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Garth, seems as though you are looking at anyone who believes in spiritual realities as believing in what twi taught, and further you will not give anyone a chance to be seen as being broken out of that shell and actually have some answers regarding the spirit. You are always throwing twi dogma into the faces of those who do not hold their views, but you take what is said turn it into twi doctrine to attack it rather then consider what is really being talked about. Seems to me you are seeing thru twi glasses still. I got your point a long time ago. Mental illness and the things you listed are physical and spiritual. And if you would talk to a PROFESSIONAL, he\she would say the same thing. Life is SPIRITUAL or there would not be LIFE.

good link Oakspear i often ask myself that's me talking to me whatever that is and who the me's are....lol how does the spirit work the wind blows in so many directions i've seen it work and still i wonder... and as far as demon possession it is apparently a reality if one reads and believes what it says about them in the bible but what is the source of this where does it come from as well as the spirit of god are they actually the same yet the colors are changed? consider the one delivered that all marveled that he was sitting and in his right mind what is that - in his right mind? what was removed or "blown" away this is not a lite subject and can be taken too literal i hope noone is caught up in to a confusing state of mind

not trying to be tricky or deceitful or to catch anyone in their words but lets THINK and see what it is that you or me is and have come to be why some are this way and some are that way not talking about possession but just in general even animals have different personalities eccl 3:21Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? the scriptures even say the animals have spirit and i don't buy the breakdown in RTHST book consider the over 500 uses of the word spirit and even more of the word breath which is the same word i think as well as wind here's one and another eccl 8:6Because to every purpose there is time and judgment, therefore the misery of man is great upon him. 7For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be? 8There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it. eccl 11: 5As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all. so possession...hmmmmm i see caught away in the spirit the spirit led me and i was in the spirit the spirit came upon me and things like this that are godly so devil spirits or demons do they work in the same sort of manner? or is there a different twist to it i'm of course a lot more interested in the godly but seeing how the ungodly wind blows too

thanks for the replys, templelady said "your physical body is taken over by another entity" isn't this true anyway cause it's not the other way around usually in physically healthy people. in other words, isn't something there that has taken over anyway? our wills our loves our hates our desires our passions what is this entity? soul?.....spirit?...... who is this me that is me? the i that is in charge of i?

hey fellow eagle! pictures anyway i think this idea and the many that go with it from twi should be reevaluated as well as the other things i mean they screwed us in so many things seems this one shouldn't be excluded fron examination and could shed some positive light on the things we really want to know

i do appreciate your response Garth something apparently unseen right unseen but perceived which means it is seen it is seen when we perceive it or see it

twi reminds me of Simon the sorcerer who bewitched people if you can relate to that it's somewhat similar imo

jkb-i think your intentions are to impart different perspectives nothing meant to harm or hurt there is various perspectives to be seen a wide range of seeing that has not been seen truly there is a vast universe to explore

speak from the heart and try not to cry....

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there were no healings done by "devil spirits" in the bible this is a misunderstanding and a deep subject... heart is where it's at

what does that really mean? mind pictures vary widely on this subjrct as do opinions but really, what is it talking about?

great posts ya know it's funny that i kinda think forgiveness is revenge from the many ways of seeing it and what happens during and after forgiveness like an awakening to new things

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you really are quite a piece of work Mike what a disgrace and shame to say something like this

i can also add that if it were not for VPW i might not be where i am today could be worse or could be better don't know, don't care much anymore but this is the choices i made some on my own and some i was manipulated life i guess i'm thankful that God is the only wise and that the Lord Jesus Christ is at his right hand and that the Holy Spirit still is alive and well doing what it has been doing since the beginning

i'll try cool, not many will hear...

pass some of that over here will ya :)

and David was praying for his LIFE when he said take not thy holy spirit like Stephen in acts who gave up the spirit and died never understood by VPW and many others as well people received the gift of holy spirit all over the bible where did it come from? from which direction does it COME? it is within as a seed, a sprout, and without and within IN THE AIR

let's start with how vp separated spirit from adam which is not scripturally based and is not true then separate Israel from everyone else in the world God's chosen people, yes, why? to bring forth the savior the savior of THE WHOLE WORLD not just those that believe but especially those that believe as it says in timothy let's further separate people with believer verses unbeliever no such word "unbeliever" used in the bible unbelieverS is but it is not to be used as a separation tool just like "fools" is used but it says to call noone a fool infidel is used in timothy but unbelievers are also praised for taking care of their families more then the believers and how many times Jesus praised the FAIth of those who were not Israel? let's even go further with our separation and division by adding the phrase and term "out of fellowship", another non scripture based teaching more separation-Abraham had two sons these were separated as God's people verses the devil's not true, but more of God's plan of redeeming all of mankind All of this separation and wars was for one purpose to bring forth the Messiah the Lord Jesus Christ NOT to separate people from people VPW saw this in India in part when he healed that man He saw that God is no respector of persons and it was confirmed on the train when that other man blessed him for blessing all of God's people It wasn't long after that that VPW turned from this great truth and went deep into separating people with all of this teaching from Adam on let's separate the believers also by using the 5 gift ministries and place them above everyone else further let's call Peter the first leader of the church and then Paul as the leader of the church neither one is true there is no leader of the church the Lord Jesus Christ is PERIOD but no not according to VPW he had to have the power and control which of course leads to abuse let's also separate the gospels, the old testament and Revelations out of our lives and use them to illustrate separation again and not only that but permanent death for many death and destroy was never understood by VPW he never even got that far the church-not understood by VPW ever to further strengthen his position VPW writes books on how to receive the holy spirit he is totally lost on this one and Are The Dead Alive Now-yes they are you can't kill soul or spirit even those before the flood were preached to by Jesus Christ and a whole bunch of teachings and books to further his position his position being one of scriptural racism, division and hatred these are some of the lies that VPW puked on us he was eating his own vomit and puking it on us he got a glimpse and taste of the truth and turned away and became worse then before it is recorded history now for those who open their eyes i suppose i could go on but this is nothing new it's been done by many

i don't waste my time on fools

Mike, you do err not knowing the scriptures or the power of God

and why do you insist that a written anything is authority perhaps you don't understand what it is saying maybe you have to start from a different source to understand the multiple writings that are available to read

why does something have to be bigger then you to serve it i serve people at work but they are not bigger then me where do you get this idea from why do you insist on it it says my thoughts are higher then your thoughts does that make it bigger? what is bigger then you mike? you will be the same size that you serve no bigger no smaller you are limited to yourself you will not be able to go any further then your own mind there is nothing bigger then you for you your vain imaginations have gotten you no where close to the potential that is dormant within you you claim that "dr" has the revelation to follow you don't even know what you are saying "dr" spit in the face of his "revelations" will you do the same when the time comes? cuz it will mike kicking and screaming you may protest but you will die the death you are no exception you probably don't even know what i'm talking about no matter you will know soon enough

why is this a question? is it biblical? where are your reasonings for this? chapter and verse please or just what you may think got the time for an answer mike?