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I want to in no way justify wierwilles actions. But to see it as it was and is today. But rather to see it from how it took place. To see as it was and is. This would certainly make us wiser. Clearing of ourselves. And washing the filth of it all down the drain to once again know the love that passeth knowledge. The lenght, height depth and width of it within ourselves. Because it is there within. Trust not in the flesh of anyone-not even yourself. You will know the word of life when you see it. No man will need to teach it to you as promised for those in the new testament. To out grow the old testament in our minds and to see from the spirit is what Galations is talking about. Separating the flesh from the spirit happens from within you by the spirit of God. It cannot be discerned with the fleshly mind. Many say the same things but with different motives and spiritual influence. We must go to the Lord and inquire. The scriptures help but will not bring to your mind the things you need to see. Only the spirit can...the Lord himself and his coming now and in this day and time. Putting away the past to see that christ. It don't all happen at once. Common sense will lead the way to a greater spiritual understanding. May the God of peace and love be with you always. Love kills and makes alive that which you've always wanted in the first place.

If we could just take this succer apart. And see it from outside of ourselves and what we lost from our experience with twi and it's evil and it's good. I know you have lost much rascal, God knows it and has things for you. He is just. You are not unnoticed. If in this life only we have hope-might as well forget it. There's more than meets the eye, more that God has in store for you than even your imagination can reach. F- vpw and twi. Step outside of yourself and of their influence and to see the sources of the evil and the good brings much peace and light. It takes a lot I know. That which powered it. That which took place. To nail that succer, bury it in a deep grave, never to be seen again. To be burned out of our minds with it's pain. Not forgotten in this life but most certainly gone forever in the next. Gone in this life will be that which has held us back from what God has for us Now. Then we can use the words that we avoided and restricted ourselves from using because they used them. And to open up the love of God again, the love of the Father and the spirit. To see the Christ in yourself that they robbed you from seeing. Love Always

i think the guy stumbled across some real truth but perverted it to his own end what actually happened in India? why did he stop us from seeing what he himself saw misinterpreted what he saw-applied it to himself only selfishness, ego, greed, madness turned to hatred rather then patience he jumped at every chance to promote himself which leads down the wrong road into the state of being past feeling-no love of God-just a front...

interesting that Paul would say "according to my gospel" came across this- In the development of the first century church there were two gospels. The first gospel was that of the apostle Peter and the eleven other apostles. The second gospel was that of the apostle Paul and others who were, in time, raised up to teach this gospel with Paul. It seems to this author that the simplest and most effective manner in which to communicate this subject is to list corresponding differences in these two gospels with a concluding commentary. Peter’s gospel was a reiteration of all Jesus said and did while in the world. It is reinforced by the Holy Spirit through its gift to those who believe. Paul’s gospel was a revelation from the ascended Lord seated at the right hand of the Father. Peter’s gospel is the foundation for the household of God. Paul’s gospel is the edifice of the household of God. Peter’s gospel is a continuation from the beginning when man was made a living soul. Paul’s gospel has its beginnings before the foundations of the world in the mystery of the Spirit of Christ. Peter’s gospel holds the keys to the kingdom of God. Paul’s gospel reveals the kingdom of God. Peter’s gospel is one of entrance. Paul’s gospel is one of establishment. Peter’s gospel ministers to the children coming into the family of God. Paul’s gospel brings the children of God unto maturity. Peter’s gospel raised Paul up unto the revelation from Jesus Christ. Peter’s foundational gospel was preached by Paul when he first went into a new area to establish a church. Before Peter relinquished the principle of law in exchange for faith, he resisted Paul’s revelation. Paul’s gospel was never preached by Peter. In one of his two epistles written near the end of his life on the future entrance into the kingdom, Peter supports the validity of Paul’s ministry. Under Paul’s ministration these two gospels came together as the one contiguous gospel for the growth of the household of God. Commentary: In the epistle to the Ephesians, Paul makes evident the sources of these two gospels. In Ephesians 2:20 he writes to the faithful in Christ Jesus: And (ye) are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone. The in Ephesians 3:4,5 he writes: Whereby when you read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ, which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets. Paul used words very purposefully. Notice this difference between verses 2:20 and 3:5. The foundation came from apostles and prophets while the mystery was revealed to “holy” apostles and prophets. There is a difference between “apostles and prophets” and “holy apostles and prophets.” Understanding this difference leads to the revelation of the great mystery given to the apostle Paul. (plagiarized)

when God created man and woman in his own image before woman was taken out of man it was Christ the son of God "before Abraham I was" said the Christ when did it split apart and why? the results are "bringing many sons to glory"

better said then i did timid because of something new maybe but it's nothing new-just people talking new to those who were in twi for sure we were so isolated, even from each other

fear enslaving those who could be there i suppose...just guessing... a different way of thinking that would go against that which has been ingrained and bred into us from life and most especially twi's bs teachings has anyone had any real spiritual experiences? sure-we think we did but was it just mind games? did we actually see God as Jesus promised the pure in heart could? has the Comforter come to bring to remembrance the words of Jesus and those Holy men and women? there is the face of Christ in each of us how do we see it? it is done alone but together with those who know when jesus left in acts he said he would come back do you really want him to or are you just happy with what you have already figured out what and who he is? can you let the Lord show you? doctrines of men...that's all we were taught the toungues of angels-who can hear them? a few words in the tougues of men will not give life-life giving words are from people in the here and now-not some book it cannot be found in pfal too many road blocks do we remember our first love? of God...his love...it lived in our minds can you hear what the angels have to say to the churches? to you?

The topic was "where is God" which led to many questions and possible answers for some when 2 or 3 are gathered... at least a different perspective then the same old tired crap we learned in twi.. did we really learn anything about where God is in twi? No

Some think it'll be like the ole way meetings maybe. But it's not like that at all. Everyone can speak, you don't have to be "likeminded". Yeah, are people seeking truth? Good question. Some are happy with their carnal thinking, rather then building upon spiritual insight that is within them. Taking the bible at face value and only understanding it from the surface is carnal thinking. We have to go deeper to see truth. I'll be there Todd. 12 central is 1 eastern

amen Roy loving each other is loving God... past the flesh into real love

As sand thru the hour glass so are the days of our lives wait a sec-different story.. :)--> ok-here's some links on things made http://educate.si.edu/resources/lessons/si...llen/start.html http://koning.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/Plants_Hum...ollenadapt.html http://koning.ecsu.ctstateu.edu/Plants_Hum...ollenadapt.html http://school.discovery.com/lessonplans/pr...lc-butterflies/ http://www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/gpe/index.html thought that may apply remotely...

1. Jainism (100%) 2. Mahayana Buddhism (95%) 3. Hinduism (92%) 4. Unitarian Universalism (91%) 5. Neo-Pagan (86%) 6. Liberal Quakers (84%) 7. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (83%) 8. Bahá'í Faith (81%) 9. Theravada Buddhism (80%) 10. Orthodox Quaker (76%) 11. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (71%) 12. New Age (70%) 13. New Thought (68%) 14. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (66%) 15. Taoism (64%) 16. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (63%) 17. Jehovah's Witness (60%) 18. Orthodox Judaism (60%) 19. Sikhism (58%) 20. Seventh Day Adventist (55%) 21. Reform Judaism (53%) 22. Scientology (53%) 23. Islam (51%) 24. Secular Humanism (41%) 25. Eastern Orthodox (35%) 26. Roman Catholic (35%) 27. Nontheist (28%) I know ya'll think I'm crazy now! lol :D--> hmmm, no southern redneck in there, lol

who cares=speak up whenever you want not mind your own business mick opened the business up i think... if ex didn't care she wouldn't have said anything

That's a darn shame that twi and these splinter groups have such control over their congregation. That they cannot speak freely. So you might get some heat from them or those who post here. So what. I get heat all the time. I wish some of these people would start posting again. Like what's the problem, can't handle a different point of view? What's so wrong about thinking differently? Welcome to the world!

Yes, the particulars of redemption. Overall the topic of Romans seems to be righteousness. Starting with the invisible things of Genesis. And understanding the things that are made. chapter 1 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse And ending with the mystery which I think are connected. chapter 16 25Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 27To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen. Which is further expounded on in Ephesians.

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I'm sorry song, Something just rubbed me the wrong way... peace

forget it, i got nothing else to say to you at this point...

Song Why do you attack every word I say? Got a problem with me, e-mail me. WTF is up man...I'm ready for ya..

i hear ya song... Even if Jesus really didn't go to parts of the east, Jerusalem was still a mega trade center to the east and would have had all the influence of those eastern religions. I think of those wise men that came from the east to see Jesus, while the scripture gurus of Jerusalem knew nothing about it. And Moses, who he learned from. Western Christianity is so limited in it's thinking....

are you thinking trefor? modern times? pffft.. f modern times...

i think Paul is addressing each individual as a whole spiritual being that they should break away from the "law" of death into the law of life within Christ Jesus for when the law was alive i died-but the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us free from the law of death which does not say do as you please but rather live to god in newness of life

you're so right Danny, much better then morbid and serious..

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Nice post Tom. And Jesus saw this for real. because it is real... It wasn't his imagination. I think of the mount of transfiguration in light of this. Wonder how many times Jesus went there in his mind - to see it...