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but let's see there is God who Said in the beginning which takes breath which is Spirit and Jesus who became one with God one with Christ the Son of Man

kind of hard to turn the pages with boxing gloves on

1st usage Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. Genesis 12:7 And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him. 1 Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ

furthermore Job is an allegory amazing the the similar things of Job and Jesus yeah well he was wrong...lol

because this is what vp used to prove his points on believing

and maybe you want to bring up Job-lol you are in over your head on Job

noone's fear will kill anyone period

The "law of believing" is Wierwille's twist on positive/negative confession. The Way followers' own faith will cause whatever they believe (good or bad) to come true. Wierwille even claimed that a boy's death in an automobile accident was actually caused by his mother's fear that he may be hurt (Power for Abundant Living, pp. 37-44).

I'd be willing to bet my pickup truck that this grad researcher didn't think you would go to these ideas of yours and their obvious failing grade of common sense and true biblical research. Nor did he think you would be obsessed to the point of having to have an inept ability and insane approach to comprehend the facts and truths concerning the books. And your conversations with the management of GSC are most likely obscured by the same lack of reason thinking. ----- Wierwille was including us all in his statements about being God's spokesman. The scriptures bear witness to this truth. If Wierwille was just talking about himself then he is setting himself apart from the rest of us and making God a respecter of persons. He in no way equals what was revealed to Paul either. There is no new administration with the teachings of Wierwille and how you have turned them to suit your own purpose or lack of purpose. What Paul taught was in the scriptures all along, hidden until God revealed it to him. Just as it is for everyone else. And not only revealing of the scriptures but even more then the scriptures can hold. An actual seeing of the truth. You Mike, are trying to separate yourself out as the deliverer of this message and put yourself above everyone else as some sort of apostle. You cannot even begin to see what one is. This is what's happening in part. Having not the Spirit, it is not in operation, dormant, dead. 19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. this could even be Wierwille. This is what to do in part...and what some of us are trying to do for you Mike. 20But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, 21Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. 22And of some have compassion, making a difference: 23And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. 24Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, 25To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

lol...such a funny fellow you are..

aaahhh-i didn't answer your question? how many questions have you not answered? btw-thanks for the God of the world compliment

no doom about it this is something you should want the change that is talked about in the bible

Take note that you will not escape his wrath or His mercy Love and grace.... You promote lies as if they were the truth and try to catch people to use them for your own means it will not last and you will see it again.... and i'll talk anyway i see fit to talk thank you very much

not interested in you respecting me or trusting me there is only one to trust and respect and that is who you should fear

already have a few times you don't want to know what i know that's for sure nor do you want the truth and that's the truth

you don't know nothing about what i remember you dumbass pfffttt, act like you know people you don't know you don't know nothing

blind faith is a term i don't understand cuz there is an idea or concept that is the subject believing without seeing-without seeing what? it is seen in the mind a gut feeling intuition a sense of something thoughts that are believed to be true reason supports faith imo cuz reason is seen also in the mind and this grows and builds

219 "the Lord said" 46 "God said" 4 "God saith" then you have the Spirit talking too might want to quit worshiping idols

there's 415 in the King James "thus saith the Lord" 879 "saith the Lord"

lol...

http://www.wcg.org/lit/bible/gospels/john1010.htm John 10:10 — The Abundant Life Many preachers quote John 10:10 as support for the idea that Christianity leads to physical prosperity and "every good thing." The verse has been used as a description of the Christian life, the normative pattern of life that Christians can expect because of God's blessings. Other scriptures, including the salutation of 3 John 2, "I wish above all things that you prosper and be in good health," are also used to teach that Christians are promised health and wealth if they have enough faith. However, the New Testament usually emphasizes a radically different result of following Christ. We are told that we will be persecuted, that Christ's message is divisive, that we will need to take up our cross and follow him, that the normative expectation for Christian is suffering. Job promotions, new cars, and throwing away crutches are not among the fringe benefits offered by Jesus Christ. 3 John 2 appears as a part of the introductory comments of the letter, and it was meant specifically for a man named Gaius. It was simply part of the polite way to begin a letter in those days, and similar greetings are found in other ancient writings. One manual of letter writing explains that this the is appropriate was to begin a letter. Someone today might begin a letter by saying, "I hope that this letter finds you in good health." It is not meant as a promise. Likewise, 3 John 2 should not be used as a promise that God applies to all his people. This scripture does not guarantee that Gaius, or any other Christians, will be rich or that they will never suffer from sickness or disease. And in order to understand what John 10:10 means, we need to look at its context. Chapter 10 of John's Gospel develops the biblical theme of sheep and the shepherd. The shepherd is accessible to the sheep. Strangers do not have a personal relationship with the flock, but the good shepherd does. Verse 10 draws the contrast between Jesus and false shepherds, the thieves who come to kill, steal and destroy. John 20:31 describes the purpose of this Gospel. Speaking of the miracles and signs, John says, "But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name." The New International Commentary on the New Testament comments, Life is one of John's characteristic concepts. He uses the term 36 times, whereas no other New Testament writing has it more than 17 times (this is Revelation; next comes Romans with 14 times, and 1 John 13 times). Thus in this one writing there occur more than a quarter of all the New Testament references to life. "Life" in John characteristically refers to eternal life (see on 3:15), the gift of God through His Son. Here, however, the term must be taken in its broadest sense. It is only because there is life in the Logos that there is life in anything on earth at all." (John, page 82). The Expositor's Bible Commentary says this about John 10:10: Jesus' main purpose was the salvation (health) of the sheep, which he defined as free access to pasture and fullness of life. Under his protection and by his gift they can experience the best life can offer. In the context of John's emphasis on eternal life, this statement takes on new significance. Jesus can give a whole new meaning to living because he provides full satisfaction and perfect guidance. Barclay's Daily Study Bible adds, Jesus claims that he came that men might have life and might have it more abundantly. The Greek phrase used for having it more abundantly means to have a superabundance of a thing. To be a follower of Jesus, to know who he is and what he means, is to have a superabundance of life. A Roman soldier came to Julius Caesar with a request for permission to commit suicide. He was a wretched dispirited creature with no vitality. Caesar looked at him. "Man," he said, "were you ever really alive?" When we try to live our own lives, life is a dull, dispirited thing. When we walk with Jesus, there comes a new vitality, a superabundance of life. It is only when we live with Christ that life becomes really worth living and we begin to live in the real sense of the word. In its volume on John, the Tyndale New Testament Commentaries summarizes the passage that leads up to John 10:10: Those who are really "His own" listen to His voice. They recognize that He has been sent from God, and are ready to follow Him as the good Shepherd, who by His sacrificial love rescues His flock from evil and death, and leads them into the best of all pasturage where they can enjoy a richer and a fuller life (9,10). He does not offer them an extension of physical life nor an increase of material possessions, but the possibility, nay the certainty, of a life lived at a higher level in obedience to God's will and reflecting His glory. In summary, John 10:10 should not be used as though it gives some promise of an improved physical life for the Christian. Such a view, in light of the context, is shallow, and it overlooks the profound truth of the passage. The passage promises superior, superabundant spiritual life, life empowered by the indwelling of Jesus Christ. Because Christians "have" Jesus Christ, because he lives within them, they have the riches of the superabundant life. This is what Paul meant when he said he counted all things loss, that he might win Christ. John 10:10 promises a spiritual dimension to life, not physical abundance. A focus on the physical trivializes the profound depth of John 10:10. Copyright 2000 Worldwide Church of God John 10:10 As the Good Shepherd, Jesus died for earth's sinners, who like sheep have gone astray. Good, as used here, means more than having goodness in a physical sense but also having an excellent nature (Exodus 33:19-20). It signifies what is morally beautiful, noble, and true (Exodus 34:6-7). Christ's use of the word in this parable implies that He perfects all godly attributes in others; He is the Good Shepherd who manifests the characteristics of perfect goodness. He guides and supports His sheep, and sacrifices Himself for them. His benevolence exceeds all others (Psalm 31:19). Martin G. Collins The Parable of the Good Shepherd (Part One) Related Topics: John 10:10 What does He mean by "life . . . more abundantly"? A problem arises when discussing this concept due to the apparent subjectivity of the term "abundant." What is abundant living for one person may be absolutely unsatisfying for another. A hard-charging, A-type businessman—into exotic vacations, sports cars, and rock climbing—would not consider a rocking chair on the porch, a vegetable garden out back, and a weekly round of golf at the local course to be fulfilling, yet they would probably suit a retired senior citizen just fine. One person's bowl of cherries is another's bowl of cherry pits. The Greek word Jesus uses in John 10:10 to describe the kind of life He came to teach His disciples is perissón, meaning "superabundant," "superfluous," "overflowing," "over and above a certain quantity," "a quantity so abundant as to be considerably more than what one would expect or anticipate." In short, He promises us a life far better than we could ever envision, reminiscent of I Corinthians 2:9, "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him" (see Isaiah 64:4). Paul informs us that God "is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think" (Ephesians 3:20). However, before we begin to have visions of palatial homes, classic automobiles, around-the-world trips, and wads of pocket money, we need to step back and consider what God says comprises "life." Once we determine His view of living, we will have a better grasp of what kind of blessings we can expect as Christ's disciples. All we need to do is glance around at our and our brethren's situations to know that wealth, prestige, position, and power in this world are not high-priority items on God's list of blessings (I Corinthians 1:26-29). In terms of economic, academic, and social strata, most of us come from the lower and middle classes, and we tend to remain in a situation similar to the one in which we were called (compare I Corinthians 7:20-24). Perhaps the most telling biblical definition of life—particularly eternal life—is uttered by Jesus Himself in John 17:3: "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." Note that this definition makes no mention of length of days, health, prosperity, family, occupation—in fact, the only thing it does mention is knowing God! What can we take from this? » God is not overly concerned with the physical circumstances of our lives. It is enough that He assures us that we need not worry about what we will eat or wear (Matthew 6:25-32; Philippians 4:19). » Eternal life, the kind of life in which a Christian is truly interested, is not determined by duration but by a relationship with God. This is why, once we are converted and impregnated with the gift of the Holy Spirit, we are said to have eternal life already (I John 5:11-13), though not, of course, in its fullness. » Eternal life—the life God offers us through Jesus Christ and His teaching—is thus about quality, not quantity. Put another way, the abundant life is life as God lives it (Ezekiel 33:10-11; I Peter 2:21; I John 2:6), for once we truly come to know God, we will desire to emulate Him. » Physical blessings, then, may or may not be byproducts of God's way of life; neither our wealth nor our poverty is a sure indication of our standing with God. Certainly, God desires that we "prosper in all things and be in health" (III John 2), but the bottom line is "I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth" (verse 4), not that we live like royalty. » Finally, a Christian's life revolves around, as Peter puts it, "grow[ing] in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" (II Peter 3:18). This suggests that the abundant life is a process of learning, practicing, and maturing, as well as failing, recovering, adjusting, enduring, and overcoming because, in our present state, "we see in a mirror, dimly" (I Corinthians 13:12). As humans, we are naturally oriented toward material things, but as Christians, our perspective must change. Paul admonishes, "Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. For you died [in baptism], and your life is hidden with Christ in God" (Colossians 3:2-3). To us, life—and our perception of abundant life—is a whole new ballgame! Richard T. Ritenbaugh Are You Living the Abundant Life? Related Topics: from http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction...CGG/version/KJV

not one word from the heart to give without thought of yourself mike where is the edification? where is the real love of God? why will you not discuss the scriptures? even the ones in the books? you want this to be a war of empty words empty of anything that will help anyone John 10:10 was brought up right off and you have nothing you blame everyone else except yourself for your problem

http://hem.fyristorg.com/fubbe1/Don%20Henl...of%20Summer.mp3 hinga binga didly do crank it up

here you go johniam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research i know a few real researchers vpw was not one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Searc...fulltext=Search some of these are biased http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...blical+research

back to who originated the content of pfal instead of looking at what is in it can't even take on one verse mike? yeah..thought so-when it's believed there is the power of the only wise God