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like it or not we will die we are dieing now all the healing of our physical bodies is temporary, anything that plolongs life will end so there must be something else more worthy of our attention

i can understand your feelings Roy in many ways we do not fall short at all credit must be given where credit is due seek to edify look for open doors exhort comfort, identify hunger listen learn grow words are the super highway we must be careful how we use them thoughts...images... put into words... they will be there noone is above anyone else wash the feet

i would think the body of Christ would be in reference to a more enduring body, or entity, or substance. Not this temporal mortal fleshly carnal being. But that which transcends, that which is transformed into what will live forever. The body of Christ reminds me of the many references to the Son of man. That which transcends the individual yet is an individual experience that puts us as part of a whole. a more enduring substance not made with hands but that which is within us all as the references to the Son of man is more than a reference to Jesus But to the Christ from the beginning it has been with us seldom even noticed, but it is as real as it gets..just becomes clearer and more brilliant signs happen mj, you don't have to look for them you will know them when you see them.. without warning...they will appear no need to look for them a quiet peaceful heart will perhaps not even need them But the sign of the son of Man descending and ascending can be seen when looking for it don't fear but learn.. that deep heart of love, of gold is within this is our way, this is the way...

I wonder what Adam read....

an encrypted message the unknown God the unheard truth the unseen Spirit layed out quite plainly we've heard it and seen it who can interpret it? how can it be untangled.... wisdom crieth in the streets his words are there the body of Christ..... and should this Christ come would we be ready? to see what has not been seen to hear what has not been heard that which has been-is

personalities of sheep and goats aside.. JC said they hear his voice and follow, they are herded, so to speak, by words, and follow those words the book, the epistle of the heart opens follow...think about, consider, recognize, and lose the fear of taking a small step in his direction and fasten your seatbelt it happens in the mind takes time.... a building up a twinkling of an eye searching, undoing, rebuilding a sound mind...that can hear... listening for and to these words these words will be recognized cause it does apply today imo He's talking in many ways i believe i don't think he's ever stopped talking.... peace...love...a sound mind it's there in us some are not looking some search and find some follow but don't see some search, find, see, and follow then comes the stewardship love is the compass love got you there... joy, peace, gentleness patience, temperance, meekness... it's an uncharted map for you but he's still leading fear not cause he will never leave or forsake you he never has.... even when it feels like he has... hope-the anchor of the soul faith unleashed...slowly at times fast as lightning before the thunder too i think it's so much bigger then this little set of words....

beyond your expectations and more so much so it's unbelievable rich, pure, hot everything you ever imagined and more hidden within these beautiful people waiting to explode into reality to reach out and touch the face of God, it's an arms length away behind each breath out of reach yet within reach His Glory is us our hopes our dreams expectations of expectations

upon reflection... I don't think JC distinguished the sheep between the goats anyway not as people from people... 31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. allegorical and figurative more related to the heart of a person we do so many things that will be on the right... some on the left...

the sheep follow the goats are dragged no separation the sheep are ready for whatever the goats are blindsided our god is one there's no escape He started it, He will finish it... not to worry though-god is love....

thanks for the posts folks.... i been in other places recently and haven't returned yet but will... the truth comes together in the mind with or without a book and mostly without books are for learning close them and graduate into letting it come together sirg...thanks... song...yes...turns every-EVERY way something to see when we see things in other people Danny-you help me beyond what i know i think Roy...cool post Love to all Always and Forever i will cruise thru again soon....

Ready to talk some Mike? email me if you want...

Like sailing. You can only harness some of the wind-and it's always changing directions. Always adjusting yet confident that it's there...

I tell ya what's so ****ing funny is that there is some real truth in pfal and Mike can't even find it he's so blind. All that studying and still he couldn't even find a bone if God threw one his way! So tell us about Heaven Mike. What have you seen there hmmm? Have you seen yourself yet? Nah, your too blinded by greed and lust and yourself. If you even had a sliver of what vp might have seen in his early days you might even be dangerous. But no....you still remain in your ignorant plight of uselessness. Go ahead stay there. Refuse what has been offered to you. Be a damn fool. And don't even act like you don't know what I'm talking about either. I've had enough of your lies.

Yeah....rascal.... Personally after I left I wanted to find out why it didn't work. Cause I know there is a God. It's been quite an adventure and continues to be. It's been very enlightening. Don't trust anyone, only consider. Common sense and the Christ inside will do the rest. George, ya know - no matter what you think, I still think you are a good guy. No matter what one believes, ultimately it will lead to God. Cause there is only one God the Creater... Love Always

Whatever was in PFAL that was truth worked because of the heart of the one working it. And they had to use more then what PFAL offered (which was very little). It was the hearts and love of the men and women who loved the one true God that brought deliverance to people. Not what was written in the books and magazines. Whatever truth Vpw got from God, anyone else can too without spending their life trying to find the answers in dead men's books. Same with Paul or the others. Your time in the writings would be better served in learning from those who are alive and have experienced the truth first hand. Because the Word of Life will come from a live person. Not from a book or magazine. But you have refused to give the ones that you know have answers and chose the words of a dead man who cannot correct your ignorance. How convenient for you. You serve yourself and long to be greater then VPW in this very same thing. Perhaps you should try smoking and drinking a lot since you haven't gotten to the women yet.

here's an online one with a lot of stuff- http://bible.crosswalk.com/index.cgi

The wisdom of the world compared to the wisdom of christ. Wisdom that is beyond wisdom. Truth that cuts 2 ways. To reject a religous belief is not wise. Incorparate it into the mind of Christ. Critacal thinking as compared to what-spiritual? Yes Def critical thinking has it's place but cannot be relyed on for truth. It leads to truth by common sense. The truth is and will fit within common sense. The truth is beyond critical thinking.

Noone is above anyone else. We stand on equal footing. Jesus Christ the chief cornerstone. Without him we would be nothing. Knowledge puffeth up but love edifies.

Some of the things I saw in the scriptures didn't agree with what was being taught by twi. As it turns out those things seem to have stood the test of time. And not only that but further strenghtened and expanded as the years go by.

I ain't afraid to put my thoughts out there. I don't care if I get attacked. Even if one person holds a candle of light in my direction in the midst of such adversity, I believe I just might be able to see it. So for me it's worth a shot to put my heart on the line.

What does this have to do with the subject Def. You want to talk about his death and what it meant and means and what happened because of it. Come on lets talk. Jesus of the flesh is dead. His soul and spirit is alive. Too much for you? He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Our soul and spirit will live on also. The dead are alive. The dust will return to dust.

He is Abigail, He is. But without a multitude of counselors a person will soon be lost. It's a together thing, noone is alone in this.. Unless they choose to be then the trouble begins like in VPW's case. A person who saw some truth but refused to put it to the test with others who also are being instructed by the Lord Himself. Yeah afraid to see that there may be more, Bigger wider deeper truths to be seen rather then the small inkling of light that passed his way. Like some one said on another forum. Submit your cake into the cake contest. And see what other cakes have that yours does not.

Anyone remember how thrilling it was to see things in the scripture that they never saw before? Does everyone think those days are over with? Just think if the Lord Himself was showing you the scriptures. Would your heart burn within you? Or would you think that it's just another scam... It's saddening that I see so little interest in the truth anymore...noone even at least taking a look... I suppose I understand a bit-so much abuse of people. So little love. Remember I was there too...

not trying to be a smartass in my last post abigail... :)--> just a poor joke... seems there ain't too many interested in this stuff anymore. at one time many were, I still am though...

the fear of being naked ever present from Adam on but to tap into the unseen and experience the open relatonship that exists precludes the willingness to hide behind false fronts of the flesh and open up a new perspective and understanding such is the fear of openness