WordWolf

Not the first line.... "And who knows...which is which...and who is who."

Ok, it's news to me that SETH ROGEN was in all those movies. I'm just not a fan of his. (He was the eponymous Green Hornet and the eponymous Zack. To this day, I've never actually seen ANY of the movies on this list, but I've seen a few minutes of the last one, and maybe 15 minutes of The Green Hornet.)

Incredibly wild swing here: "Popeye" Doyle???

Sandra Bullock Demolition Man Sylvester Stallone

The only thing Mike wants us to change is to stop exposing victor paul wierwille's capital crimes, and how he should have been caught and put in jail- but avoided that by setting up a BRILLIANT network of spies and cronies around himself to catch anyone ready to expose him- and destroy that person's reputation first. It's all about forgiveness- of wierwille's crimes and nothing else. Once again, there's that convenient fiction that everybody at the GSC spends all their free time throwing darts at photos of vpw, and that they never seem to leave the house and do ANYTHING constructive. It's a convenient fiction for those looking to fog the issues and throw up smokescreens. It's also easy to spot.

In other words, Mike went on for pages, speaking in circumlocutions, refusing to get specific. What was it ALL about? "Have you no shame…trying to protect that wascally weasel wierwille by finagling Scripture." When it comes to trying to salvage the reputation of the plagiarizing rapist wierwille, Mike does NOT have any shame. He will finagle Scripture and anything else. By now, he's determined to go to the grave like this.

Ok, let's see. Time for a recap. Page 1, Mike, opening post. May 6, 2021. "I am convinced that 99% of all the woes reported here are due to us all NOT GETTING IT RIGHT the first times." ================================================== Page 9, Mike, February 16, 2022. " From 2002-2008 I was an advocate here that we return to PFAL to see how much we missed the first time(s), and to see how much we forgot or drifted from. I am convinced that 99% of all the woes reported here are due to us all NOT GETTING IT RIGHT the first times. Now, on Feb 16, 2022 I am adding: Yeah, and let me clarify that GETTING IT RIGHT means in it's fullness, AND with enough depth to withstand the onslaughts of the adversary to tear us away from the good we DID get partially right for a time." "We did absorb SOME of what we were taught, and at times and wit some of us it worked VERY well. That's why proPFAL people are tenacious about the good, when they successfully resist focusing on sin and failures. That's why they are coming back." =================== T-Bone, Feb 16, 2022. "T-Bone’s reply to that: Please be more specific. You can break it down point by point. What is the stuff that you think we missed, forgot, or drifted from the first time? Keep it simple. Let’s discuss one item at a time. Also can you elaborate on EXACTLY what are the “99% of all the woes reported here are due to us all NOT GETTING IT RIGHT the first times.” =========================== Mike, page 10, Feb 27, 2022. " I had posted much earlier: On 5/6/2021 at 9:04 AM, Mike said: I am convinced that 99% of all the woes reported here are due to us all NOT GETTING IT RIGHT the first times. */*/*/*/*/*/*/* T-Bone, you ask about the woes that stand out TO WHOM the most? I suggest you ask the same question of God, when He talks about these kinds of things. What kinds of multitudinous sins do you think God had in mind when He inspired Peter to write the following? 1 Peter 4:8 NIV Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. If we had gotten the LOVE part right, things would have gone better. How badly do you crave seeing a multitude of sins covered over with love? Do you think much on this verse, in this GreaseSpot atmosphere of exposing sins?" "T-Bone, please let me know what you learn from all these verses, and about what specific kinds of woes we could have avoided, had we gotten down better the love part. " =============================== Twinky, page 11, February 27, 2022. " Mike, I think T-Bone asked you a very specific question. But based on your reply, I'll rephrase it a little. In what way are 99% of people not loving? And how do you square that with people being a mixed bag, who can be very loving in one situation and (seemingly) a little less loving in another situation? Who got what wrong? Be specific." ============================= Mike, page 11, Feb 27, 2022. "Twinky, I answered T-Bone in a very specific way. And one that focuses on the love and not on what might need covered. In other words, I didn't fall for his bait." ========================== T-Bone, page 11, Feb 27, 2022. " Hi Mike, what are “the Woes” that standout the most? what was/were the thing/things that people didn’t get right the first time? here's your second chance " --------------------------------------- Mike, page 11, Feb 27, 2022. "All this focus on past sins is preventing your spiritual growth. If you are wondering why you are not a spiritual superman like Jesus, THIS is the reason: sin focus. " ========================================================= So. what was Mike thinking of and trying not to say? His claim is that "99%" of all the problems posted HERE (on the GSC) are because nobody's giving vpw a free pass on plagiarism, rape, simony, grand larceny, battery, menacing, and everything else I left out. If we want to see results on the same scale as The Lord Jesus Christ, we need to give vpw a free pass on all his crimes and the lives he ruined. If we don't stop posting about vpw's sins and crimes, then our spiritual growth will be STUNTED. So, the "after" in this "before and after" is to get results on the same scale as Mike, who, having done that, must be demonstrating comparable results (i.e. Jesus Christ-class results.) Sadly, Mike has remained evasive all through the thread when asked about the results he's actually gotten, so we only have the INFERRED results.

I TImothy 1:19-20 19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: 20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. II Timothy 4: 14-15 14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: 15 Of whom be thou ware also; for he hath greatly withstood our words. ========================== Paul, baby? All this focus on past sins is preventing your spiritual growth. If you are wondering why you are not a spiritual superman like Jesus, THIS is the reason: sin focus.

-This 1941 movie later had 4 sequels. Actors in it include Claude Rains and Ralph Bellamy. It also included Bela Lugosi as Bela. However, nobody ever seems to remember he was in this movie- most remember it for exactly one actor and one actress (who do not play "a couple" at any point, neither in this movie nor real life.) It was written by Curt Siodmak. -It also had a remake in 2010 with some recognizable actors. -The 1941 version had an influence on a number of later movies of the same subject. -The actor with the titular role brought his German Shepherd with him- who acted in the movie...in an important role! -The theatrical trailer includes moments with fighting a bear. Unfortunately, the bear ran off during filming, so he made the cutting-room floor for the movie. -I would like to thank countless yaks for their contribution to the titular role. -The first draft left a major plot point open to interpretation, but the final version made things very unambiguous. I'd like to see a version where the movie is done as a straightforward psychological thriller instead of how it's been done so far.

I've experienced revelation. My experiences often predated hearing what vpw had to say on the subject. I suspect his understanding was SHALLOW because it was based entirely on what OTHER people understood and taught, rather than his own work or his own experience. (So, yes, when he claimed to go to the racetrack and pick all the winners by revelation but didn't put ANY money down, not even on the last race, I'm calling that a lie and him the liar that lied. When he claimed that, the same day at the same racetrack, that God showed him who was saved and "seed of the serpent" and vpw went up and addressed them, I'm calling that another lie and him the liar that lied.) Technically speaking, some of it lined up with what I later heard from him- since he was parroting what other, more learned men had learned. I didn't learn it from him, my experiences didn't follow doing things his way, but my experiences didn't contradict some of what he said (nor vice versa.) I give him no credit for it, but I also don't discount my experiences- some of which was bought painfully. It sounded to me like you were dismissing all modern revelation categorically. If so, I disagree and would be hard to convince otherwise. If not, I think I'm not the only one who thought that's what you meant. BTW, in other news, NO POLITICS, please, by ANY posters.

On the off-chance you're reading what I'm writing at the moment (the odds aren't so hot by now)... You posted something VAGUE. T-Bone asked what you-the person who posted- meant with your VAGUE comment when you posted it. You're replying that they should ask God. The thing is.... God isn't the one who posted it. You posted it, and were asked a simple question. The idea that even SIMPLE questions, to you, are TRAPS shows an inability and unwillingness to communicate clearly, and perhaps a lack of confidence in what you're posting. A refusal to discuss what you yourself posted shows a disinterest in discussion in a discussion forum. We've had plenty of that from everybody else who came here solely to advertise. You're sending a message rather clearly- whether intentionally or not.

That's either CCR or John Fogerty soloing. "There's a bathroom on the right." (Or possibly "Bad Moon Rising.")

The short of it is that lcm was recruited in college. He was young and naive, and wanted answers. vpw conned him completely. lcm became incredibly loyal to him, and vpw slowly turned him into two-fold the child of heck that he himself was. Part of that was that vpw KNEW he was running a con, so he knew when to shut up and hide things. He'd covinced lcm all of it was of God, so lcm was fully sincere and thought he was doing the right thing when he copied vpw's harmful things. Like the student of a Pharisee who was made two-fold the child of heck his teacher was, so was lcm. When asked privately why vpw hand-picked lcm, vpw said it was because lcm never questioned him he always did what vpw told him to do. vpw had 2 men rabidly loyal to him- l craig martindale and chris geer. lcm sounded like a normal jock who was a Christian once upon a time, but vpw basically destroyed the man he was. In one of life's little twists, as soon as lcm was enthroned, he tossed vpw aside and thought every thought that flittered through his own head was Divine Revelation and vpw's was yesterday's news. There's a number of threads about him. Here's one. "Who was L Craig Martindale?"

Hey- I just figured something out. When vpw supposedly learned to speak in tongues from JE Stiles (when he learned to fake the whole thing), it took him HOURS. Stiles was baffled as to why it was taking so long when he normally got quick results. Looking back, it's obvious why it took hours. vpw's life was full of PERFORMANCE. When he learned to do something of God, he learned to FAKE something of God. He learned to preach by learning to imitate legitimate preachers. He learned to plagiarize the work of others with a preacher's delivery (which he faked) so it looked legit- legit material with the FACADE, the APPEARANCE, of legitimate preaching. When Stiles tried to work with vpw, vpw was studying how to FAKE everything- gestures, what the syllables sounded like, the intonations, and so on. It took Stiles hours because it took that long for vpw to figure out how to ape him and imitate him in detail. We all know he always recited the same handful of syllables when he supposedly demonstrated SIT- "Lo SHON ta ma la ka SI to la SHON ta." That seems to have been his entire SIT vocabulary.

I've heard of those referred to as "internal method" (what you described as method actor) and "external method" (what you described as action-based actor. There's a story, sadly fictional, about the preparations Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Olivier used preparing for their difficult (torture) scene in The Marathon Man. Supposedly, they used both methods. Dustin Hoffman used the "internal method." To feel what would be similar to torture, he didn't shave that weekend, stayed up, and gave himself a hard time in general. Laurence Olivier used the "external method." To feel what the torturer would feel, he stood and moved as the torturer would, and used that to inform himself how to feel in the role. When Dustin Hoffman arrived on set, Olivier took one look at him and asked what happened. When Hoffman explained, Olivier replied "Next time, try acting- it's much easier." Sadly, this story was fictional, and Hoffman repeatedly tried to set the record straight. What IS true is that Dustin Hoffman WAS a method actor through and through (using the "internal method.") In the same movie, Hoffman's character suffered an attempted drowning. Trying to make the scene more realistic, he eventually had to be given oxygen. However, I'm sure he felt what it was like to be drowned while filming it! So, in "method acting", one learns what the character would feel by analogous experience. In action-based acting, one learns what the character would feel by moving as the character would, and listening to one's own body. I disagree that vpw was either. vpw never actually FELT what he was simulating- it was all an act. When he wanted to look sad and wretched, he didn't simulate any feeling, he simulated the outward appearance and didn't feel even a fake analogue. If he had to cry fake tears, they were on command and not the result of faking sorrow to himself. When he wanted to show joy, he copied the expressions and tone of people who spoke while experiencing joy. With an actor, there's some feeling of the emotion one is demonstrating. As a true narcissist and sociopath, vpw felt NOTHING. He learned which demonstrations were effective at what times, and demonstrated them for best effect. When he studied preachers, he didn't simply study how they prepared their sermons, or even simply how they taught. He studied the vocal and facial expressions and when to make them. If he found a successful sermon, he reproduced the content- and he reproduced the DELIVERY. vpw was convinced that "sincerity" was something that was in APPEARANCE but not in REALITY. He even taught it that way. He said that the salesman who sells a brush with only one bristle on it would have to be VERY sincere. That is completely wrong. The salesman who knows he's selling a toothbrush with only one bristle on it- who knew that's what he was selling- would be unable to be sincere that it was a good brush, good for brushing. If he persisted in selling it, he would have to deceive and pretend it was good, all while knowing it was useless. He would be the OPPOSITE of sincere. But vpw taught it like that in public, many times. That says a lot about his world-view, all by itself. When vpw was what he thought of as "sincere", he was faking it the entire time, ready to sell a worthless product. He even said that it was no guarantee for truth. (We thought he meant that someone who really believed something was not guaranteed to believe something true, but he didn't mean that at all since he used the word "sincere" to mean something false, he used the word "sincere" insincerely. :)

I Timothy 4:2 "Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;" As much as I'd liked to imagine that lcm, once out of the spotlight, got quiet, got humble, and went to God and learned humility, it's obvious he did none of the kind. He was out of the spotlight, but has learned nothing in all the years he's been under wraps. That's amazing, since some of us have lived entire new lives during that same time-frame. lcm has never understood what he did wrong, he has never understood how he hurt innocent people. vpw abused him by leading him astray and teaching lcm how to abuse people, but lcm has never even asked whether or not it was right to do so in all the years since. He has no remorse over his actions, because he has no remorse over actions that hurt people. That's a shame.

The title IS "BEEP BEEP" and is often remembered as "the Nash Rambler Song." This was The Playmates' big hit. Here's some trivia. https://www.songfacts.com/facts/the-playmates/beep-beep

"While...ri-ding...in...my Cadillac,... what...to my surprise........A lit-tle...Nash...Ram-bler was fol-low-ing me... a-bout... one-third...my...size."

"ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER." (I remember U-2 covering it more than Dylan singing it.)

That's a very odd quote from a movie. Are you sure you're in the correct thread?

That's it!!!

This 1941 movie later had 4 sequels. Actors in it include Claude Rains and Ralph Bellamy. It also included Bela Lugosi as Bela. However, nobody ever seems to remember he was in this movie- most remember it for exactly one actor and one actress (who do not play "a couple" at any point, neither in this movie nor real life.) It was written by Curt Siodmak. It also had a remake in 2010 with some recognizable actors.

That is correct! For the curious, the artist was "Napoleon the 14th." Your turn!

"Remem-ber when- you ran- away and I- got on- my knees- and begged- you not- to leave- because- I'd go- berserk? Well- you left- me a-nyhow and then- the days- got worse- and worse- and now- you see- I've gone- complete-ly out of my mind." You probably haven't heard this song anytime recently, but you've probably heard this song some time ago.

That's him. Cronkite was the voice-actor for "Liberty's Kids", and Billy West for "Histeria!"