has their cardinals, so he was privy to a LOT of things- like vpw's secret stash of "original" books he (vpw) plagiarized freely.

As for George Mueller and the Sardian, here's the best account I can find, recounted a few weeks later. https://www.georgemuller.org/devotional/my-eye-is-not-on-the-fog2874126 My Eye Is Not On the Fog 6/10/2016 7 Comments Charles Inglis, the well-known evangelist, relates the following remarkable incident: "When I first came to America thirty-one years ago, I crossed the Atlantic with the captain of a steamer who was one of the most devoted men I ever knew; and when we were off the banks of Newfoundland he said to me: 'Mr. Inglis, the last time' I crossed here, five weeks ago, one of the most extraordinary things happened that has completely revolutionized the whole of my Christian life. Up to that time I was one of your ordinary Christians. We had a man of God on board, George Mueller, of Bristol. I had been on that bridge for twenty-two hours and never left it. I was startled by someone tapping me on the shoulder. It was George Mueller. Captain,' said he, 'I have come to tell you that I must be in Quebec on Saturday afternoon.' This was Wednesday. It is impossible,' I said. Very well, if your ship can't take me God will find some other means of locomotion to take me. I have never broken an engagement in fifty-seven years.' I would willingly help you, but how can I? I am helpless.' Let us go down to the chart room and pray,' he said. "I looked at this man and I thought to myself, 'What lunatic asylum could the man have come from? I never heard of such a thing.' "'Mr. Mueller,' I said, 'do you know how dense this fog is?' No,' he replied, 'my eye is not on the density of the fog, but on the living God, who controls every circumstance of my life.' "He went down on his knees, and he prayed one of the most simple prayers. I thought to myself, 'That would suit a children's class, where the children were not more than eight or nine years of age.' The burden of his prayer was something like this: 'O Lord, if it is consistent with Thy will, please remove this fog in five minutes. You know the engagement You made for me in Quebec for Saturday. I believe it is Your will.' "When he had finished, I was going to pray, but he put his hand on my shoulder and told me not to pray. First,' he said, 'you do not believe God will do it; and, second, I believe He has done it. And there is no need whatever for you to pray about it.' I looked at him, and George Mueller said this: 'Captain, I have known my Lord for fifty-seven years and there has never been a single day that I have failed to gain an audience with the King. Get up, Captain and open the door, and you will find the fog is gone.' I got up, and the fog was gone. On Saturday afternoon George Mueller was in Quebec."

I agree about the love and respect being the important parts. We can level with God- but always acknowledging Him as God Almighty. I think George Mueller was on to something with HOW he prayed as much as how often he prayed. An eyewitness described it as something a child might say.... and that eyewitness was the captain of the Sardian.