WordWolf

It is definitely NOT "Death on the Nile."

-The scene which introduces the main character's obsession with symmetry might also have served to draw attention and give his friend time to complete his search. -The original story was inspired by a personal experience by the writer, plus a major news story at the time. -Personally, I thought it was odd that only 1 1/2 actors prepped for their role by doing something I thought would be very obvious. -For those who know enough to wonder WHICH, the one in the movie was "the Simpion." -This remake had animations of moving landscapes. At least 1 actor experienced motion sickness during filming. -This story originally appeared, serialized, in the "Saturday Evening Post." -There was a flaw in this movie's script. Don't worry, nobody seems to catch it. For that matter, the original had the same flaw, and audiences didn't seem to catch it THEN, either. -The scene with the piece of cake took 1 1/2 days to complete, and included eating cake. The director was amazed that the other actor in the scene seemed immune to a common fear among actors of having to eat on-screen. [/b] -The principal actor was well aware of the over-extravagance of his character's moustache, but it was mentioned 15 times in the original book, so he judged that was apt. Besides, the original version included a normal moustache, and the author complained. The main character is NOT French, he is Belgian.

"When you try to win sometimes, you lose sight of the goal." "Mr. Stamphill, you are skating on very thin ice." "Maybe your Honor, but I'd like to get to the other side." "How do you think the Yankees will do against the Redskins this year?" "The Yankees are a baseball team. The Redskins are a football team. Personally, I think the Redskins would kick the $h1t out of them." "Mister Young, we have GOT to talk. Would you like a cigarette?" "No thanks, that $h1t'll kill ya." "I was wondering if I could talk to you, sir, about a continuance." "No." "You don't understand, sir, he just sits there. I can't even get him to speak." "Well maybe he's practicing for the gas chamber. Tell him to take deep breaths." "Now, if you escape, action: l lose my job... Reaction: l have a family that l will not be able to provide for! Now, knowing this information, can you tell me why you would possibly want to escape and jeopardize my family? l've done nothing to you but my job. And instead of letting you learn by breaking the rules, l feel l need to show you how to obey them. Tolerance. Tolerance for pain. My tolerance of you. But tolerance can be mistaken for kindness. And kindness can be mistaken for weakness. And we can't have weakness, can we, Henri? " "I do not need YOU to tell me what is, or is not okay. In this court room, I am the one who decides what is, or is not okay. Okay? " "Did you kill Rufus McCain?" "I was the weapon, but I ain't no killer. "

Or they may not be. I'll add more clues later.

The second half of your post is mostly wrong, so it is not "Primal Fear." The first half of your post is mostly right.

No.

I still can't find a verse with practicing one letter of the alphabet at a time. If God Almighty provides the utterance, and it produces coherent sentences, then it's senseless to try to do one letter at a time. Are we really getting coherent sentences of prayer and praise to God while doing our best to focus on producing different words that start with the same letter? If not, where's the verse that gives an exception to what it produces when you practice?

I don't know if any watched the original. The one thing the one actor did was not done by any in the original- but I had to check before posting this. (I question whether or not they COULD have as a matter of historical record. Conflicting sources disagree- Imdb says no, Wikipedia says yes, and I'd side with Wikipedia that they COULD HAVE.) No, it wasn't ANY of the ones you posted so far. BTW, I said one actor actually did it to prepare, and another actor I consider getting 1/2 credit for "showing up and walking around."

What do you have so far? Start from there and see what that tells you. (No, I didn't hide another clue just now.)

-The scene which introduces the main character's obsession with symmetry might also have served to draw attention and give his friend time to complete his search. -The original story was inspired by a personal experience by the writer, plus a major news story at the time. -Personally, I thought it was odd that only 1 1/2 actors prepped for their role by doing something I thought would be very obvious. -For those who know enough to wonder WHICH, the one in the movie was "the Simpion." -This remake had animations of moving landscapes. At least 1 actor experienced motion sickness during filming. -This story originally appeared, serialized, in the "Saturday Evening Post." -There was a flaw in this movie's script. Don't worry, nobody seems to catch it. For that matter, the original had the same flaw, and audiences didn't seem to catch it THEN, either. -The scene with the piece of cake took 1 1/2 days to complete, and included eating cake. The director was amazed that the other actor in the scene seemed immune to a common fear among actors of having to eat on-screen. [/b]

"When you try to win sometimes, you lose sight of the goal." "Mr. Stamphill, you are skating on very thin ice." "Maybe your Honor, but I'd like to get to the other side." "How do you think the Yankees will do against the Redskins this year?" "The Yankees are a baseball team. The Redskins are a football team. Personally, I think the Redskins would kick the $h1t out of them." "Mister Young, we have GOT to talk. Would you like a cigarette?" "No thanks, that $h1t'll kill ya." "I was wondering if I could talk to you, sir, about a continuance." "No." "You don't understand, sir, he just sits there. I can't even get him to speak." "Well maybe he's practicing for the gas chamber. Tell him to take deep breaths."

That wasn't meant to be a clue, but saying this is a "crowd" is more of a choice than an accurate appraisal of how many people are participating.

Oh, good. This "crowd" was getting things too fast, I thought this one might have been too easy.

No, in this case, I was thinking about how one actor did it, and another kinda-sorta did it. So, he got 1/2 credit for showing up and walking around.

-The scene which introduces the main character's obsession with symmetry might also have served to draw attention and give his friend time to complete his search. -The original story was inspired by a personal experience by the writer, plus a major news story at the time. -Personally, I thought it was odd that only 1 1/2 actors prepped for their role by doing something I thought would be very obvious. -For those who know enough to wonder, the one in the movie was "the Simpion." -This remake had animations of moving landscapes. At least 1 actor experienced motion sickness during filming.

I remember someone who was sorta "stuck" rhyming in her tongue. I have no idea how that one was resolved, if it ever was. As for the same phrase, that was vpw's result as well- "Lo SHAN-ta ma laka SI-to la-SHON-ta." Always that exact phrase. From a man who admitted that he supposedly faked speaking in tongues when someone genuinely tried to help him. Supposedly, he recited Scripture in Greek and they didn't recognize it. Mind you, it's likely he made up that entire story- but it shows he was WILLING to fake SIT long before he met us.

For the record, technically, I'm not closed to the idea that someone, somewhere, is actually Speaking In Tongues, the real thing. I'm confident that everything I've seen in any group, ex-twi or not, all supposedly speaking in tongues, are nothing of the kind, and the real thing would appear VERY different. (Freed of the nonsense concept that they'd have a roomful of people speaking "tongues of angels", there would be actual foreign languages spoken.) Mind you, I'd be more than a little skeptical based on how completely I was snowed before. As to how "speaking in tongues" and "interpretation" and "prophecy" can be used to bind a group together, we've discussed this before. Any sociologist could certainly explain it if they'd seen the results, and it doesn't take a degree holder to do so, either. The actual act we saw/did in twi/ex-twi groups are fake- able by actors, even by acting students. Therefore, con-men can certainly fake "the worship manifestations" as we were taught them. It's also possible to set up situations where someone fakes them, is told they're doing the real thing, and the results are the person fakes them convinced they're doing the real thing. The results appear identical to what we all saw all the time. (Yes, there's an obvious reason for that.) On a practical level, it's completely possible to design a cult where people are told they will speak in tongues, and get them to do something that resembles what we did in every measurable way. (Yes, there's an obvious reason for that.) On a doctrinal level, the Bible only has ONE VERSE that's used to suggest SIT would be incomprehensible- and nowadays that gets me VERY suspicious that verse is being misused. In this case, it is. It's in a list of verses with ridiculous levels of hyperbole- speaking with tongues "of angels" is in the same category as literally moving mountains with your faith, and generosity to the point of handing over all your possessions including your body. It was never meant to be LITERAL that there were people speaking "tongues of angels." If they exist, they are not mentioned elsewhere, so they're not our concern if they DO exist. There's plenty of human languages, whether current or extinct. Mind you, I changed my position due to 2 things. Primarily, I was unable to argue against everything on this list- I was well aware the social aspects could be faked, but the supposed Biblical claims didn't hold up to scrutiny. Secondarily, when someone tried to argue FOR "speaking in tongues", they weren't able to bring any SUBSTANCE to the table. There's a saying about discussions, and HOW the person addressed the discussion said more than anything else- they neither cleared anything up, nor came in with anything I'd somehow overlooked. (If I'd overlooked something, that might have been different, so I checked.) So, they just attempted to fog each of the issues, and that, if anything, reinforced what I'd already concluded- my previous position was indefensible. A perfect example of how that unfolded was how I later mentioned I'd changed positions, and I'd held off making a final decision to see if the other arguer somehow had thought of anything I had not (and thus, had a sensible argument.) They angrily challenged me to come up with an example. They wanted me to come up with an example of something I had been unable to come up with previously. That was the level of logic I was dealing with, which made me feel better about my decision.

The problem with relying SOLELY on the KJV is that the version is about 500 years old, and its wording is about 500 years old. Unless you read Shakespeare for fun and understand it without footnotes, I don't recommend trying to use it for understanding. "As that" there is the part that's easy to misunderstand, since it's not a phrase in modern usage. II Thessalonians 2:1-2 NIV 2 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord has already come. II Thessalonians 2:1-2 NASB 2 Now we ask you, brothers and sisters, regarding the [a]coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 that you not be quickly shaken from your [b]composure or be disturbed either by a spirit, or a [c]message, or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. =================================== Those verses were addressing some people's concern that "the day of the Lord" had already passed AND THEY MISSED IT. If you read the passages in a clearer version, you will be less likely to make mistakes common to people trying to decipher the KJV and end up rendering modern Bible- as if there weren't any already commercially available. You can buy some locally, you can read some online, and there's free versions for download.

I've noticed a sloppiness about this sort of thing that the internet has only multiplied. According to one author who blames the concept of the pre-Tribulation Rapture for ruining both his job and his marriage, the whole thing was invented by John Darby, who got it from Mary MacDonald's prophecy. The thing is, NEITHER of them pushed a pre-trib Rapture position. MacDonald's prophecy (I've read it) was loaded with her concerns- of which she was quite vocal- that the church WOULD have to live through the Tribulation AND WAS NOT READY FOR IT. Since there's a lot about the internet that is pro-yelling and against reading books, it doesn't surprise me that this story about them keeps rolling along.

It ate my post? Ok, I'll try again tomorrow. I don't want to redo the whole thing right now.

That's interesting. In the theater, I had the impression that was a bald cap. Then again, I saw that 4x with the cinema's giant screen. Since then it's been a lot easier to make it pass. (I went 2x and sat through 2 showings each time. My parents were amazed I was still alert and keen watching it the fourth time, but then, I was a kid at the time.) Ok, next movie.....

Next movie. "When you try to win sometimes, you lose sight of the goal." "Mr. Stamphill, you are skating on very thin ice." "Maybe your Honor, but I'd like to get to the other side." "How do you think the Yankees will do against the Redskins this year?" "The Yankees are a baseball team. The Redskins are a football team. Personally, I think the Redskins would kick the $h1t out of them."

No, let's change that last round. Mrs Doubtfire Robin Williams Dead Poets Society

Mrs Doubtfire Robin Williams Good Morning Vietnam

The twi landscape changed a great deal after the 1988-1989 split that lost 80% of the membership. Before that, the classes and meetings were comfortable because they were more organic and let people make them comfortable. And the people that grew twi were generally quality Christians. Once they were gone, there was the twi that you knew- mechanistic and controlling (a lot moreso than before.) People often got swept into twi and enjoyed their time there. The classes were billed as a big part, and talked up as critical, so people expected to go through them- and many came away with stories of what they overcame to take the classes, more like a badge of honor than a millstone around the neck. Sometimes, a member would volunteer to pay for the class fee for a new person who seemed unable to raise the money, or gave him/her a new Bible when the class started. When things are like that, getting to sessions 8-12 gets elements of excitement as well as anxiety. Nobody wants to disappoint a group making them happy, and nobody wanted to feel left out. With 4 classes ironing out hesitations, most people had no trouble beginning to, say, "speak in tongues" when it was time. Most of the remainder moved along as soon as someone running the class addressed them specifically (while everyone was speaking and nobody was looking), and a tiny handful had to be worked with afterwards. vpw himself had to be worked on afterwards like the remedial student he was, when JE Stiles taught him and spent hours working with him. That doesn't even count those who were already "speaking in tongues" before taking that class, due to being too young to take it or having to wait for an official class. So, no pressure for those people. We all WANTED to believe. We all were invited into a group of nice people who believed. They generally didn't want us to have anxiety or problems. That starts setting the stage, and sessions 8-12 finished the job.