WordWolf

Hey- we're ALL works in progress, here.

Ok, next song. (I'm really confident about that one.) "A bottle of white, a bottle of red, perhaps a bottle of rose instead."

BTW, there's only "out of turn" if you're posting a new song when it's someone else's turn to post a song. Any discussion relevant to the songs is all appropriate. Hopefully it doesn't take over the thread, but sometimes it's neat to discuss a song or album for a moment before moving on. And "the answer was incorrect" is important to post ASAP, particularly if the person whose turn it is said otherwise. Say, Nathan? Are you interested in taking my turn and posting the next song? You would pick a song, not tell us what it is, and post part of the lyrics (probably looking it up online to make sure you had them correct.) We would have to try to guess the correct title and artist without looking up either.

Since the question is still "do you recall wierwille ranting about the concept". I'll answer. It was all before my time. I can recount what other posters quoted, or I can recount what vpw said on tapes that I heard later. On this particular subject, I didn't hear about it on any tapes, as best as I can remember. I know there were a LOT of things vpw got from his dedicated Liberty Lobby phone connection and their books- all of which he tried to pass off later as revelation. So, I'm sure I know where he got his opinions on the subject, and where he claimed he got it. For that matter, since lcm came out with similar rantings, his most likely sources were the exact same ones ("the Pope has an aircraft carrier and is going to take over countries and force them into Catholicism", and so on. NO, I'm NOT exaggerating.) Around the US' bicentennial in general (1976), it's amazing how many people suddenly were in fear of someone taking over the US from within, effective as of some time in 1976.

POLITICS is not permitted on the GSC. The GSC is NOT about politics. Funny you should bring this up exactly today. When 9-11 happened, many people felt the need to express how they felt at the moment. Over time, allowing people to keep talking on that and related subjects- and gradually less-relevant subjects- led to political discussions that poisoned the atmosphere of the board. The staff spent more time on the handful of political posters in 1 forum than they did with hundreds of other posters all along the board. People who wouldn't moderate themselves were moderated by others= and responded by lashing out at the staff like immature toddlers. It was a stressful, thankless, NEEDLESS job. Eventually, the choices were- remove the political forum and political posts, or remove the entire GSC. The GSC was never about politics and does not need to be so. So, politics was deleted. There's lots of places online to post on politics, and there's only one GSC. If you really can't control yourself, you can always find some other board of ex-GSC and go complain how unfair things are that there's actual moderation here. You would hardly be the first to do that, nor the last.

1."Hello, and welcome to "TV Car Trivia!" First question, who was the driver of a '73 Firebird? Uh, Otto?" 2."Uh, Jim Rockford, "Rockford Files"." 3."Gimme "Columbo"." 4."A Peugeot convertible." 1."What color?" 4."Gray." 5."How do you know that?" 4."'Cause I love that show." 5."Man, I got three words for all of y'all: Get a life!" 6."What's on Magnum P.I.'s license plate?" 7."ROBIN-1" 4."Wait, wasn't Robin that faggoty guy that always hung with him?" 8."Naw, that was Higgins. That was Higgins." 2."Hey, hey, ten points for our fearless leader. Sway, how about giving us the Bill Bixby trifecta?" 3."Drove a Corvette in "The Magician", a Ford pickup truck in "The Incredible Hulk", and in "The Courtship of Eddie's Father", he walked. " This remake did well enough in the box office, but I can't help think part of that was due to the advertising. One supporting character was made to look like a main character with most of the screen-time. This is one of the appearances in media of the "coroner with an iron stomach" type of thing. When one character answers the phone, he's at work in a crematorium. He puts down his sandwich- on the corpse- to answer the phone. "If his unpleasant wounding has in some way enlightened the rest of you as to the grim finish beneath the glossy veneer of criminal life, then his injuries carry with it an inherent nobility, and a supreme glory. We should all be so fortunate. You say 'poor Toby'? I say 'poor us'. " Cast includes Delroy Lindo, Christopher Eccleston, Giovanni Ribisi, Arye Gross Angelina Jolie, Nicolas Cage, and Robert Duvall. "Well, without disappointment, you cannot appreciate victory." "Did Eleanor tell you that?" "Well that's hitting below the belt." " One: You kill me, they kill you, your brother dies anyway. Two: You lie, you accept the job, you take your brother, you run. I hunt you down, I kill you, I kill your brother and I kill your mother for the aggravation you cause me. Three: You accept the job, you steal some cars, you make some money, and you be a big brother."

Here's some more cooking shows. Name ANY to take the round. A) Guy Fieri invites the best of the best chefs in a single-elimination, winner-takes-all contest, each going one-on-one with another chef until one is left. Different challenges will affect each round. Two neutral food experts interview the chef during the cooking process, and describe the dish to the judging panel to ensure the panel has no idea who cooked what, preventing them from favoritism. B) 3-4 chefs are called into a parking lot set up as a kitchen. They have to get ingredients by stopping real customers leaving a food store and buy individual ingredients or the entire contents of their cart, sight unseen. They have to cook a successful dish in the provided time- and the time getting ingredients is part of that time! So, waiting for perfect ingredients can eat up all your cooking time (or get expensive in the early rounds when you can buy entire carts sight unseen.) C) The host of the show mentioned in B), now challenges chefs from all over the US to try to out-cook her, 3 at a time. D) The show sets up a kitchen in the middle of a suburban street, with houses on both sides. Contestants must pick a house, and get their ingredients from what the residents have on hand (yes, they're paid for all the stuff.) E) 3 chefs divide the pool of chefs into 3 teams for the season, each of them leading their team. Each episode, the chefs have to cook a dish that fits a description. Each episode, each team picks randomly, and ends up cooking in one of 3 kitchens. The top floor has high-tech, fancy appliances, the middle floor has regular restaurant kitchen appliances, and the bottom floor has appliances like a home cook. The ingredients for use come down and stop for TEN SECONDS for chefs to get ingredients- stopping at the top floor first, then the middle, then the bottom chefs get whatever is left. When it is time to plate, the moving platform stops first at the bottom floor, then the middle, then the top, again for TEN SECONDS. This show involves trying to find a chef of surpassing skill and potential.

And yes, I enjoy southern rock, but usually hear it on the radio (for some value of "radio".) That makes it a bit harder to correctly connect artist with song.

Jack Black Shallow Hal Gwyneth Paltrow

It's been far too many minutes. I need to post more clues.

Diehard Star Trek fans should all know this one. Steppenwolf's "MAGIC CARPET RIDE."

Yes, Leonard Skinerd (or the band of his students) initially recorded "Sweet Home Alabama." However, anyone who performed it is a legitimate answer for this thread. So, acceptable answers would also be "Alabama" (off of "Skynrd Frynds") or the Allman Brothers (off of "Winning Combinations-The Allman Brothers and Lyrnyd Skynrd.") Whew, that was a close one!

vpw plagiarized not just the material, but how it was taught, as well. Over time, he would have forgotten specifics in the delivery that longtime pfal fans would have remembered. So, since it was all mimicry, he would have gotten worse over time. If it had been legit, then the subjects would get BETTER over time, not worse.

I could have sworn someone said vpw had actually connected "spirit of leviathan" with being an alcoholic/drunkard.

That second verse is obvious, especially when it's posted in its entirety. "SWEET HOME ALABAMA", the Allman Brothers.

He may have been a nice man to you, but he threatened me once and tried to intimidate me. I had asked him something. He lied to my face. I asked if he minded if I checked into what he said. He replied by threatening me with physical harm if I did. He was big, but he wasn't fast, nor did he move like a trained fighter. I was NOT intimidated by him. I let my body language show it in spades at that point, and doubled down the more he talked. Frankly, he was increasingly bothered by how I didn't flinch or back down- which made it more fun for me to increasingly show calmness and confidence while he kept trying. For the record, I was faster than him, and a trained fighter, and I already had a plan mapped out if he tried to jump at me. I wasn't just pretending he wasn't a viable threat to me. I'm not of the opinion he was like that before he went to live on-grounds in the corps. I think he degenerated a lot in his first year in residence- since I'd met him before that and that's why we were even HAVING a conversation. Maybe it was because I was another guy, and maybe because he thought he could intimidate me because he was taller than me. Looking back, whenever someone on-grounds said something and tried to one-up me (for the few times I was there, it happened quite a bit), I kept letting it all roll off my back. It looked to me like those came from insecurity and not from a legit concern for me, so I gave it the attention it deserved. I was quite shocked when I'd heard about his death. Frankly, I thought he might have earned a smack-down or a thrashing, but I certainly didn't think he'd earned an early grave. Then again, by deciding to try to blend in on grounds, and cementing his blind loyalty when lcm demanded oaths of blind loyalty in 88-89, he'd begun to set the stage for what actually killed him. Was it his loyalty to lcm, or his loyalty to twi that really set the stage? Perhaps it was both- so when lcm took his wife and it turned out he could do nothing about it (he tried to get her to leave with him, they talked her into staying), he blew his brains out after yelling at her that he couldn't compete with lcm. Why he didn't just shoot lcm instead, I think, goes back to his blind loyalties. He decided previously that he'd go off a cliff for lcm/twi, so, when the option came, that's what he did. And, yes, they told his widow that he would have killed her and himself if she'd left the grounds with him. Yes, that was a vicious lie.

I used to trust the people who introduced me to pfal, and made it sound like they were all great people entirely because of pfal. That was the same bait-and-switch that had been practiced when the hippies had gone out. vpw sent out quality Christians as his advertising arm, and made it look like what made them quality Christians was the pfal class, when they'd been quality long before hearing of it. So, for year after year, quality Christians in twi convinced people that they key to being a quality Christian was pfal and whatever vpw was teaching. I think they had no real idea how they were deceiving everyone, since it had been done to them and it was such an omnipresent practice that it was the status quo. So, because I trusted them, I trusted wierwille- to a point, and lcm- to a lesser point.

I started this thread in "About the Way", and that was not because I wanted to do a historical exegesis of a High Church practice. As it is, in the RCC, the standing is for the Mass, and not for anything else. If you encounter a priest, deacon, or higher-up in any context other than a Mass or a formal ceremony, things are actually pretty CASUAL. In fact, if they're not wearing a clerical collar or other symbol, it's possible to not realize you're interacting with a priest. They also don't require standing when they hold Bible classes.

To say nothing of the tendency in twi for "leadership" to slap the adjective "spiritual" to anything- as if it changed the properties. vpw himself said that, if you took a jar of pickles, and changed the label to "apple butter", that didn't change the pickles on the inside. However, that's exactly what he did. lcm did the same- thus, he'd freak out about something, yell about it at length, then, when he was in control of himself again, announce that the preceding tantrum was actually "spiritual anger"- thus, not a tantrum at all. I'm forgetting a lot of the more common examples. I do remember that- in the late 80s- I'd gotten so tired of the "spiritual noun" business that I started to make fun of it. I ran into another college-age person at an ROA who seemed to be in a good mood. I said he looked like he'd had "a spiritual bl**j**." He cracked up at that, more to the nerve it took to make that joke than anything else, I suspect. It's coming back to me how much "spiritual whatever" was in twi. For a time, that seemed like a piece of any long discussion. "Where's he going to fit that phrase in his teaching?" Not a very long time for me, but then I was out of twi shortly after that, so if they kept it up for the next decade, it's not like I would have known.

So, you're saying that Mr "I hate Roman Catholicism so much that I ranted if my original congregation even had a Christmas tree in their house", Mr "Let's Put an anti-Roman Catholic book in the twi bookstore" turned around and copied the Roman Catholic Church to get people to stand when he entered the room?

No, and you missed a clue.

That's him. He's been in a lot of stuff, and none of that was what he's best remembered for at all.

That last line sounds familiar, but I'm not getting the song from it.

How about "QUANTUM LEAP"???

He was a spaceship commander and I thought he might have been considered a federal agent. In retrospect, that last part doesn't apply.