WordWolf

I'd say that ALMOST all of us have grown past black-and-white, all-or-nothing thinking. I'd hoped, to some degree, I could say all of us have at least grown PARTLY past it, I thought about what one poster had posted once, about how, over the years, posters can change their positions, and about how it's not fair to criticize someone for maintaining a position that they no longer held. So, I opened a thread specifically to discuss changed positions. This would have been a more clear, dignified way for Mike to mention he'd changed some of his silliest positions of the past. Mike DUCKED the chance. He posted on the thread, but dodged addressing the point of the thread as it related to himself. He was fine mentioning others and them changing their stances. So, what's the clear meaning? Mike hadn't changed positions, and didn't want to draw attention to his old positions. That's understandable considering the actual positions. WordWolf: "BTW, you've missed some of the best stuff. Mike promotes pfal so much because Jesus Christ is VERY interested in pfal. Mike knows because Jesus Christ told him so. Mike has also said that when Jesus Christ returns, he will have a copy of the Orange Book in his hand and be teaching us from it. When it was asked if he was serious (I was SURE it was a joke, myself) Mike confirmed he was serious and had seen Jesus Christ that way many times. On the off-chance Mike no longer believes one of those, I asked, offering to give him a chance to correct the impression he's made. So far, he's gone out of his way to refuse to address any of that. A la vpw, that means he doesn't want to disavow any of it, but he finds it indefensible, so he's going to leave it alone, and prevaricate if necessary, then pretend he actually addressed the questions." chockfull: "Dang. I guess I never had the imagination to picture the return of Christ like Aladdin descending from the sky on a magic carpet with a glowing orange book in his hand that he is expounding from. " OldSkool: "I never had the imagination either and that's coming from a guy who dosed psychadelics pretty hard in his late teens...lol All joking aside...and I havent touched psychadelics in like 30 years or so...lmao...though this thread may cause me to expironment before it's over...j/k....anywho. Man oh man. Mikey - where you at ole boy? Do you or do you not still believe this?" Now, if Mike runs true to form, Mike's "response" will be a dodge, a distraction, and a wall of text that doesn't address the questions at all, then later he'll pretend he answered, and send people for some buried post in the middle of someone else's thread. ====================== Mike: "I find it amusing that after I effectively de-bunked your opening post, that the “absent Christ” teaching was so terrible, you run and hide under boos and hissing regarding OFF TOPIC items. Had you and the others paid better attention to the good we received long ago about God's wisdom to hide the man Jesus’ flesh from us and cause this temporary absence, this humiliating retreat of yours would not be necessary. How did you feel when Raf, Oldiesman, and even Nathan_Jr supported my take on the absent Christ? But instead of going back to PFAL to get it more right and more fully, you joined the focus on the things that went wrong in those days, on sin and shortcomings of humans. LIKEWISE, had you and WW paid more attention to IDEAS what I write, you'd have noticed that the whole thing about my little dual with one poster long ago, over the Orange Book and Christ's being clarified by me, here, many months ago. You can search the archives for my explanantion. Instead you focus on ways to try humiliate me. LoL If I were worried about looking bad to blind eyes, I'd have never stepped into this food fight. I am only interested in proving that you folks know not what you criticize. I succeed at this OFTEN here. I am constantly pointing out how you folks forgot MUCH from the good old days, and weren't mature enough enough to even understand some of the deep items we were taught. You must have seen SOME good to sign up for the class and hang in there with the botched Craig Ministry. I recognize your extreme handicap at having got in so late. I think I saw you mention it was like 1993? All you saw was Craig’s desparate moves then, and had little time to take many PFAL classes before it was dumped in 1995. How many times have you sat thru the entire class? Many of us in the good old days had over 20 sittings to learn from that class. You saw the worst of TWI, and very little of the original class. If there is any way you could like me to help you with this handicap, please feel free to let me know." ----------------------- Mike can't change his spots. He's still holding the most bizarre, indefensible ideas, and desperately wants to avoid discussion of any of them, let alone all of them. He's playing children's games with discussions, refusing to speak plainly, then has the nerve to drop his advertisements. Oh, yeah, Mike, after all that, you surely have enough credibility left that people will take you seriously.

Aw, you spoiled the next routine! We were going to get some vague comments, and some question vaguely related to one or the other, and if someone answered, Mike was going to announce those like they were actual news. If nobody answered, Mike was going to announce that nobody was able to answer his questions- which still produces disinterest and rolled eyes around here. --------------------------------------------- BTW, you've missed some of the best stuff. Mike promotes pfal so much because Jesus Christ is VERY interested in pfal. Mike knows because Jesus Christ told him so. Mike has also said that when Jesus Christ returns, he will have a copy of the Orange Book in his hand and be teaching us from it. When it was asked if he was serious (I was SURE it was a joke, myself) Mike confirmed he was serious and had seen Jesus Christ that way many times. On the off-chance Mike no longer believes one of those, I asked, offering to give him a chance to correct the impression he's made. So far, he's gone out of his way to refuse to address any of that. A la vpw, that means he doesn't want to disavow any of it, but he finds it indefensible, so he's going to leave it alone, and prevaricate if necessary, then pretend he actually addressed the questions.

So, for now, FREE POST!

Ok, turning over the cards here. This was Little Feat's "Representing the Mambo", the title track of the album of the same name. It got quite a bit of airplay at the time.

If it's a straight discussion of the facts and science, it would go in "Doctrinal"- it would be a straightforward discussion of the doctrine of the flat earth and evidence for and against it. If it's a metaphor for something twi-related, I would put it in "About the Way" since the actual discussion is about the way.

I get the feeling I've seen the remake. Um, "21"?????

The Rocky Horror Picture Show Tim Curry Clue (Normally I might avoid re-using a movie done recently, but I used completely different actors each time, so I thought this one was fine.)

The Proposal Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern

Richard Roxburgh Kate Beckinsale Robbie Coltrane

Was this the original "Price is Right"?

If it wasn't about you, then there wouldn't be talk about a thread going to "the dungeon", as if it was a pejorative term for the move. Your challenges are not responded-to because nobody feels like responding to them. You've used up what little goodwill you were given, and nobody has any confidence you've anything of substance to add....which you're adding after some wild goose-chase. For someone who supposedly has gone to different sources, it's interesting that what you think is even worth discussing is not only in the "duh" category, it's still out of pfal, ripped off of Bullinger. John 4:24 "God is a Spirit". So, God Almighty being "The Holy Spirit" is not only obvious, it's straight out of Bullinger, and thus, straight out of pfal when it ripped off Bullinger. And you want someone to play your silly-@$$ games, only to end up with "gems" like that one. Seriously, if that's what you have to offer, it's REMEDIAL at best. It's like having a small child post here, playing coy about some secret, and when it's revealed, it's something we've all heard before. Often.

"Greta's flunky, some boot-licking lackey, some wild-eyed Romeo winds up the mountain with Rio down below. Drives too slowly past a burning impromptu altar, attended by no one of visible means." "Rounding the corner we come to a halt. Doors fly open as we prepare for assault. Out from the shadows step the dangerous boys. Hands hiding weapons, they treat them like toys. Debutante Gretta, the taxidermist's daughter. She knows what to say. She knows how to mingle, she knows the lingo." "Gretta leads us through the stone carved archway, into the school of samba, the place of sacred rites. We push through a gauntlet of limp-wristed handshakes, and empty cotillion air kisses. Gretta smiles as we make our way to the bar. The new crowd says I remind them of Frank- who died of excessive nymphets in Barcelona... in BarceLOna." "Gretta Gretta I've got to slip away. It just won't work between us. Your daddy runs the house of pain. You are the taxidermist's daughter."

"Greta's flunky, some boot-licking lackey, some wild-eyed Romeo winds up the mountain with Rio down below. Drives too slowly past a burning impromptu altar, attended by no one of visible means." "Rounding the corner we come to a halt. Doors fly open as we prepare for assault. Out from the shadows step the dangerous boys. Hands hiding weapons, they treat them like toys. Debutante Gretta, the taxidermist's daughter. She knows what to say. She knows how to mingle, she knows the lingo." "Gretta leads us through the stone carved archway, into the school of samba, the place of sacred rites. We push through a gauntlet of limp-wristed handshakes, and empty cotillion air kisses. Gretta smiles as we make our way to the bar. The new crowd says I remind them of Frank- who died of excessive nymphets in Barcelona... in BarceLOna."

As I couldn't name a Phish song to save my life, let alone recognize one, it's very unlikely I'll ever post one. (So, this isn't one.) I am familiar with some Steely Dan, but this isn't any. BTW, I quite like this song, and have since I first heard it on the radio. Just a reminder- no looking up anything if you're guessing- if you do, you're disqualified and have to sit it out. ("I have to look it up, the suspense is killing me!")

"Greta's flunky, some boot-licking lackey, some wild-eyed Romeo winds op the mountain with Rio down below. Drives too slowly past a burning impromptu altar, attended by no one of visible means." "Rounding the corner we come to a halt. Doors fly open as we prepare for assault. Out from the shadows step the dangerous boys. Hands hiding weapons, they treat them like toys. Debutante Gretta, the taxidermist's daughter. She knows what to say. She knows how to mingle, she knows the lingo."

So, George is up.

It makes sense if he got it from a movie. vpw plagiarized every Christian writer he came across, but lcm plagiarized "Staying Alive", the sequel to "Saturday Night Fever."

Next song. "Greta's flunky, some boot-licking lackey, some wild-eyed Romeo winds op the mountain with Rio down below."

The Rocky Horror Picture Show Meat Loaf Aday Fight Club

I'd less this go, but it's the first time in a while I've gotten a song. This is Green Day's "BOULEVARD OF BROKEN DREAMS." Personally, I found it amusing that the video showed the singer walking with the band while he sang "I walk alone."

I really think that Rnr is more a matter of the golden parachutes and paychecks of a few twi higher-ups who realized twi was planning on leaving them high and dry. If they had been given a bigger slice of the pie, they would have stayed in twi longer yet. These were leaders who stayed when all the previous exoduses (exodi?) saw everyone with sense jump ship. Other than realizing they were getting older, there was no reason to finally leave.

Unless one goes beyond what vpw taught, one can't go beyond his insistence that one can't go beyond what one is taught!

If you really don't want to look more and more the fool, then you should stop patronizing everyone. We read you like a comic book. All this "this next part will blow your mind" stuff makes it look like your expectations are extremely low, especially compared to the rest of us here. Otherwise, go ahead, keep it up. No need to pretend you're not you.

I made my best guess, using a line from the song. I've heard the song before, but I don't know the title nor the artist. (And, apparently, I need to sit down and listen to more "Little Feat" if I ever get a chance.)

BTW, it's a little embarrassing that we've gone over David, Bath-shebah and Uriah as much as we have, and you STILL maintain the same errors over the accounts.