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Yeah-that's it Abigail, thanks. Need to consider it better.

all in all it's just a 'nother brick in the wall -Pink Floyd hang in there outof whats those about no unclean person will inherit...all have sinned... ya know the other ones that count everyone out of life --- and they SLAPPED him again and said "which way did the spirit go"

And when God "created" man and woman. Was it a creation like something out of nothing or something from something or God himself living in the dust of the ground that breaths. So I don't think it's another Spirit but the same...diversified to show us how big He is...

I hope I didn't offend any Mothers here with what I said. I think both male and female qualities are in both sexes. And in God.

Jonny I didn't read this thread when you first posted it. But after reading it. It's one of the Greatest examples of a Father's Love that I have ever seen.

Good questions lindy Except God don't die.... Can't kill spirit Remember Adam and Eve? Yeah them... The first people around... Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. "the man is become as one of us" Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam ALL die, even so in Christ shall ALL be made alive. Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him. Something must still be living after we die... keep on questioning, man!

It's always right to love... You are a great example of that outofdafog.

lol karmicdept.... It's not a sin to have a fatass. Or a skinny one..lol What could be a sin is to drive people away from God by telling them that they are "possessed" or spiritually manipulated. When they DO NOT know what they are talking about. Have they ever faced a demon? Have they ever faced their own demons? If they did they wouldn't be talking about it on this forum-that's for sure. Consider Jesus and the love he showed...

God's love can overpower "sin". And yes homosexuality is a sin, but so are a lot of things. SO WHAT! And much many more worse sins are around then that. "years of observation and experience" And who has a better understanding of it? Perhaps taking a fresh look at it would help Trefor. From outside your own self and what you want. I can't give you or anyone answers. You have to see it for yourself. Tell you what-when we get to heaven there's neither male nor female.... Def-"But God's love does not call for accepting or tolerating sin" Noone is saying that Def. Talking about loving people.

This thread was started to find out where God's love is. If God is love then why.... And turned into a war one side against the other. Answers remain in the dark. Darkness doesn't blind people, light does. Look past the human element to find the Love you may be looking for. God's love goes beyond what you can see. And to love a homosexual has alluded most. We have seen on this thread a parents love for their children no matter what. How much bigger is God's love then this? And what can it do for us?

got it all figured out huh trefor sounds like the same things others say on the other side of the fence same attitude

Grew up in a small town And when the snow would fall down I’d just stare out my window Dreamin’ of what could be And if I’d end up happy I would pray Trying hard to reach out But when I tried to speak out Felt like no one could hear me Wanted to belong here But something felt so wrong here So I prayed I could break away I’ll spread my wings And I’ll learn how to fly I’ll do what it takes Till I touch the sky And I’ll make a wish, take a chance, make a change And break away Out of the darkness And into the sun But I won’t forget all the ones that I love I’ll take a risk, take a chance, make a change And break away Want to feel the warm breeze Sleep under a palm tree Feel the rush of the ocean Get on board a fast train Travel on a jet plane Far away and break away Buildings with a hundred floors Swinging round revolving doors Maybe I don’t know where they’ll take me but Gotta keep movin’ on movin’ on Fly away break away I’ll spread my wings And I’ll learn how to fly Though it’s not easy To tell you goodbye I gotta take a risk, take a chance make a change And break away Out of the darkness and into the sun But I won’t forget the place I come from I gotta take a risk, take a chance make a change And break away Breakaway (Kelly Clarkson)

Every night in my dreams I see you, I feel you, That is how I know you go on Far across the distance And spaces between us You have come to show you go on Near, far, wherever you are I believe that the heart does go on Once more you open the door And you're here in my heart And my heart will go on and on Love can touch us one time And last for a lifetime And never let go till we're one Love was when I loved you One true time I hold to In my life we'll always go on Near, far, wherever you are I believe that the heart does go on Once more you open the door And you're here in my heart And my heart will go on and on There is some love that will not go away You're here, there's nothing I fear, And I know that my heart will go on We'll stay forever this way You are safe in my heart And my heart will go on and on (Theme Song-Titanic)

I think it helped everyone involved more than we even realize at this moment. All I can come up with for now. It was a first for me and hopefully not the last. Love Always,

You know what could happen in reality today will most certainly come into reality one day. There's no getting around it... And to say or think that we have to wait for anything or certain things is taking a shot in the dark. Not knowing for sure that... to be purged by God passing from death to life seated in the heavenlies death destroyed the final victory over death could be a reality today... and maybe not in that order but a short listing of what Christ accomplished for us because he certainly did do it for us... in reality, in person here and now in this age

To turn our backs on love is to turn against God imo. Some say love is a bunch of yelling and stuff. Bunch of bs. Someone said it on this thread about going with the flow-can't remember who. But love is the one thing we should be able to count on. Too bad some don't see that because it is quite powerful and fulfilling.

Yeah...I know... We each take each others words and build from there. Surely God Himself is the wise master builder. Water boys and girls is all we are. And God gives the increase Himself. To put into words what we see in our minds is quite the task....

cool post Danny, that one was tripping me up for a while thanks for the help on it!

edited-so as not to offend sorry to leave u hanging Jonny and Garth well now i've pulled the whole thing down not making a diff anyway i've deleted more would be posts then i've posted recently...

I fail to see how it helps anyone to say that they are possessed or spritually manipulated when they have not faced a "demon/angel" themselves. To say this about someone is just plain ignorance of the spritual forces which are rooted in the Father of spirits. And I'm not talking about homosexuality either. It takes A Lot of Love to cut through the crap. It takes courage and the heart of God to go toe to toe and eye to eye with an angel of darkness.

Paw-it seems the link in the first post on this thread is the only way to get to change the password. Is there another way? control panel doesn't seem to have anything. guess could save the link to favorites or something

Yeah....Mark... Same page, same planet, same God There is only one God ya know.... Angels and Humans together.. I'm not ready to go there yet. But we each have our angels... Sunesis-good points The wheat and the tares are in the same ground though. It's takes an excellent farmer to be able to separate the two from it's roots, without damaging the wheat.

interpretation is an interesting word study Ok here's the advanced class- Proverbs 1:1 The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel; 2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding; 3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity; 4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion. 5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: 6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings. Class over...but continues each day...... no membership required...don't have to belong to any religion

A valiant effort to put into black and white, Mark. Certainly quite a task. I think He'll go after the root of the problems though. In other words, the old testament Law was there to deal with people in more of a control your mind type thing for then. (Not saying mind control) Because of the consequences that would happen then and in the future. Christ is the end of the Law for all. New and old testament people. But there has to be a standard in which to purify a soul. And rid of our selves of all this crap that will not be needed or wanted in the New Heavens and Earth. Luke 3:9 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Like I mentioned I believe he will go after the root of the problems in each of us. And we each are going to see it happen in our own lives. Hell for some, more hell for others, and even less for others. As Hebrews says-God deals with us as sons. Each individual will be dealt with on their own merits. And He does know how to handle a heart without breaking it. If you take the scriptures alone and try to figure it out, I doubt if anyone can come up with exactly how God will handle it. A book cannot contain it all. But speaking of the book. Here's a quick class on interpreting the bible. Genesis 40:8b And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? Ok-class over. :D--> It's in God's hands to show us the interpretation of His words. So much of it is hidden in plain sight.

Some need to be anonymous for various reasons. As you probably know. But it all sounds good to me. I plan on being there.