CoolWaters

Now you're being just plain silly! :P--> :P--> :P--> :P-->

Roy, I've thought and thought and thought about this every since you posed the question. I just can't come up with anything I'd bother to say to them. Of course, most of the people I had something to say to are either out or have died...and for those who are out and still live, I've said what I wanted to say. There are only 2 people that I know of who are still in that I'd love to get alone in a dark alley...but that's not talking...that's taking care of business.

You're welcome, Roy. Figured there had to be a decent scepter for the King...whenever we find out who it is.

Hey! Trefor! Who let you decide it was a republic? Huh? You make way too much sense to even be in the land of Silly, dude. I, for one, refuse to be governed by a sensible gentleman such as yourself. Gimme a foolish clown King!!!!!!!!

Hey Roy.... Whaddya think about this as the Silly King's scepter?:

Abigail, Thank you for posting this information. Many things that I have embraced in the last couple of years...well, I've wondered if it was all just insanity on my part, or if it's all been a lesson. These two things: "There comes a point in the life of all faithful Jews when we face the fact that what the Torah says, just isn't so. . . . The Torah is not a science text book, but uses the knowledge of its time to illustrate the various ways in which God, the Creator, interacts with creation. Nor does it happen when we first note the differences between the Torah's use of history and modern academic historical work and journalistic reporting. The Torah's concern is not objective reporting but rather is interested in using historical events to describe the evolving relationship between God and God's people. . ." These things I have learned to embrace about all sacred writings. Guess if that makes me insane, I'm at least in the same boat as many others. ;)-->

So the guy that called me the other night and told me that the only name I need to associate with him is "King" might well be this king you're looking for Roy?

Aha! I see clearly now! To be bestowed with the Great Award of Silliness is some sort of rite of passage. That's just plain silly! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! I'se jest jokin' widdya. Or am I...? Bwaahahahahaha!

I can't start a discussion in the Just Plain Silly forum. Popup says I don't have permission. I can read. I can reply. I just can't start a discussion. Oh...I'll bet I know what it is...you all hate me and want me to go away. NEVER!!!!!!! You'll have to ban me!!!!!!! ;)--> ;)--> :D--> :D-->

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dmiller, Just a thought... Is there an overseeing governmental agency you could contact? Maybe keep a journal of what's happening and how it impacts the lives of the guys...and then turn over a copy to the agency. Again, just a thought.

Well, Oak, my husband is now thinking about taking the vacation pay but not the vacation. Our house in Topeka was burglarized a couple of weeks ago...and a box of my checks were stolen and used all over Topeka. It screwed up my bank account (over $600 worth of checks were written) and we're still in the process of catching up. I hate to be wishy washy...but at this point I'm going to say count us out. Sigh. **************** WhiteDove, My email is CoolWaters@feyaurora.com...if you still wanna meet. ;)--> ************** Somebody's gonna be taking pics at the weenie roast and posting them in the Pic forum...right? :D-->

Forgetting Jesus is certainly at the top of my list. Everything else, imo, was a result of that.

Oak, You're comin' to KC? Still looking for carpoolers? How far is it from KC? Are there any rooms left? Fill me in...'cause hubby said he'd be willing to take his vacation and meet everybody! :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> :D--> Yay!

Roy, I don't respond a whole lot to your posts...because they make me think...often I must think for so long that the posts get buried or something. But I want you to know that your voice here has comforted me, exhorted me, shown me more compassion and all-in-all just made me glad to know you here. GSC has become, for me, a group of friends living life and chatting about it. It wasn't this way at first. At first it was a way to express my anger and hurt over twi. Then it evolved into a healing of that anger and hurt. Then it evolved into a testing of the waters for spiritual paths. Now it's just a great place for me to hang out. Where one "belongs" here changes constantly...until finally you just belong everywhere. Your compassionate voice is needed and wanted. Please stay around. :D-->

Thanks, Pat. I have some ideas I'll be working on. For a name, how about Way of Abuse and Pedophilia, i.e., WAP? Maybe too overboard for some. Otherwise, I love prevailing turd. :D-->

Now Pat you've gone and got my attention. :D--> Looks great! What a wonderful idea. Especially the implication: that many of us are at a point of laughing about it all. Shows great healing. Mind if I make some contributions?

OM, remember that I got into twi at 16yo. Impressionable...to say the least. If you weren't, then kewl. "Dr", to me, carried far more weight than "Rev". I freely admit that the biggest attraction to twi was that it answered the problems in my life...which were numerous...without forcing me to conform to the establishment. Which is, of course, why twi spent most of its efforts "reaching out" to young people. Like with any other cult.

The "Dr" before his name gave me ammunition to refute anyone who tried to tell me I was following a flawed mentality. How would they know? Did they have doctorate degrees? Any degrees at all? No. So they could not have understood the finer details about the bible...like JCING. It gave vp's teachings validation to me...which in turn made me feel foolish for questioning them...which in turn kept me around twi far longer than I knew to stay. I've since learned better...titles do not make a case for knowing anything...or for being right.

Screwed up here...sorry folks.

This is a very interesting subject to me. I was watching a couple of programs this morning that got me thinking. The first program was The Jewish Voice. The second program was Mysteries of the Rosary. On The Jewish Voice a Jewish singer was singing about how the messiah hanging on the tree was God's love. The song moved me to a deeper understanding of the work of the cross. Also on that program was an explanation of the shofar...the trump of God...and how, according to scripture, the sound is the closest thing on earth to what the voice of God sounds like. On Mysteries of the Rosary the priest was focussing upon Mary (this was one program in a series of programs about the rosary). He pointed out that Mary was assumed into heaven and is there. Together, these programs heightened my understanding of spirit. On a radio program I was listening to last night, the preacher was saying that Jesus meets us from out of eternity. God is spirit and we that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. In all the references to spirit that I know of in the bible, it's always the thing that gets things done. In other words, it is the spirit that interacts with mankind. Before spirit was sent to mankind, God walked in the garden, appeared as a burning bush or bright light, worked via animals, Jesus walked on the face of the earth, etc. There were actual physical manifestations of God's presence. Now spirit has been added and is given to mankind...so that each one of us can have a personal relationship all our own...without requirement of human mediation or condition. For what I know...

I had a response all ready to go...and then... All I could think about was how time consuming and energy sucking it is to try to follow such circular thinking. Ya know? For example, that stuff about the author using linguistic hints (or something like that) to give clues about what was being said. WTF????? So it's no longer be like little children, but it's now who can play "What's My Line" the best. --> The nit picking...such a waste of time and effort and brains and sacred breath. I loved what laleo said. Simple. And what about this whole mentality that it wasn't the truth that twi taught that hurt people's lives, but the error...the truth really blessed us all? Um....the really good lies are the ones that mix in enough truth to make it believable....ask Eve...especially ask her if she got blessed by the truth that her deceiver mixed in with the lies. (Song in my head right now: I can see clearly now the rain is gone. No obstacles are in my way. It's gonna be a bright, bright, bright sunshiny day.)

Oak, I'm going to interject my thoughts here...not because I would be considered "christian" or because I consider myself "christian"...but because I know Jesus...probably as intimately (if not more so) than many "christians". As you know, I dumped what passes for "christianity" a couple of years ago once I realized that it was all mental tricks, I decided that this particular trip was "do or die...and if you do, you'll die anyway...but hopefully you'll rise again...and if you don't, then my superiority gives me the right to wish (or actually help...if I'm serving mah kahntree in that thar holy war) you to die." But what about this Jesus thing? Hmmm. Well, no matter what path I walked along, I met this entity known as Jesus. He was to me what is known in other circles as a familiar. He guided me, comforted me, discussed things with me and laughed with me. So is this entity the Jesus of the bible? Who knows? If twi were still my path, I'd think this was that devil spurt false jeezus. But alas, twi doesn't know squat about the real Jesus, so why trust that thinking? Do I believe this Jesus was crucified? Yes. He isn't the only person to have ever been crucified. Do I believe he was raised from the dead? Yes. Being raised from the dead is no longer the miracle it was back in the day. Do I believe he ascended? Yes. He's not the only master that followers speak of ascending. Is he my lord? Yes. In the truest sense of the word...which is bread giver and protector. Does that make me a christian? I dunno. I don't care anymore...for in the end, all paths teach the same thing. To me, the staunch black and white lines drawn in the religious sands are there for those who don't really know for sure...no matter what path one follows. If a person cannot honestly let go of their beliefs and consider an option to their understanding, it is because they know their understanding is flawed. IMO... That said, however, I have learned that it is not wise to shake a person's belief system. The universe has its own ways...one should let the universe work. IMO...

Go to Dr Phil's site. He guarantees potty training in one day. Has had several parents on his show stating that it worked for them. Otherwise...well...boys are always wanting "mama" to clean up after them. LOL ;)-->

Has anyone else seen this movie. We watched it tonight. Disturbing.